Well, looks like you've gone full retard again (and I'm not referring just to this post, but also your attitude lately). Unfortunately, given your history, it's not something you can do.
Good luck with your next account, maybe it will finally be the one.
What did he do to deserve perma ban again?
shut your whore mouth ranged my old friendWell, looks like you've gone full retard again (and I'm not referring just to this post, but also your attitude lately). Unfortunately, given your history, it's not something you can do.
Good luck with your next account, maybe it will finally be the one.
Poor Panos, he was really behaving well this time. A lot better than me, to be honest.
But XyNox pissed him off, just like he did to me four months ago :(
Lesh pls go, you don't even play crpg anymore.
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Tzar
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Hating on ranged shouldn't be a crime.
retardeditalianbundleofsticks banned greek who might not even be able to buy a new game fuckn my old friend
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Tzar
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While I indeed was fed up with Panos' comments about 2hd and ranged, and in general dislike that "clique" of high post count members who openly act completely biased, insulting and discriminating against ranged focused members, I think a permaban is too much for this outburst of full retardness. I mean, it's Panos, if you read his name backwards it says "I just went full retard", what can you expect from him?
How about you give him the chance to get the permaban lifted by writing an essay about why ranged is important for the game, why it is important to keep ranged players motivated, and about how everyone is free to enjoy the game the way he wants to?
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Support me in this, folks! :mrgreen:
This is drama. Drama belongs in the diplomacy forum.
Please move thread.
Well, looks like you've gone full retard again (and I'm not referring just to this post, but also your attitude lately). Unfortunately, given your history, it's not something you can do.
Good luck with your next account, maybe it will finally be the one.
I appreciate your administrative measures cmp but if I may interject, I did not take any offence by him and there is no demand for punishing Panos on my behalf. I took it merely as a joke.
Fuma chill, knowing Cmp's mercy if you keep on like that you're the next on the list.
Wait, panos was permbanned for typing "shut your whore mouth ranged cunt" ?
I appreciate your administrative measures cmp but if I may interject, I did not take any offence by him and there is no demand for punishing Panos on my behalf. I took it merely as a joke.
Well, looks like you've gone full retard again (and I'm not referring just to this post, but also your attitude lately). Unfortunately, given your history, it's not something you can do.
Good luck with your next account, maybe it will finally be the one.
Maybe I should have bolded this part in the original post, because it seems a lot of people are missing it:
When you have been permabanned several times you get no leeway. If you think that's unfair, feel free to not apply it in your community.
Dude, I`m with you, I believe that Paul AND Tydeus are the most useless devs, they changed the polearm animations, and yet they didnt touch the lolstab.
But, I really need to spend some time in game before I start pointing fingers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zv00vm_TUs
Look at the fucking animations Zlisch you dumb fuck, look how much does the polearm nudge extends, and then look how far the 1h and the overhead nudge extends.(click to show/hide)
Are you really that stupid??
You compare a 142 lenght weapon with a 70 one??
Next ones are the Italians.
Italian humor meh
Heil Germonies, I made a banner, to thank you and Angela Merkel for all the help that you gave to Greece.
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No need to thank me.
Maybe I should have bolded this part in the original post, because it seems a lot of people are missing it:
That particular line isn't an offense at all. Perm ban him for the first teamkill he does if you like, but IMO this is not right.This i guess. Shame he is a troll but engaged in community (vide achievments and stuff) and i thought he knows his borders this time. I say unban in game and mute on forum in worst case.
Besides, Panos seems to be the only player getting ingame punishment for forum misbehavior.
Attitude? Wat? I mean I dont get it. You permaban Panos, a dude who just swears alot and you just let bad players like Mion for example roam around. A player who fabricates evidence to get people banned, makes pointless banrequests, provokes, griefs and occasionally acts racist? Not to mention some other players. And you keep permabanning Panos? This is a joke right? -.-
What's about that Mion guy actually? What did he do wrong?Mion is the type of player who will intentionally shoot and bump their teammate (if the guy looks new), then when the teammate hits back Mion will take screenshots and banthread him.
Also Panos was more contributing to this community than detroying it, even if he pissed many people off. The ban was just unnecessary.
His past history should not come into play for a new account
Yes i would find it great panos essay about "why ranged is important part of CRPG" for 3000 words ! PLease Please please devs !!
It comes into play after the second permaban.
To you and most people he's just a funny troll, to those of us who spent countless hours dealing with his bullshit he's way more than that. Easy to judge when you don't know/remember most of the facts.
What was an excuse?
Mion is the type of player who will intentionally shoot and bump their teammate (if the guy looks new), then when the teammate hits back Mion will take screenshots and banthread him.
Well it's true that Panos' posts are/were getting reported quite often and that forces the moderation team to take a look at them and consider whether the reports are valid or not.
Zlisch, do you realize you could just replace Mion with your own name?Riddaren, I may teamkill (though I've pretty much purely done it at the end of the round, accidentally, or to a friend for quite some time now), I may occasionally banpoll/kickpoll a friend or someone legitimately breaking the rules and pissing me off enough to care, but unlike Mion I never have and never will frame someone, or grief someone and then banthread them if they respond, so no, you can't replace my name with Mions. And I'm not gonna lie, I've been quite rude to you and others without proper ground, but I would never do any of the disgusting shit that Mion does.
What a blunder...
I've seen Zlisch behave bad on EU_4 for as long as I remember. Teamhitting, teamkilling, kick and ban polling for no reason.
I have not seen any other player behave as bad as he has. Still he gets away with it, for some reason.
Panos may not pick his words as well as Zlisch but he is a nice guy who have also contributed to the community.
Riddaren, I may teamkill (though I've pretty much purely done it at the end of the round, accidentally, or to a friend for quite some time now), I may occasionally banpoll/kickpoll a friend or someone legitimately breaking the rules and pissing me off enough to care, but unlike Mion I never have and never will frame someone, or grief someone and then banthread them if they respond, so no, you can't replace my name with Mions. And I'm not gonna lie, I've been quite rude to you and others without proper ground, but I would never do any of the disgusting shit that Mion does.
And I fully agree on your description of Panos (besides me not exactly putting my words all that well), but I still understand cmps reaction.
No, you're not getting that right (I'm not even sure where you're getting that at all). You could say it's what made me go over his posting history, but that's about it.
Still, on the other hand, nobody would think you'd lose your face if you'd revert the permaban. Panos acted emotionally all the time, and now did you for the first time, and nobody will charge you with that. If we all calm down until tomorrow, no harm will have been done.
I can't think of anything more degrading than an adult having to write an essay for some geeks in order to play a computer game because he 'misbehaved'. Still can't believe people have actually wrote those in the past.I think your pride have rather weak base if it can fall so easly. When face some internet community game.
If it was me, I would rather stay banned but still be able to look at myself in the mirror with my pride intact.
banning people in-game for something they say on the forum is not something we do very often.
No, you're not getting that right (I'm not even sure where you're getting that at all). You could say it's what made me go over his posting history, but that's about it.
you shouldn't do that at all.
its just retarded and have no sence
Well, I'm only hearing positive stuff about his late behavior from everyone.
It comes into play after the second permaban.
To you and most people he's just a funny troll, to those of us who spent countless hours dealing with his bullshit he's way more than that. Easy to judge when you don't know/remember most of the facts.
Will you please break it down for us once and for all with all the facts, since we don't have all the facts as you say and I promise I myself I'll never ask another question about Panos ever again.
look cmpx i just said baning someone in game because forum troling or whatever for me is bullshit!!!!!
Sorry, but no. I've wasted enough time with him already and I'm certainly not gonna do it a second time to dig some old IRC logs and forum posts because you asked.
You're gonna have to take my word for it, and if you can't, that's not really my problem.
This is bullshit:
XYZ trolls on forum -> XYZ gets permabanned
This is not bullshit:
XYZ gets permabanned -> XYZ's permaban gets removed on condition that he behaves nice on the forum and in-game -> XYZ doesn't behave nice on the forum -> XYZ's ban gets restored
If you fail to see why those two cases are very different, again, that's not really my problem.
This is bullshit:
XYZ trolls on forum -> XYZ gets permabanned
This is not bullshit:
XYZ gets permabanned -> XYZ's permaban gets removed on condition that he behaves nice on the forum and in-game -> XYZ doesn't behave nice on the forum -> XYZ's ban gets restored
If you fail to see why those two cases are very different, again, that's not really my problem.
Sorry, but no. I've wasted enough time with him already and I'm certainly not gonna do it a second time to dig some old IRC logs and forum posts because you asked.
You're gonna have to take my word for it, and if you can't, that's not really my problem.
i understand what are you talk about....but bann on forum should't have effect in game.
i understand what are you talk about....but bann on forum should't have effect in game.
guys relax, warband is only 10 eurobucks...
lol benkei, no humor when it concerns panos?Those kind of jokes are exactly a huge part of the problem. Everyone is so used to making fun about Panos being banned that everyone forgets how he might feel about being banned for such a minor thing after being probably one of the most helpful people in the whole community for quite some time now.
Not really sure what to say. I have a hard time remembering any incidents before today on this specific account and that wasn't even close to crpg-forum "full retardness". I've seen worse, way worse things being simply ignored.
About those reported posts: Those are Panos-posts and he is polarizing inside this community like nobody else, that should be kept in mind when reacting on those reports.
It seems that the good work Panos did lately is completely ignored. Maybe on purpose or maybe cuz devs aren't as connected to the community as they used to be before MBG.
He organized events, he put a lot of effort into the armour-thread, he came up with the Achievements, he paid his own Gold for headhunting, he gave away loompoints for free, he keeps crpg going for a lot of veterans. Whenever he came up with some idea like those above, the population on EU1 grew, you saw people suddenly playing a bit who you didn't see for weeks.
Things like these have to count for something, one might think. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to count for shit. And that is more disappointing than the ban itself. I am disappointed.
It should have been since forever
Since when is "shut your whore mouth ranged my old friend " good enough reason for permaban?
It should have been since forever
Seriously guys, lots of people vomiting over other guys here and insulting and degrading the devs team and the others crpg players. loosing the minimum respect shall be permmabannable.
And If I am a good guy doing lots of good things for everybody, community. It doesnt allow me to say shit when I feel the I want to.
Do you imagine chadz posting patch notes saying:
Here you have the patch notes you bunch of retards, now pick a fucking bow and headshot those 2handers whores, you usesless community. Also greeks and spanish fuck of and go to the rubbish to get you daily menu...
:rolleyes:
Panos put a lot of himself in improving community.
I think he did great job.
Donated lots of his stuff/looms/gold to new players.
Helped them countless times on server.
Created new clan.
Organized some events.
Supported actions to get new stuff in mod and so on...
He surely did more than some frustrated guy who is playing god around and ban players.
Since when is "shut your whore mouth ranged my old friend " good enough reason for permaban?
Cmp stop being retard dude, you proved your point long time ago...
Devs can have some shockingly bad regard for their players too, just check certain guys post histories. If you want respect from the community, treat the community with respect first. Not the other way around. This is supposed to be a professional dev team at some point. People already paid money to help fund their next game, and if they think people will suddenly forget the past when their next game comes they are very naive. Devs and community representatives set the stage we play on, they should have some better attitudes if they want the same from even the likes of Panos
About Panos, its cmp's judgement imo but if it were my choice I wouldn't have banned him yet eventhough if you asked me that several months ago I would have thought differently. CMP made it clear Panos was on thin ice since he came back
Anyway this is just a huge smokescreen to divert attention away from today's fail patch :p
Devs can have some shockingly bad regard for their players too, just check certain guys post histories. If you want respect from the community, treat the community with respect first. Not the other way around. This is supposed to be a professional dev team at some point. People already paid money to help fund their next game, and if they think people will suddenly forget the past when their next game comes they are very naive. Devs and community representatives set the stage we play on, they should have some better attitudes if they want the same from even the likes of Panos
About Panos, its cmp's judgement imo but if it were my choice I wouldn't have banned him yet eventhough if you asked me that several months ago I would have thought differently. CMP made it clear Panos was on thin ice since he came back
Anyway this is just a huge smokescreen to divert attention away from today's fail patch :p
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Yeah, I think first of all people should stop insulting the devs and cmp in special. I don't think that those heavy insults against cmp will bring Panos back. If anything, the opposite will happen, and only displays what kind of people supports Panos.
Stay calm, stay friendly, stay mature.
Stop it, I think u helped enough...
Panos did harass me in game for a long time. Incessant kicking, running around in circles hitting me with his fist, etc. I don't think this was aimed at me personally. I just think he liked to annoy people.
I think it was well deserved and that it lasts for good this time.
Let's see if the "+" from your 10-rules-topic will exceed the "-" from this post :wink:
The game isn't coming, afaik. If this isn't true, I blame Smoothrich.
Yes. Stating facts surely deserves "-". Fire away!
Yeah, I think first of all people should stop insulting the devs and cmp in special. I don't think that those heavy insults against cmp will bring Panos back. If anything, the opposite will happen, and only displays what kind of people supports Panos.
Don't worry, insults from random people do nothing at all. There's only one person who can bring Panos back, and that is Panos.
This is all interesting, as we all feel very strongly for Panos here. It's a sign we are a thight knit community, but also that cRPG is pure heroin. It's like taking away the daily dose(s) from a fellow junkie. You might like him or not, he is a total bastard (like the rest of us) but our human compassion translates very easy to Imagine A World Without cRPG!
The human part in me says unban Panos. But on the other hand, it's not a very good sign to the rest to let him slip. Both those that are permabanned, perhaps for lesser things than what Panos have done, and those that will be. It could potentially create a very nasty precedence.
On the other hand, the mod is small, the community is tight, and everyone knows Panos and his case. I doubt the consequences of an unban would be that huge. What I always liked about him was that he was funny and gave from himself, good or bad. (Comparing to others who sometimes manages to destroy the server and mood without breaking any rules..)
Now to the practicals, if in a hypotethical situation cmp asked me to unban Panos on the condition that I would have to deal with all Panos matters in the future, I'd say no way. For the admins and devs, all that stuff translates into lots of extra WORK, for just one player to have fun and be himself. I've never timed it, but an average ban probably takes about 15mins to 1 hour of dealing with complaints, proof, back and forth. And lots of interruptions. If it's a drama thing it can go on for days.. :rolleyes:
I don't personally know the detailed drama/ban/workload history of Panos, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was rather heavy. Still, if I was cmp, I'd asked the admins (not me btw) if anyone is willing to take responsibility for an unban of Panos, and all future Panos matters. Perhaps that is a solution? :)
So I guess if he does something which (in your eyes) makes up for what he has done, amuses you or touches your heart deeplay so that you lose a single, manly tear, there are chances for him to come back?All he ment was "...if he buys a new key, I might not ban him straight away again."
Now that's a start at least :mrgreen:
Can we just send some money for Panos, for new game? ( I can give him 1-2 euro ) I don`t now him well, but I like how he do on strat battles, he dont do a shit, I want him back. For me he is a nice guy, he is just plays role of a rude guy.
Maybe I should have bolded this part in the original post, because it seems a lot of people are missing it:
When you have been permabanned several times you get no leeway. If you think that's unfair, feel free to not apply it in your community.
So, its up to admins now to estimate people's "attitude in general"? This is the second time you are banning him for reasons no one else ever got banned.
I think you forgot to mention that no one else ever racked up that many permabans.
Ok, but still, Panos is permabanned for something he did on the forums, not in game, in the worst
case permamute him here, but let him play.
Getting permabanned for something you wrote on the forums is ridicolous, it shouldn't matter what you may have done in the past, In-game actions are all that matters, you should be punished with a permaban only when you keep teamhitting/teamkilling(on purpose), glitching, leeching, or double respawning ( which is glitching imo).
I don't know which kind of deal Panos had with the admins this time, but if this deal implicated that Panos could be permabanned if he misbehaved on the forums, well, i think this deal doesn't make sense, you could have permabanned his forum account in the first place, it would have made more sense than allowing him to come back at those conditions.
"Also, to clear up some concerns: banning people in-game for something they say on the forum is not something we do very often"
Forums and in-game "behaviour"/actions should be always considered as two completely different things, without exceptions.
This is bullshit:
XYZ trolls on forum -> XYZ gets permabanned
This is not bullshit:
XYZ gets permabanned -> XYZ's permaban gets removed on condition that he behaves nice on the forum and in-game -> XYZ doesn't behave nice on the forum -> XYZ's ban gets restored
If you fail to see why those two cases are very different, again, that's not really my problem.
Yes, getting a permaban removed implies that you have to behave on forums as well. If you think that's unreasonable, I really don't understand what goes through your mind.
In my book it was just a misunderstanding and I am sure if you would unban Panos he would know better from now on.
I see your point, but I disagree with it. I think when you get this kind of chance you should be held up to a much higher standard (especially when it's the second time).i would vouch, but if he would fail i would most likely find him and take away all german money.
I would say that all evidence suggests otherwise.
Also, that's very easy to say because you don't have to deal with it when it happens. I wonder how many people would vouch for him if there were actual consequences.
Also, that's very easy to say because you don't have to deal with it when it happens. I wonder how many people would vouch for him if there were actual consequences.Would be fun I guess if he could get unbanned providing 3 people agreed to be permabanned if Panos got permad again. :D
I wonder how many people would vouch for him if there were actual consequences.
More proof that this maybe the worst community ever in a game...
CMP i dont think you quailified for this job man maybe its time for a break...
Go out have some fun find a lady and party hard,your decision making is getting worst and worst...
A lot of people in here need to find a true life..
Πανο τα λέμε ελπίζω να χαίρεσαι με όλο το σκηνικό .Σ'αγαπω μην το ξεχασεις ποτε
Love and kisses to all
More proof that this maybe the worst community ever in a game...
CMP i dont think you quailified for this job man maybe its time for a break...
Go out have some fun find a lady and party hard,your decision making is getting worst and worst...
A lot of people in here need to find a true life..
Πανο τα λέμε ελπίζω να χαίρεσαι με όλο το σκηνικό .Σ'αγαπω μην το ξεχασεις ποτε
Love and kisses to all
My opinion towards the developers of the game, specially this cool individual who believes himself to be the latest fashion in smart comments, has lately shifted from this:
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To this:
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I'd vouch for him any day.
I would be willing to put my account up for permaban also if he fucks up again, I know that doesn't stand foe much and probably wont happen but I'd do that in a heartbeat,
CMP i dont think you quailified for this job man maybe its time for a break...
More proof that this maybe the worst community ever in a game...
Count me in as third. I come from a place where people regularly fuck up and are forgiven every damn time, because we are that (fucked up) kind of people. It's all about mentality. And not just that, I don't believe that relations between people should be done in such (rigid) manner. Relations between humans need to be flexible, if we weren't like that we wouldn't talk to each other because of all the bad things we did in the past.
I'm not like Panos, but I like his irrational side. That makes him different. I'm willing to accept him like that. Passion he has shown for this community, even if negative at times means more to me than this account and everything that goes with it. I'll gladly sacrifice it any day for some "flawed" dude like Panos, even if that makes me completely irrational person.
Then help us improve it.. you know what you have to do.
Count me in as third. I come from a place where people regularly fuck up and are forgiven every damn time, because we are that (fucked up) kind of people. It's all about mentality. And not just that, I don't believe that relations between people should be done in such (rigid) manner. Relations between humans need to be flexible, if we weren't like that we wouldn't talk to each other because of all the bad things we did in the past.
I'm not like Panos, but I like his irrational side. That makes him different. I'm willing to accept him like that. Passion he has shown for this community, even if negative at times means more to me than this account and everything that goes with it. I'll gladly sacrifice it any day for some "flawed" dude like Panos, even if that makes me completely irrational person.
Count me in as third. I come from a place where people regularly fuck up and are forgiven every damn time, because we are that (fucked up) kind of people. It's all about mentality. And not just that, I don't believe that relations between people should be done in such (rigid) manner. Relations between humans need to be flexible, if we weren't like that we wouldn't talk to each other because of all the bad things we did in the past.
I'm not like Panos, but I like his irrational side. That makes him different. I'm willing to accept him like that. Passion he has shown for this community, even if negative at times means more to me than this account and everything that goes with it. I'll gladly sacrifice it any day for some "flawed" dude like Panos, even if that makes me completely irrational person.
If we are all misunderstanding the reason he was banned... then how about we start getting reasons when members of the community are permanently removed. The same happened to badplayer recently; granted he has a far worse reputation but he was permabanned and when someone asked why... the thread got locked down and cmp said it wasnt something that would be discussed publicly.
badplayer has been permabanned by Meow a year ago for griefing with RL pics and stuff like that. The thread you mention was created after yet another of his multiaccounts was discovered and banned.
Please get your facts straight next time.
-> Posts on internet forum about people having to get a life
What are you doing here tard, I doubt you have even a slightest bit of life.
It's not my problem if people worry about stuff that doesn't concern them. Also, it might be wise to just ask before making unfounded accusations.
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So you are insulting me because i suggest that some people are addicted-tired resulting to poor decision making?
Then help us improve it.. you know what you have to do.
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I feel a bit awkward about this thread now.
It was supposed to be a "Remember Panos and stuff" thread, not "cmp is wrong" thread.
Many people around here (including me) will for sure miss Panos, but cmp's decision was clear and legit imo.
Some people should read why exactly Panos got banned before making accusations.
Okay, clutching ny straw now:
The point of telling people to behave is to not offend other people by misbehaving. Since Panos did not offend Xynox, it was no misbehaving, at least none of the sort where damage had been done.
That way he was close to crossing the border, but did not. Which means that a warning shot could be adequate, e.g. a temporary ban, forum mute, essay, whatever.
I guess it would be a nice compromise to settle this unpleasant matter now...
I didn't make any accusations, I just said that your resistance to openness is likely to be interpreted poorly by many. It would be far better for the community if you could just give an honest answer when someone asks "why was this person banned?"
So your answer is more insults?
Dont you have any argument to make about how maybe some people are tired or addicted resulting to bad decision making?
Please get your facts straight next time.
The thing is, nobody asked "why was this person banned?". badplayer pretended to, but he knew the answer already and he was just trying to troll.
Thread was locked before we could. Locking it so soon seemed to suggest, at least to me, "don't bring this up again."
So why is Panos banned? Cause he shit talked a ranged player? You'd have to ban 95% of crpg if shit talking ranged was against the rules.
Huh, I didn't know that troll threads are supposed to stay open until the entire forum population has had the chance to ask what was going on. But I suppose you have a point, since there is no other way you could have contacted me. Right?
Read the thread, it's stated quite clearly a few pages ago.
At least do something to that fella - kinda bit of a piss take if he can get away with it with nothing shy of a mute
I read all your posts in this thread. There really is no clear answer. The best I can get is "He insulted someone on the forums and since he has a ban history we permad him". If that is the case then... well that is ridiculous. Have you ever poked your head into the diplomacy section of the forums? People insult each other all the damn time and in far more serious and offensive ways than Panos calling someone a range my old friend. Also, the people who shit talk in diplomacy frequently get forum mutes, not ingame bans. If they are abusive in game then they might see some actual bans but it takes a lot of effort to get ban for being an asshole in game... just ask spookisland.
What can I say, you are very bad at reading...
http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/panos-permabanned-again/msg814984/#msg814984
??? :lol:
Edit: I'm trying to understand if I put up a wrong link, because there's no way you could have misunderstood my post that badly.
So he was mean in IRC and got ban from forums and crpg? I guess I would have to see what he said in IRC, but going by his actions on the forums lately he is pretty much a saint and generally awesome contributor to the well-being of the community compared to just about anyone else. Mayhaps you shoulda just ban him from IRC and let him continue his good works on the forums.Still doesn't get it... :cry:
Take a break cmp i really believe you need itcmp doesn't even play cRPG anymore, so gg on being retarded.
Oh, it looks like you didn't read the quoted posts. We were talking about his previous bans.
Except that I did and you responded to the quoted messages as I already talked about.
Would it be so hard to just say why you banned him? straight up without any BS or misdirection or trollyness? Just a "Panos has a long history and his recent actions doing "______" resulted in me restoring his permaban"
Would it be so hard to just say why you banned him? straight up without any BS or misdirection or trollyness? Just a "Panos has a long history and his recent actions doing "______" resulted in me restoring his permaban"Cmp and Panos had come to an agreement were if he acted like shit on the forum or ingame he'd be permabanned, that post made Cmp look at Panos posting history of the last week, Cmp banned him for acting like shit on the forum, is it that fucking hard to understand?
Democracy? Ha
At least do something to that fella - kinda bit of a piss take if he can get away with it with nothing shy of a mute
otherwise it's having one rule for one and another for others.
Even so to new players who do not know Panos' history it comes across as a bit 'iffy'. If i was a new player i wouldn't feel safe in playing knowing if i copied a player saying one thing and he got away with it would i? Thus leading to me not playing it. Steam summer sales will be up soon (i believe they're in July) and i would really enjoy bigger servers again but seeing shit like this....i dunno.
I do infact. My argument is simply that nobody would do it significantly better than CMP. Im not implying that cmp does flawless decisions, but rather than mostly nobody in this community is capable of doing his job better than he is at the current state. And taking someone outside of this community and dragging him to the decisionmaking department would backfire.
I'd vouch for him any day.
I would be willing to put my account up for permaban also if he fucks up again, I know that doesn't stand foe much and probably wont happen but I'd do that in a heartbeat,
Come on dude you kiss his ass to much..
Take a break..
Do you feel nice kissing the ass of the power??
Come on dude you kiss his ass to much..You definately went full retard now son. :D That was litterally the first post ever I said anything even remotely good about cmp and that wasnt even the point. The point was that I couldnt think of anybody else in this community, who is qualified enough to make gamechanging decisions. Jokes on me for even trying to explain you something like a descent humanbeing......
Take a break..
Do you feel nice kissing the ass of the power??
Proposal for devs
Exchange of prisoners: instead Panos, ban Gnjus :twisted: A much greater benefit for you :)
May he rest in RIP.
Come on dude you kiss his ass to much..
Take a break..
Do you feel nice kissing the ass of the power??
Dream on, scumbag. Maybe if you learned some proper English and somehow got yourself some extra IQ you could provoke me into going berserk like Panos and getting banned but until that happens you better shut your polished mug. I'd insult you properly but you do it much better on your own, simply by posting. :wink:
Speaking of bans - how are your banned slaves doing these days ? Enjoying other games ?
Dream on, scumbag. Maybe if you learned some proper English and somehow got yourself some extra IQ you could provoke me into going berserk like Panos and getting banned but until that happens you better shut your polished mug. I'd insult you properly but you do it much better on your own, simply by posting. :wink:
Speaking of bans - how are your banned slaves doing these days ? Enjoying other games ?
Hey, Gnjus, do you know that it means when man gets bald on the front of his head? It means that he thinks. Do you know that it means when man gets bald on the back of his head? It means that he is good in bed. And do you know that it means when man gets bald on both front and back of his head? I am sure you do know that because it is your case. It means that he thinks that he is good in bed :wink:
Hey, Gnjus, do you know that it means when man gets bald on the front of his head? It means that he thinks. Do you know that it means when man gets bald on the back of his head? It means that he is good in bed. And do you know that it means when man gets bald on both front and back of his head? I am sure you do know that because it is your case. It means that he thinks that he is good in bed :wink:
Hey, Gnjus, do you know that it means when man gets bald on the front of his head? It means that he thinks. Do you know that it means when man gets bald on the back of his head? It means that he is good in bed. And do you know that it means when man gets bald on both front and back of his head? I am sure you do know that because it is your case. It means that he thinks that he is good in bed :wink:Pretty funny , but however not even close to being relevant.
Why does future Panoses haircut look like Panoses moms haircut?(click to show/hide)
Why does future Panoses haircut look like Panoses moms haircut?
Hey, Gnjus, do you know that it means when man gets bald on the front of his head? It means that he thinks. Do you know that it means when man gets bald on the back of his head? It means that he is good in bed. And do you know that it means when man gets bald on both front and back of his head? I am sure you do know that because it is your case. It means that he thinks that he is good in bed :wink:
Hey, Gnjus, do you know that it means when man gets bald on the front of his head? It means that he thinks. Do you know that it means when man gets bald on the back of his head? It means that he is good in bed. And do you know that it means when man gets bald on both front and back of his head? I am sure you do know that because it is your case. It means that he thinks that he is good in bed :wink:
To be honest, I just find this whole business an inmense pile of bullshit. Panos is a normal person, yes, a normal guy - one that I respect just as any other. It's really depressing how expressing his opinions has gotten him banned on several, if not all, ocassions.
Some people here think they are forum heroes, kings of trolling and charming comedians or whatever. The truth is I don't find anything of this funny at all. You've all taken a liking to making fun of Panos, provoking him, and even banning him for nothing.
Tell you what, you guys aren't the new heroes, you are childish at best.
Is there any way one of us forum members can contact Panos? Does someone know a way/adress/anything?
Banning Panos again was a complete bullshit.
When you look at the community you will see retarded people deserves to get banned more than Panos ever, he may be a troll in the past but he was changed. Gameplay made him rage on forums but I am sure everyone bitched about how 2h lolstab is retarded and damage of the damn arrows.Also if even he insulted someone on forums no one would care about that, its the internet and we re in 2013.You guys even do not ban chocolate chip cookie Jokes, also giving a second chance to even that asshole called Hemmor. He made zillions of teamkills, abuse polls , racist comments . And if he deserved a second chance, Panos deserves a 4th chance. You can see me insulting him in the past but i changed, i found out how things works on internet.I learned how to counter Panos.In last few months he helped newbies, been good to Turks -even kapis- . He had a Greek love aura , but when it comes to the easy mode gameplay, he just cant hold himself. Just bring him back cmp, imo you wont regret it. FREE PANOS!
Sorry for the broken parts of my English.Love,
Kratos
disgusting.
Keep Panos banned.
Sorry for the broken parts of my English.Love,
prps did u really ned to add gay pride from our city :mrgreen:
LEAVE PANOS ALONE! FREE PANOS!
This is such a small community that admins have different special deals and rules for certain individuals, this is the biggest problem, same with server rules, ban request rules etc. nothing is written down and people are free to interpret rules in their own way.This. Rules are diferent for each individual of this game. Its what i have gathered in 3 years playing this. Some guys just have no law in this game. I have seen it so many times.. A guy getting kicked/banned for stupid things while others (admin friends usually) just will do whatever they feel like. Many of those are the ones revenging team hitting.. which is the lamest thing ever, yet i have seen many players banned for it in all these years and others doing it at will... crpg classes you know.
Just hope this trend will change with the new game and the rules and regulations both ingame and in forums will be clear and written down for all to see so we will have no "unfair", "unclear" bans and decisions.
Get a community manager asap pl0x!
Cmp banned panos. After chadz moved to Elsweyr and espu to Elysium, cmp alone became the law or the "headmin" as you call it. I doubt that he will ban himself. Basic logic.
Cmp banned panos. After chadz moved to Elsweyr and espu to Elysium, cmp alone became the law or the "headmin" as you call it. I doubt that he will ban himself. Basic logic.
wait ..wait wait , what are chadz and espu doing there?(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
... your timing is horrible
butthurt much?
ye i eated chilly beans :lol:
baš eated ili? :mrgreen:
learn 2 engrish slav!
WHat, who the hell is panos , where the fuck am i
i dont even try to learn it..... have some others things on my mind to do..... like how i will bang my wife when i come home, smoke a joint,drink a beer, play with daughter, eat some lamb,make some music.....
and you just learn it how much as you can cause u will need it. i have everything i want in my life...and you? 8-)
fuck i dont have it yet...need second car and Jomox XBase 888 drum synthesizer
No, I still need to acquire a Japanese sex slave.
blah...they sound like kids when have sex.... cant listen to that.... pick something else
so you believe everything u see in porn?you mean porn is not based on real llife?
He has a point, it's a cultural thing. Japanese men have a thing for women crying and being uncomfortable and in pain (or pretending to be) during sex, for some reason. When you fuck your gf, does she usually moan, scream, grunt or pant in pleasure? Omg, it's almost as if porn was tailored to provoke a sexual response by evoking stuff people find sexually pleasing. This happens to differ from culture to culture.
so you believe everything u see in porn?
dont tell me you didnt fuck japanese girl??
Kaoklai is on minusing spree again btw...
[T]ake cover!
Kaoklai is on minusing spree again btw...
[T]ake cover!
No, i fucked a Phillipino girl, that's the only asian I fucked, japanese or korean is still on my list.
Kaoklai is on minusing spree again btw...
[T]ake cover!
lol who is that guyIt's the guy who gave you 30 infamy of your 34. :mrgreen:
... When you fuck your gf, does she usually moan, scream, grunt or pant in pleasure? Omg, it's almost as if porn was tailored to provoke a sexual response by evoking stuff people find sexually pleasing. This happens to differ from culture to culture.
are you sure she/he was she ? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Does it matter :mrgreen: