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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Nordwolf on June 27, 2013, 01:58:56 pm
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There is a combination you can't normally counter - nudge+kick+hit
unsuccessfull nudge won't really be a problem for the one nudging, so it's just a forgiving way to unforgively hit opponent.
Either remove nudge (yeah, I don't really like it) or make it impossible to kick after it a short while.
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Next patch I put kick on the nudge cooldown timer. That means you can't kick after a nudge.
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Nudge should be disabled until a counter is added, or at least increase/add the cooldown time between Kick and nudge.
What is really annoying, is the retards who respec into 1h W/O shield just to abuse that shit.
Devs, what the fuck is wrong with you??
I guess Paul is occupied doing nothing else, but making stupid comments all over the forum, insulting people, and trying to act like a smartass.
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Sorry but I didn't see that.
That post was 18th of June though, sooo..... looking forward to the patch
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And some Two handers/polearms players just take a one handed weapon, nudge, switch weapon, kick, hit...
Do you, devs play enough your mod to realize how it's abused ?
at least read the forum... or give the job to people who really care about the mod
End of QQ
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I don't see what the point of nudge is there's already enough bullshit bump stuns from cav. Why was polestun removed & kick nerfed then they add a new cheapo stun attack?
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I say keep it :)
It´s just a matter of avoiding them or kick em, when they start gettin all up in your face :lol:
But the cooldown on kick after nugde seems like a good fix to avoid letting people combo you for free hits
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Nudge should share cooldown with kick
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Its because its new and people dont like new things, but i also do believe Nudge is a little Op atm, its very easy to spam it over and over again. But saying that, people are starting to find out a way to counter it, i've encountered a lot of people kicking and nudging back, if someone is up in your face and they ahve a 1h, you know they are going to nudge you, just kick.
But i believe a small nerf and time for people to get used to it being part of the game should do. It a very cool concept but i thiink it would be a good idea to remove it until all classes have it
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Its because its new and people dont like new things, but i also do believe Nudge is a little Op atm, its very easy to spam it over and over again. But saying that, people are starting to find out a way to counter it, i've encountered a lot of people kicking and nudging back, if someone is up in your face and they ahve a 1h, you know they are going to nudge you, just kick.
But i believe a small nerf and time for people to get used to it being part of the game should do. It a very cool concept but i thiink it would be a good idea to remove it until all classes have it
You retard, if you kick someone and he nudge you, you get knocked down.
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You retard, if you kick someone and he nudge you, you get knocked down.
Kick out ranges nudge
and also if you strafe side to side, its incredibly difficult to land the nudge, most people just backpedal these days (which im guilty of as well)
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Nudge is horribly implemented. As I called it earlier, its a gimmick that would be better placed in some brogamer xbox game
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I don't even get what is so horrible about the nudge-kick combo, when the nudge itself allows you a free unblockable hit unless you are bad or extremely slow. Also, you can chamberkick the follow up kick you noobs and pwn the nudgemy old friend. Get nudged, hit your kick button -> profit.
The real problem is that you can hold an attack, walk up to someone and nudge is just stupid implementation and this makes it clearly something without a counter. Held hit supresses you and forces you to just take the nudge in the face. Strudog don't flatter yourself, nudging is not hard and has no counter. A competent 1h without shield cannot lose in a 1 vs 1. I have nudged some myself and laughed at those desperate fuckers trying to kick me and get knocked on their ass. Even backpedallers get knocked on their ass if they hold an attack.
Only jumping works as somewhat of a counter, as jumping seems to make you impossible to nudge. Nudge is instant though so you have to do an anticipatory jump, which means Mr. Nudgemy old friend can just wait until you have jumped and nudge you while jump is on cooldown.
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Nudge isn't even that bad...its like a somewhat faster kick with shorter range.
If you're up in someone's face, expect to get punched. I don't get it.
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Just remove nudge from the game.
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nudges are a nice addition to the game's depth and I'm convinced they will blend in just fine once some issues have been ironed out
oh and you can chamber those kicks even if you got hit by a nudge (you just have to time them right)
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wait are you suggesting to remove nudge since it's OP for the moment, fix it, and then put it back again, fixed? ARE YOU CRAZY? YOU THINK WE LOSE TIME WITH COMMON SENSE HERE?
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I don't even get what is so horrible about the nudge-kick combo, when the nudge itself allows you a free unblockable hit unless you are bad or extremely slow. Also, you can chamberkick the follow up kick you noobs and pwn the nudgemy old friend. Get nudged, hit your kick button -> profit.
The real problem is that you can hold an attack, walk up to someone and nudge is just stupid implementation and this makes it clearly something without a counter. Held hit supresses you and forces you to just take the nudge in the face. Strudog don't flatter yourself, nudging is not hard and has no counter. A competent 1h without shield cannot lose in a 1 vs 1. I have nudged some myself and laughed at those desperate fuckers trying to kick me and get knocked on their ass. Even backpedallers get knocked on their ass if they hold an attack.
Only jumping works as somewhat of a counter, as jumping seems to make you impossible to nudge. Nudge is instant though so you have to do an anticipatory jump, which means Mr. Nudgemy old friend can just wait until you have jumped and nudge you while jump is on cooldown.
Did you ever read what i said?, i never said that i was amazing or said that it was hard to do, all i did was just outline a few ways to counter the nudge, and i never said i was pro at doing these things.
It also believe it is OP and that it needs a nerf quickly, but for people to go OMG ITS SO OP REMOVE IT, is just plain stupid.
just give it time for it to be adapted into something that will give the game so much more depth.
PLus i never use the Nudge + Kick + hit combo as i leave it up to the nudge to do all the work, and it dose'nt work 100% of the time
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Kick out ranges nudge
Maybe he does, but the outranging range is also the "easy to dodge" range.
There's a safe zone to kick, and in this one, nudge is king.
I kicked a 1h coming to me, saw the animation started, then got nudged, wich is faster, stopped my animation, in addition to stunning me for a good bit.
On the paper kick may outrange nudge, but effectively, thanks to the animation, you can't kick a nudger before he nudges you. And once he does, AND you've failed your kick, you can't counter kick (not sure if there's a timer for kick, even after a fail kick, but i think so), thus, a free hit...
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wait are you suggesting to remove nudge since it's OP for the moment, fix it, and then put it back again, fixed? ARE YOU CRAZY? YOU THINK WE LOSE TIME WITH COMMON SENSE HERE?
Awwww, look at those cute fishes in your signature
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Frankly I am disgusted on how the devs handled this. In other games and mods when something broken is added it takes at most a few days to roll back the patch or fix it. Testing things on your players instead of Beta testers is absurd.
It was being exploited in AUS within 2 hours.
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Frankly I am disgusted on how the devs handled this. In other games and mods when something broken is added it takes at most a few days to roll back the patch or fix it. Testing things on your players instead of Beta testers is absurd.
It was being exploited in AUS within 2 hours.
I'd feel the same way, then I remembered that 1. this mod is free and 2. it's called "cRPG BETA", merely version 0.3. So I don't get too bent out of shape when the devs troll us.
However, it's a different story on this new game they are making. After they've taken our money, if they still act like arrogant pricks on the forums and with with server maintenance/patching/adminning/etc, the community will make sure their game is a flop. Although EA still makes money despite their deplorable behavior, but I digress.