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Title: One month ban
Post by: Falka on June 26, 2013, 05:33:30 pm
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Quote from: Erzengal
Alighar banned for one month for teamkilling. This is already his 6th bans this year and the 3rd one this month.

Really? With such tiny playerbase you ban guys for a month? Ok, he tked one guy, then ban him, but for one month? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I don't get it, don't you think it's better to have more players than less? Even if one of them tk once in a while?  :wink:
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Panos on June 26, 2013, 05:37:15 pm
Erzengel did his job, I blame the fuckface who reported the dude.

Guys like Chirs or Pepe, really disgust me.

The community should shun them and isolate them like they would do if they had plague.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Bazinga on June 26, 2013, 05:43:05 pm
At least Erzengel is an admin who is doing his job properly. If someone just can't be arsed to learn from his mistakes, he has to deal with the consequences.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Prpavi on June 26, 2013, 05:50:17 pm
"This is already his 6th bans this year and the 3rd one this month"

With a record like this a month seems light.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Tennenoth on June 26, 2013, 06:17:15 pm
Besides, keeping people like him around who clearly don't learn (as mentioned before) will only result in out cry from proper community members who will feel we're understaffed & therefore will be inclined to leave.

Better to be rid of repeat offenders & keep the good guys to be honest.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Erzengel on June 26, 2013, 06:27:16 pm
I don't see a point in trying to keep players who only grief others all the time. He had 10 bans in one year, 5 of them alone for teamkilling (the others were chat abuse including racist comments and griefing). Are you really missing this guy that much? I doubt that the mod will die only because he is banned.  :wink:

Edit: I also can't understand why you have to open a topic in General Discussion only because a person you probably don't even know got banned for a while. Do you have access to his ban history or why do you think that you can rate this decision here? :)
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Joker86 on June 26, 2013, 06:34:11 pm
Erzengel did his job, I blame the fuckface who reported the dude.

Guys like Chirs or Pepe, really disgust me.

The community should shun them and isolate them like they would do if they had plague.

If it is okay to ban him, it's also okay to report him. I don't know how you can draw the line there?

I don't know Alighar, and perhaps he is a nice guy, but if he is repeatedly TKing but doesn't learn anything, I think it's okay to apply the "learning through pain"-method as last resort. Every time he TKs someone he is spoiling someone's fun, and if he does it on a regular basis, he is spoiling the fun of many people on a regular basis, which seems enough of a reason for a 1 month ban.

Seriously, if I am in doubt I could hurt a teammate, I rather don't swing. I don't know how often I died because I was afraid of hurting team mates. When in doubt just don't attack. If you don't have that self discipline, then grow it. If you can't, our friendly admins will support you with bans until you have learned your lesson.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Ikarus on June 26, 2013, 06:39:10 pm
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Even if one of them tk once in a while?  :wink:

Not every tk is always immediately reported, so he probably tked more than those who reported him
after the 6th (!!) ban in a year, a month is quite okay
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: [ptx] on June 26, 2013, 06:40:06 pm
From what i've personally ever seen of Alighar, he has always been a cunt - chat abuse, racism, grieving in various forms... He isn't a repeat offender with minor rule breaks, he has been steadily working towards an essay/permaban. Definitely not someone whose absence will hurt the mod. If anything, letting crap like that slide will only worsen the ingame atmosphere and make more people play less.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Thovex on June 26, 2013, 06:40:53 pm
Prime time on EU1 is now 60 players? Aww yeah maybe some play time without getting shot or is it 80% archers and 10% cav still?
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 26, 2013, 06:49:48 pm
I don't like Alighar, I find him extremely annoying at times, but unlike guys like Hemmoroid Alighar isn't unpleasant enough to need to get permabanned imo.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: //saxon on June 26, 2013, 06:53:38 pm
lol im the sort of player that never bothers with reporting in game, on this forum or on IRC. i get teamhit like atleast 1-2 times every life and teamkilled like 1 in every 6 deaths or something. never do i think of reporting or raging at them.

if its obvious and they mean it though because they are troll twats then i just say shit like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=czkJZUI3_BY#t=95s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=czkJZUI3_BY#t=95s)
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Kafein on June 26, 2013, 06:54:49 pm
Banned 6 times aleady and he only got one month, what was the progression ? One hour, one day, two days, four days, one week, two weeks and now one month ? The guy will probably never change.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Falka on June 26, 2013, 08:00:33 pm
Edit: I also can't understand why you have to open a topic in General Discussion only because

Have to? No, I don't have to, but I can and I want, so I do. Dunno what's your problem with that. Anyway, according to me bans shouldn't be so long, punishment should be dealt out swiftly and inevitably, but not neccesarilly vrey harsh (vide Cesare Beccaria :P). 

Besides, keeping people like him around who clearly don't learn (as mentioned before) will only result in out cry from proper community members who will feel we're understaffed & therefore will be inclined to leave.

Better to be rid of repeat offenders & keep the good guys to be honest.

I think empty servers hurt game much more than guy who's teamkilling 3 guys in 1 month, but maybe you're right. Personally I don't care as much as some other players about teamkills, insults and so called "racism", but not everyone is like me I guess ;P
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on June 26, 2013, 08:11:53 pm
Erzengel did his job, I blame the fuckface who reported the dude.

Guys like Chirs or Pepe, really disgust me.

The community should shun them and isolate them like they would do if they had plague.

you know that I reported him (after a friend has sent me a screen)
and you know that htis guy was a really big fuckn plaguelike bundle of sticks  I'm serious this guy is a complete retard who shouldn't be able to play again
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Panos on June 26, 2013, 08:14:13 pm
I`m not against punishing people, but I`m against permabans.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Erzengel on June 26, 2013, 08:16:21 pm
Have to? No, I don't have to, but I can and I want, so I do. Dunno what's your problem with that.   

If you are not happy with a decision you should either post here: http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/) or just talk to the admin. No need to open a drama topic each time you don't like something. Opening a thread in General Discussion is not the nicest/best way to voice cirticism, especially if you have no background information.

I`m not against punishing people, but I`m against permabans.

I don't like Alighar, I find him extremely annoying at times, but unlike guys like Hemmoroid Alighar isn't unpleasant enough to need to get permabanned imo.

Just for your information, nobody got permabanned. :) He was banned for one month, because he already had a two weeks ban not so long ago and didn't learn anything from it.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: BASNAK on June 26, 2013, 08:17:10 pm
Alighar is one of the biggest douches in EU.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Kuujis on June 26, 2013, 08:33:50 pm
I don't see a point in trying to keep players who only grief others all the time. He had 10 bans in one year, 5 of them alone for teamkilling (the others were chat abuse including racist comments and griefing). Are you really missing this guy that much? I doubt that the mod will die only because he is banned.  :wink:

Edit: I also can't understand why you have to open a topic in General Discussion only because a person you probably don't even know got banned for a while. Do you have access to his ban history or why do you think that you can rate this decision here? :)

You know what they say - you ain't an admin until you get your personal abuze/rage/complaint thread. And those polite and structured feedback threads - they do not count :P Not sure I saw one for you yet, but this might be considered close ;)
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Falka on June 26, 2013, 08:41:17 pm
If you are not happy with a decision you should either post here: http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/) or just talk to the admin. No need to open a drama topic each time you don't like something. Opening a thread in General Discussion is not the nicest/best way to voice cirticism,

It's not the point of my post. I don't critcise this particular decision - or at least not only this one - but general tendency to banning players for a long period of time, e.g. 2 weeks ban for calling Fuma "muslim shit"  :wink: And I don't see any drama here, expressing my opinion not necesarilly is making drama  :rolleyes:

 I saw Alighar shit talking and people getting mad about him a few times, but it wasn't any worse or more serious then Bjords nerd insults and... Well, I guess it wasn't a good example :P  Dunno, maybe he really is a jerk  :wink:
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Muunilinst on June 26, 2013, 08:51:28 pm
Justice shouldnt be dependant on the number of the playerbase.

and on a sidenote , allways i saw this guy he was insulting or teamkilling someone....
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: karasu on June 26, 2013, 10:52:03 pm
Purge the unclean!
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Vodner on June 26, 2013, 10:55:22 pm
cRPG is one of the most forgiving games I have seen in terms of ban lengths. You have to really, really screw up to get a ban longer than a couple of days.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: pepejul on June 26, 2013, 11:06:08 pm
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Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Falka on June 26, 2013, 11:08:27 pm
cRPG is one of the most forgiving games I have seen in terms of ban lengths. You have to really, really screw up to get a ban longer than a couple of days.

In native I got permabanned for saying "grow some balls" to admin  :wink:
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Tore on June 26, 2013, 11:14:51 pm
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Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Friedturtle on June 26, 2013, 11:18:38 pm
He should be happy he didn't get perma banned from the game imo...
Hope his next ban will be permanent, no respect for this team killing players, especially when they already got banned in the past for that reason.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: pepejul on June 26, 2013, 11:34:50 pm
Cunts never change... permaBan is deserved
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Crob28 on June 26, 2013, 11:42:54 pm
Erzengel did his job, I blame the fuckface who reported the dude.

Guys like Chirs or Pepe, really disgust me.

The community should shun them and isolate them like they would do if they had plague.

While I agree that people who go out of their way to get people banned aren't exactly the best members of the community, I also don't understand why some people have so much against it.  Fair enough running off crying to admins isn't an attractive option but sometimes it is the best thing to do.

For example, couple of days or so ago I was on EU2 and there were 2 guys standing on the siege ramp kicking every single teammate attacker off of it who tried to run past, and pressing M every single time someone retaliated.  Only kick polls were enabled, so every time they got kicked or M'd out of the server, they came straight back and carried on, for multiple rounds.  They were seriously pissing people off with all this and it was all just getting messy with some players starting to try and tk them to stop them and a lot of chat rage.

No admin was online so I went to IRC and asked for one to come sort it out (think PTX responded IIRC).  I didn't like or particularly wanna do it but I would do it again if need be, why should 2 arseholes be allowed to piss off a whole server without response and get away with it? Imo nothing is worse for the community than letting shit like that go unchecked.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Panos on June 26, 2013, 11:50:20 pm
While I agree that people who go out of their way to get people banned aren't exactly the best members of the community, I also don't understand why some people have so much against it.  Fair enough running off crying to admins isn't an attractive option but sometimes it is the best thing to do.

For example, couple of days or so ago I was on EU2 and there were 2 guys standing on the siege ramp kicking every single teammate attacker off of it who tried to run past, and pressing M every single time someone retaliated.  Only kick polls were enabled, so every time they got kicked or M'd out of the server, they came straight back and carried on, for multiple rounds.  They were seriously pissing people off with all this and it was all just getting messy with some players starting to try and tk them to stop them and a lot of chat rage.

No admin was online so I went to IRC and asked for one to come sort it out (think PTX responded IIRC).  I didn't like or particularly wanna do it but I would do it again if need be, why should 2 arseholes be allowed to piss off a whole server without response and get away with it? Imo nothing is worse for the community than letting shit like that go unchecked.


Erzengel did his job, I blame the fuckface who reported the dude.

Guys like Chirs or Pepe, really disgust me.

The community should shun them and isolate them like they would do if they had plague.


Making a ban request is ok, making 2 or 3 ban requests per day, is not ok, Pepe have said enldess times, that he`s having fun reporting people, and for some reason, he seems to get away with it.

I like Pepe, I won`t deny it, but fuck, his reporting makes me want to slap him, I will never forget how he kept threating a new player on EU1 with a ban just because he didnt have a weapon.

The mod is already hard by itself to new players, and people like Pepe makes it even harder, who cares if he leeched for 10-20 rounds, let him leech you fuck, let him make some money and eventually he will buy gear.

I challenge you, take a look at Pepe`s ban requests, 90% of them, are against new players, who simple didnt read the rules.


Chris is a little douche bag, who got banned 5 or 6 times, and now he tries to make amends by reporting people for everything, If you fart and Chris smells it, prepare to be ban requested by Chris.

Probably a fat german kid, who can`t enjoy the summer.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Crob28 on June 26, 2013, 11:58:48 pm


Making a ban request is ok, making 2 or 3 ban requests per day, is not ok, Pepe have said enldess times, that he`s having fun reporting people, and for some reason, he seems to get a way with it.

I like Pepe, I won`t deny it, but fuck, his reporting makes me want to slap him, I will never forget how he kept threating a new player on EU1 with a ban just because he didnt have a weapon.

The mod is already hard by itself to new players, and people like Pepe makes it even harder, who cares if he leeched for 10-20 rounds, let him leech you fuck, let him make some money and eventually he will buy gear.

I challenge you, take a look at Pepe`s ban requests, 90% of them, are against new players, who simple didnt read the rules.


Chris is a little douche bag, who got banned 5 or 6 times, and now he tries to make amends by reporting people for everything, If you fart and Chris smells it, prepare to be banned requested by Chris.

Probably a fat german kid, who can`t enjoy the summer.

Fair enough, I can agree pretty wholeheartedly with that viewpoint.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: brunoII on June 27, 2013, 12:31:22 am
I have often seen Alighar the server duels ..... if there was a ranking for insults (such as the duels) would be among the first places .... once began to intrude among the other players who were dueling and a vote was ban (after it had already been kick in the first survey and was returned to the server) In my opinion Erz decided in an optimal manner ..... (maybe he will learn the lesson) Who wants permanent ban disagree .... In the end this guy is just a little jerk ....
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Teeth on June 27, 2013, 12:41:50 am
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Really? With such tiny playerbase you ban guys for a month? Ok, he tked one guy, then ban him, but for one month? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I don't get it, don't you think it's better to have more players than less? Even if one of them tk once in a while?  :wink:
It is truly an outrage...

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Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: pepejul on June 27, 2013, 01:31:05 am
Since Tenne explained to me I NEVER banrequested new player for leeching anymore.... now I give information about how buying stuff and play...

I can change, I m better each day because of good admins and players advices...

If some random stupid tker can't change and tk again and again he deserves permaban... I don't understand your permaQQing Panos... just have fun and play... like me
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Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Panos on June 27, 2013, 01:40:27 am
Your fun is snitching new players, thanks but I won`t have that kind of fun.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Harpag on June 27, 2013, 03:03:38 am
I`m not against punishing people, but I`m against permabans.

Even for me? Banos my friend, you still amaze me hehe, +1 for for a good boy ^^
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Sniger on June 27, 2013, 05:45:08 pm
Quote from: Erzengel
Alighar banned for one month for teamkilling. This is already his 6th bans this year and the 3rd one this month.

6h ban and 3rd in a month?? O_0

lol good thing im not admin, id perma ban right away
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: pepejul on June 27, 2013, 11:03:13 pm
Panos is permaLoL  :lol:
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on June 28, 2013, 06:38:04 pm
Since Tenne explained to me I NEVER banrequested new player for leeching anymore.... now I give information about how buying stuff and play...

I can change, I m better each day because of good admins and players advices...

If some random stupid tker can't change and tk again and again he deserves permaban... I don't understand your permaQQing Panos... just have fun and play... like me
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you need special explanation for not banrequesting new players
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Panos on June 28, 2013, 06:46:42 pm
you need special explanation for not banrequesting new players

his IQ is lower than the average apparently.
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: pepejul on June 29, 2013, 07:49:08 am
can you give me a name of new player I made ban please ?
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Gurnisson on June 29, 2013, 11:29:58 am
It is truly an outrage...

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Killing bots with a long spear/pike is harder than killing people in strat battles or on eu 1. :D
Title: Re: One month ban
Post by: Oberyn on June 29, 2013, 05:11:39 pm
can you give me a name of new player I made ban please ?

He can't, he got permabanned for...what is it now, 4th time? 5th?
Panos has absolutely no ulterior motive whatsoever in having less "snitches" in the game...