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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: rufio on June 23, 2013, 02:59:51 pm

Title: why?
Post by: rufio on June 23, 2013, 02:59:51 pm
why is it i can usually take more melee hits than ranged hits,  :cry:
Title: Re: why?
Post by: sF_Guardian on June 23, 2013, 03:02:07 pm
Man, it's to early to be drunk  :?
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Prpavi on June 23, 2013, 03:06:46 pm
halleluyah brotha, speek the truth!
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Paul on June 23, 2013, 03:29:40 pm
Because you possess an uncanny combination of selective recognition, frenetic ignorance and believe in the significance of anecdotal evidence.
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Haboe on June 23, 2013, 03:32:39 pm
Going after the title, i think its not needed to read content of his topic, i'll just leave this here:

Butthurt.
Title: Re: why?
Post by: rufio on June 23, 2013, 03:49:50 pm
Quote from: Paul on June 23, 2013, 03:29:40 pm
Because you possess an uncanny combination of selective recognition, frenetic ignorance and believe in the significance of anecdotal evidence.

why you heff to be mad, i only preech truths

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Title: Re: why?
Post by: karasu on June 23, 2013, 04:12:12 pm
Quote from: Paul on June 23, 2013, 03:29:40 pm
Because you possess an uncanny combination of selective recognition, frenetic ignorance and believe in the significance of anecdotal evidence.

Go home Paul, you're drunk.
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Teeth on June 23, 2013, 05:44:35 pm
I tank a fuckload of hits in melee, but regardless whether I wear 60 or 79 body armour, 2-3 bolts or 3-5 arrows and I am toast. This could have to do with my incessant backpedalling and all the melee hits I take get reduced damage from bad speed bonus, but I am fairly sure if I were to count the result would support the OP.

I always found armour way too powerful and allowing too many mistakes in this mod, except when getting shot because then it doesn't do shit.
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Tydeus on June 23, 2013, 05:47:12 pm
Quote from: Teeth on June 23, 2013, 05:44:35 pm
I tank a fuckload of hits in melee, but regardless whether I wear 60 or 79 body armour, 2-3 bolts or 3-5 arrows and I am toast. This could have to do with my incessant backpedalling and all the melee hits I take get reduced damage from bad speed bonus.

I always found armour way too powerful and allowing too many mistakes in this mod, except when getting shot because then it doesn't do shit.
Most melee hits are cut damage, most ranged hits are pierce, all ranged hits have the extra_penetration modifier.
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Crob28 on June 23, 2013, 05:52:42 pm
Quote from: Teeth on June 23, 2013, 05:44:35 pm
I tank a fuckload of hits in melee, but regardless whether I wear 60 or 79 body armour, 2-3 bolts or 3-5 arrows and I am toast. This could have to do with my incessant backpedalling and all the melee hits I take get reduced damage frombad speed bonus, but I am fairly sure if I were to count the result would support the OP.

I always found armour way too powerful and allowing too many mistakes in this mod, except when getting shot because then it doesn't do shit.

It's probably this, I play an offensive shielder so I'm often pushing forward in melee so when I get hit, I get hit hard.  Frequently get 2shot despite 70hp and 63 body armor.
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Grumbs on June 23, 2013, 06:02:58 pm
Applying piercing damage from range is the problem really. For melee it comes at a premium for swings, but grab any ranged weapon and you can do piercing regardless of the range
Title: Re: why?
Post by: BlueKnight on June 23, 2013, 07:56:50 pm
Quote from: Tydeus on June 23, 2013, 05:47:12 pm
Most melee hits are cut damage, most ranged hits are pierce, all ranged hits have the extra_penetration modifier.
I guess ranged enjoy this 'extra_penetration'...
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Stabby_Dave on June 23, 2013, 08:04:56 pm
You always notice extra penetration
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Kafein on June 23, 2013, 08:40:37 pm
Buff melee damage
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Corsair831 on June 24, 2013, 12:12:24 am
Quote from: Teeth on June 23, 2013, 05:44:35 pm
I tank a fuckload of hits in melee, but regardless whether I wear 60 or 79 body armour, 2-3 bolts or 3-5 arrows and I am toast. This could have to do with my incessant backpedalling and all the melee hits I take get reduced damage from bad speed bonus, but I am fairly sure if I were to count the result would support the OP.

I always found armour way too powerful and allowing too many mistakes in this mod, except when getting shot because then it doesn't do shit.

i agree armour just allows you to make mistakes and not be penalised .. it's pretty silly really
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Dooz on June 24, 2013, 12:28:04 am
Quote from: Paul on June 23, 2013, 03:29:40 pm
Because you possess an uncanny combination of selective recognition, frenetic ignorance and believe in the significance of anecdotal evidence.

autopost this for every whine thread
Title: Re: why?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 24, 2013, 04:18:58 pm
Quote from: rufio on June 23, 2013, 02:59:51 pm
why is it i can usually take more melee hits than ranged hits,  :cry:

Who was the melee person hitting you.  What was his strength, power strike, and wpf for the class of weapon he was using?  What kind of weapon was he using (was it loomed, what kind and how much damage does it deal before speed bonus), what kind of speed bonus did he have on the swing.  Were you moving into the swings or away from them, or somewhere in the middle?  How much soak did your armor do in this particular hit?  What about the next one?

Who shot you?  Were they using a crossbow or bow?  What kind of bow/xbow was it?  How much power draw do they have?  What about WPF?  What kind of bolts/arrows were they using?  Were you moving away from them or into the shots?  How far away was the person who shot you?  How much damage did your armor soak on the hit?  What about the next one?

Rufio, more like QQfio

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*EDIT* Who doesn't like a little extra penetration? 
Title: Re: why?
Post by: rufio on June 24, 2013, 04:35:04 pm
murica my old friends gonna my old friend
Title: Re: why?
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on June 24, 2013, 04:39:58 pm
Honestly I think cav's the problem here.

As usual.

Shittiest class in the mod, swear on me mum's lyfe m8.
Title: Re: why?
Post by: Dexxtaa on June 24, 2013, 04:54:46 pm
Quote from: rufio on June 23, 2013, 02:59:51 pm
why is it i can usually take more melee hits than ranged hits,  :cry:

Who the fuck knows anymore
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Title: Re: why?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 26, 2013, 10:59:38 pm
For me it varies, ofcourse an arbalest bolt will do more damage than most melee hits, but i've had a couple of times where an arbalest has done wimpy damage. For arrows sometimes they only do like 5% sometimes they do 40% its pretty much like melee.