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Title: Strength
Post by: Jacu on June 06, 2013, 06:09:37 pm
many people sey "yes" many people say "no",  "never"
Do we have something like "mass effect" on Crpg ?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/siag.jpg/?sa=0
strength gives only 1point to hp and let wear more heavy armors
if someone have 30str, will he move faster because he have musculature (many strength) ?
if Butan with 30str and one athletics can be faster than peasant with the same athletics for what we have 7 or 8 athletics ?
maybe all chars should have build 27/12
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Idzo on June 06, 2013, 06:22:51 pm
Go home, ur drunk.
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 06:33:08 pm
cmp god said no
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Macropus on June 06, 2013, 06:39:48 pm
Strength doesn't affect your speed in any way.
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Daniisme on June 06, 2013, 06:40:26 pm
Since when muscular men can move faster in heavy armor, it's not even realistic...
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on June 06, 2013, 06:41:16 pm
buff str
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Grumbs on June 06, 2013, 06:50:58 pm
Quote from: Macropus on June 06, 2013, 06:39:48 pm
Strength doesn't affect your speed in any way.

I thought str reduced the movement speed penalty for armour weight
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 06, 2013, 06:51:11 pm
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Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Jacu on June 06, 2013, 07:02:51 pm
Quote from: Idzo on June 06, 2013, 06:22:51 pm
Go home, ur drunk.

you are helpful as always Idzo, next time dont increase your renown or infamy on my topics ok? :)

ofc str dont give bonus to move but maybe reduce penalty from heavy armors.
I have 8 ath. and i fought with 2h who had 4 ath. ofc i know my shield weigh 7.7 but i had saranid armor and he had Milanese armor, and what ?! he was faster than me
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 06, 2013, 07:04:26 pm
Quote from: Grumbs on June 06, 2013, 06:50:58 pm
I thought str reduced the movement speed penalty for armour weight

It does. So technically it indirectly does buff your speed, specifically if you're wearing heavy armor. Just more incentive to crutch!
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 07:05:39 pm
Quote from: TheAppleSauceMan on June 06, 2013, 07:04:26 pm
It does. So technically it indirectly does buff your speed, specifically if you're wearing heavy armor. Just more incentive to crutch!

No it doesn't. Just let me find that cmpquote or uristquote
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 06, 2013, 07:15:38 pm
Quote from: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 07:05:39 pm
No it doesn't. Just let me find that cmpquote or uristquote

Unless they changed it recently, which is very much possible as I just came back from a 4 month or so break, then it does. I know it did for awhile. I took advantage of it on a 36-3 build. It was quite nice.

Although are you sure you're not just misinterpreting what I mean? I'm not saying STR directly increases movement speed, rather it reduces the amount armor slows you down, thus someone who is 36/3 with 1 ATH and someone who is say 30/9 with 1 ATH, both with same armor, I believe the 36/3 would be faster. But like I said it's entirely possible it could have changed while I was gone.
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 07:19:20 pm
Quote from: TheAppleSauceMan on June 06, 2013, 07:15:38 pm
Unless they changed it recently, which is very much possible as I just came back from a 4 month or so break, then it does. I know it did for awhile. I took advantage of it on a 36-3 build. It was quite nice.

Although are you sure you're not just misinterpreting what I mean? I'm not saying STR directly increases movement speed, rather it reduces the amount armor slows you down, thus someone who is 36/3 with 1 ATH and someone who is say 30/9 with 1 ATH, both with same armor, I believe the 36/3 would be faster. But like I said it's entirely possible it could have changed while I was gone.

Strenght has no effect on the armor weight movement penalty, or so that's what the devs said. And it is pretty old (might even be the case in Native too).
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 06, 2013, 07:22:25 pm
Quote from: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 07:19:20 pm
Strenght has no effect on the armor weight movement penalty, or so that's what the devs said. And it is pretty old (might even be the case in Native too).

I could've sworn it did, I remember reading it somewhere, or maybe it was just hearing it from multiple people I just sort of took it as a given, either way, I'd love to have it cleared up, now I'm curious!  :D
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Rumblood on June 06, 2013, 07:29:39 pm
Quote from: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 07:19:20 pm
Strenght has no effect on the armor weight movement penalty, or so that's what the devs said. And it is pretty old (might even be the case in Native too).

I don't buy this at all given actual observed in-game behavior. Something is making strength tincans with less athletics able to outrun agility based infantry.
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 07:32:43 pm
Quote from: Rumblood on June 06, 2013, 07:29:39 pm
I don't buy this at all given actual observed in-game behavior. Something is making strength tincans with less athletics able to outrun agility based infantry.

Sprint.

When running long distances without interruptions, athletics, agi and weight are less relevant because the sprint speed kicks in.
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 06, 2013, 07:41:37 pm
Quote from: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 07:32:43 pm
Sprint.

When running long distances without interruptions, athletics, agi and weight are less relevant because the sprint speed kicks in.

I would try to hop in IRC and ask one of the devs if I wasn't at school. I'm dying to know the answer to this now.
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: BlueKnight on June 06, 2013, 07:46:00 pm
Quote from: TheAppleSauceMan on June 06, 2013, 07:41:37 pm
... I'm dying to know the answer to this now.
Quickly! Where are the medics when you need them!

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Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Macropus on June 06, 2013, 08:00:47 pm
I'd rather say - the less athletics you have, the less armor weight penalty you get, as it reduces your athletics in a percentage value.
That doesn't mean strength affects your speed in any way.
Quote from: Rumblood on June 06, 2013, 07:29:39 pm
Something is making strength tincans with less athletics able to outrun agility based infantry.
Bullshit. They can never outrun agility based infantry.
They only can catch them in a good moment when agi chars fail their running timing, if they're lucky.
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Teeth on June 06, 2013, 08:20:33 pm
Quote from: Grumbs on June 06, 2013, 06:50:58 pm
I thought str reduced the movement speed penalty for armour weight
It does not, never did.

Quote from: cmpxchg8b on May 03, 2013, 01:56:26 pm
STR doesn't affect your speed.
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: Butan on June 07, 2013, 02:37:51 am
In time immemorial, the tooltip on strength had the "decrease weight speed penalty"part;  but it has been removed and thus, never happened!

The legend still lives on, despite multiple attempts from officials...
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 07, 2013, 03:15:48 am
Quote from: Butan on June 07, 2013, 02:37:51 am
In time immemorial, the tooltip on strength had the "decrease weight speed penalty"part;  but it has been removed and thus, never happened!

The legend still lives on, despite multiple attempts from officials...

AH YES! I knew I saw it somewhere, this clears it all up! So either the devs lied when they put that on the site, or this is all one big conspiracy they're trying to cover up!  :shock:
Title: Re: Strength
Post by: [ptx] on June 07, 2013, 07:21:46 am
Quote from: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 06:33:08 pm
cmp god said no
CoMPuter says no...