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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: OttomanSniper on June 03, 2013, 06:15:52 pm

Title: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: OttomanSniper on June 03, 2013, 06:15:52 pm
Bow archers give ranged skill for their builds, but XBow archers don't need to give any skill for XBows ...and xbows are more harmfull then bows.

When 2 handers say "nerf ranged" generally nerfs focus on bow archers but i think xbow players are more annoying about ranged.

Xbow archers dont give skill point for arbalest and any STR player can use this weapon. every one says "too many archers in the servers" but they are not archers. they are dont give any archer point for this, i give only 25 wp for crossbow but i can shot good than my 150wp archery bows.

if they are archer pls stipulate to them for give PD skill. or if they are not archer why nerf real archers?

i dont want buff for bow archery its ok i can understand u, but i want PD skill on xbow for get rid of bad image on us.

sorry for eng.
Title: Re: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 03, 2013, 06:36:14 pm
Xbows aren't necessarily stronger than bows.  The base stats are stronger, but PD adds damage to the bow as well (what is it, like 14% for every power draw)? 

Also, xbows take a lot longer to shoot between shots, so that is probably why they tend to do more damage. 

I always thought it would be good to have a skill for xbows similar to PD (would have to lower the base damage of the xbows though). 
Title: Re: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: Jarold on June 05, 2013, 02:18:07 am
If you want to be historical here the crossbow is pretty realistic/historical right now. Archers required a lot more training than crossbowman and they didn't hurt as much as crossbows. A peasant could pick up a crossbow, with minimal training, and BLAM take out the enemy king if he wanted to! Hence why they were banned from the Christian vs Christian battles for a little while.


BTW I think crossbows and bows are nicely balanced as is right now. Crossbows, slow to reload but they hurt. Bows, fast, successive fire and they can do either a lot of damage or some damage depending on the bow and PD. I personally enjoy bows more.
Title: Re: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: Gurnisson on June 05, 2013, 04:24:35 am
I'm mostly melee on my main character, but have played all the classes (bar HT) on different alts. I don't think nerfing xbows would be a good move, considering they're already inferior to bows. :wink:
Title: Re: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 05, 2013, 07:58:40 am
So long as you leave the nice round 100p number at the end of my xbow rig alone, I'll take 5PD :D
Title: Re: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: OttomanSniper on June 07, 2013, 03:52:48 pm
Its not a real nerf for xbow, i dont want reduce damage. example, arbalest need 6 pd like long bow. Problem is not bow damage, problem is too many ranged player on the servers. 2/5 bow archers, 3/5 xbow archer in the servers. try this and i know this game will be balanced.  pls be objective
Title: Re: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on June 08, 2013, 04:22:02 am
I think xbow is pretty good right now.

Remember, battle server is easily fucked up by imbalances in the numbers of certain classes playing. Too many cav or ranged, for example, will make things much less fun for the other players. Cav and ranged kill without warning, and often without giving their victims a chance to directly defend themselves.

Things balance out a little bit in Strat, though.

Unless a limit for classes is implemented, players will continue to play how they want to play, even if it means unbalancing the Battle server for a bit.
Title: Re: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: OttomanSniper on June 10, 2013, 09:58:33 pm
i suggested class limit but devs say this is like warband not good. but PD for xbow will fix this problem(too many archer in the field).
Title: Re: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: Leshma on June 21, 2013, 02:26:05 pm
Buff my old friendchery! (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rongreen/bowbladevideo-gaming-meets-archery?ref=category)
Title: Re: What is the fault about nerf archery?
Post by: OttomanSniper on June 22, 2013, 06:16:43 am
any STR player can use xbow, xbow need Power Draw skill. if u dont want hear more pew pew put PD skill for xbow. All archers 100%, xbow 70%, bow archer 30% because bow archer is a class and we are use skill point for this, but xbow is not a class not need PD skill... its a big BUG!

xbow players are more annoying, they are more harmful, more accurate aim.