my sword has spoken ! :twisted:
Ps: thanks for the 100 k gold :rolleyes:
Hopefully we didn't fail to show we are much more Evil than we seem.
WHY KESH BOOBS SO SMALL?!: (
WHY KESH BOOBS SO SMALL?! :(
Fighting with us is so much morefunprofitable than fighting against. Hopefully we showed we are not nearly as Evil as we seem.
Not going to lie, being the enemy of FCC and mercing regularly against them has been a nightmare, especially when I am cav. I was always raging at their discipline and tactics, pikes and hoplites always fanned out, good eyes on defense or offense protecting all the flanks.
pretty sure they both have female characters in game(click to show/hide)
110 isnt close to 78 jeez 110-78=32
110 isnt close to 78 jeez 110-78=32
Nothin' like 1 sentence to get FCC's panties in a bunch :DConfirmed for Fgt. Get over yourself Saxton, You're moment of fame is over. Just in case you didn't notice in "Homo in the Grass Thread" All of FCC's enemies pretty much came together and sympathized With FCC to trash you. You're nothing. The faster everyone forgets you exist, the better the community will be. You're also missing a chromosome.
Nothin' like 1 post to get some serious Ss panties in a bunch
Look out, guys. He is spilling drama all over every thread he can get his hands on. Wash it as soon as he leaves, or it might leave some gross stains.
This is gold, 1 post to get FCCs', Dracul, and Ss panties in a serious bunch!SEMENstorm = commando only
Hmm first person to spot this, interesting.
Wait we're done warring with the half-french half-american 100% canadian wannabees?
What sort of blemish sorcery is this! I have never been consulted, and you know I am the best when it comes down to talking to the French-Canadian.
You guys sometimes...
Aro had to wait for me to quit before he could do such a move, i would've never accepted that!What! you quit?
What a sad day it is
Aro had to wait for me to quit before he could do such a move, i would've never accepted that!
What a sad day it is
I can redraw it the way you are asking. But you won't like it...Add the tentacles!
Add the tentacles!
I know you too well
My league of legends name is sumohentai...
I am disappointed in Occitan/SS. You hold off the armies of VE and gain territory only to stop your campaign well short of its potential and turn craven. This peace treaty means nothing except that you will take the place of VE as being the large complacent faction that will usually merc for FCC. Goodbye sweet exp that could have been. God have mercy on FIDLGB, God have mercy on the Frisians, and may God have mercy on your souls.
God have mercy on FIDLGB, God have mercy on the Frisians, and may God have mercy on your souls.
I am disappointed in Occitan/SS. You hold off the armies of VE and gain territory only to stop your campaign well short of its potential and turn craven. This peace treaty means nothing except that you will take the place of VE as being the large complacent faction that will usually merc for FCC. Goodbye sweet exp that could have been. God have mercy on FIDLGB, God have mercy on the Frisians, and may God have mercy on your souls.
Remnant I'm looking at you.
I guess we will never find out.
Nice view from here btw.
The people that have the balls are apparently in the smaller factions. By balls i mean testicles. What I'm saying is if you're a part of this bum hugging anal fest of peace you lack the testicular fortitude to do shit on your own. It's OK though. Who wants to have fun talking shit and fighting large battles when we just all be allies and play trading sim 2013.
So clever but please refer to my first post. We'll never know because you lacked the balls/brains to attack us without the endless yawshawned armies of the FCC. Matey lead the charge. Remnant is now nothing more than another one of Kesh's accounts. No better than a trained dog. How does the leash feel dynamike? Or are you going to post another joke to help alleviate the sting of truth?
So clever but please refer to my first post. We'll never know because you lacked the balls/brains to attack us without the endless yawshawned armies of the FCC. Matey lead the charge. Remnant is now nothing more than another one of Kesh's accounts. No better than a trained dog. How does the leash feel dynamike? Or are you going to post another joke to help alleviate the sting of truth?
it'smost likelya waste of precious internet words
We have so much chaos backing. So much. Like when you took our fiefs and they didn't let you because of all that backing. Oh wait. That didn't happen. As far as me grandstanding lol all I'm saying is don't come in here as dynamike has acting like they won the day and our fiefs because they are so pro. Reality check Matey did and as you said "you are the FCC." Also I attacked Remnant twice over S&D points they could've retaliated. The street goes both ways. Your factions are perfect for each other though, always trying to paint yourselves as the victims and heroes of justice. Shitbags unite is more like it.
Just sayin Dyna, you can't come in here acting like you did it by yourselfDid not.
bragging about being thereI am, so I can.
Had you not been a member of the FCC you wouldn't be in our fief right now at all.Don't know that.
Twist the words to your advantage however you see fitAm not.
Your 3 members would have been no match for our 6. MATH.Bigger faction wins. What exactly are you complaining about then?
We have so much chaos backing. So much. Like when you took our fiefs and they didn't let you because of all that backing. Oh wait. That didn't happen.You should join FCC - they got your back.
all I'm saying is don't come in here as dynamike has acting like they won the day and our fiefs because they are so pro. Reality check Matey did and as you said "you are the FCC."I think you're catching on now - we did win the day. Our Strat faction did. The FCC did. We are PART of the FCC.
Also I attacked Remnant twice over S&D points they could've retaliatedAnd both times you failed. No need for retaliation on failed attacks.
Your factions are perfect for each other thoughI concur.
always trying to paint yourselves as the victims and heroes of justice. Shitbags unite is more like it.Is that anger speaking?
The reason you still have a castle (and possibly the reason you ever had land in the first place) is chaos. They sent a few thousand troops to fight us and thousands more to reinforce the castle. That being said, you guys choose to work with chaos for a reason so it is fully expected they would help you and you would them. There aren't many clans (if any) who got where they are without some cooperation with other clans... (VE was 3 clans, le chevalier de occitan is two and they work with ss, FCC is comprised of many, chaos and bowlers, ravens worked with a few clans then ended up in fimbl with frisia and dracul. )
Just a minor note. LCO is now 4 clans: Occitan, Chevalier, Hosp, and Kingdom of Duprix, while being friendly with semenstrom.
We have so much chaos backing. So much. Like when you took our fiefs and they didn't let you because of all that backing. Oh wait. That didn't happen.
Why is raging against your own allies suddenly so popular amongst our enemies?
Why doesssssssss it thinksssss it hassssss smartsssss. Why it actssssss like itsss smartasssssss? It putsssss the lotion on itssssss ssssskin and it bringssssssss kesh and baleohhhhhay back
I actually forgot you were a Frisian. Did that hit a nerve?
Boy, what a useful thread.
FIDLGB arguing that someone shouldn't make complaints like a sore winner when they were absorbed by another clan many their size.
FCC arguing that because they absorbed somebody that group is just "FCC", not a smaller group within FCC.
Both sides are wrong and you're all arguing something stupid. I'm going to write you a poem to release some of this tension here.Go jerk it and take a breath of fresh air! Don't you realize how little you care?
Yes that's right you fat fucks just get out of your chair!
Stop all these arguments and jeers!
Can't you see that you're all being queers?
FCC must learn that FIDLGB only cares about beer!
FIDLGB must learn that FCC no one does fear!
All these arguments and dares, they don't matter, for no one is playing fair!
And when you return you will find this simple fact much more clear:
All these shitty things you are typing, no one wants to hear!
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What would that be, shitlord?Made it obvious since you couldn't see the bold. :oops:
Boy, what a useful thread.
FIDLGB arguing that someone shouldn't make complaints like a sore winner when they were absorbed by another clan many their size.
FCC arguing that because they absorbed somebody that group is just "FCC", not a smaller group within FCC.
Both sides are wrong and you're all arguing something stupid. I'm going to write you a poem to release some of this tension here.Go jerk it and take a breath of fresh air! Don't you realize how little you care?
Yes that's right you fat fucks just get out of your chair!
Stop all these arguments and jeers!
Can't you see that you're all being queers?
FCC must learn that FIDLGB only cares about beer!
FIDLGB must learn that FCC no one does fear!
All these arguments and dares, they don't matter, for no one is playing fair!
And when you return you will find this simple fact much more clear:
All these shitty things you are typing, no one wants to hear!
Oh ho ho ho ho ho. I see.
FCC must learn that FIDLGB only cares about beer!
Personally, I always liked them Bowlers.
This is a war game. I'm a competitive person by nature and part of that is talking shit to thine enemies. That's what I do. I'm never mad but you can't tell that over typed words. You pussies.
thats why its more fun to be take good natured jibes at people or employ wonderfully obvious sarcasm. If your words are identical to that of a raging sperglord who is entirely serious while posting... than you are likely to be seen as just that!
Now desist from your villainy else I shall whollop you wholesomely with my oldest of pillows... sans pillow case! my irateness shall thusly be alleviated!
It almost defeats the purpose if the argument holds no steam, generates no heat, and is clearly a falsehood. I'm not saying Bronto's method is ideal (though I, for one who is familiar with his ways, can recognize it for what it is: a mockery), just that it's more interesting to see people who seem angry than it is to watch people pat each other on the back with gentle tomfoolery. It tends to bring out more in the way of actual discussion about strategus, as well.
Nay. Thine words evoke that which I have just bespoke. I shan't take thy poke, I amn't quashed 'neath thy silly yoke. Yon menace said here is folly.
The reason you still have a castle (and possibly the reason you ever had land in the first place) is chaos. They sent a few thousand troops to fight us and thousands more to reinforce the castle.
That poem took me like 4 minutes to write, I think it deserves more publicity.
When the Remnant leadership quit Strat, we were left with 2-3 semi active people. Can hardly do something worthwhile in Strat with that.
We were looking to get more action and some activity going on the map - FCC were cool people we all liked - they were looking for some players that know how to Strat - we joined. Simple as that. They did not promise us anything, we did not ask for anything, they simply took us in with open arms - and instantly treated us as equals, even though they did not have to.
And look where we are now: It's been a blast riding with the FCC and I am in your fief - you are not.
Hospitaller is in the middle of reforming (at least last I heard, last Thursday). Peppo's trying to clean up the faction and find out who's serious about contributing in Strategus. Once that happens, then we'll be reforming back to Hospitallers on the map and hopefully running our own show again.
I mean, New World Order represent.
Hmm sounds like another group of orange in the making?
All these shitty things you are typing, no one wants to hear!
I tell myself this everyday; sitting in front of a mirror!
Before the battle of Bulugur two emissaries from Les Chevaliers Occitans arrived in the FCC camps. We did not have time for talks so we asked Occitan_Kap10 and Occitan_Queen_Butterfly to travel along with the warband. Little did we know that as we marched to war they would gear up and fight with us.
As I stood among of dead, covered in blood, I looked to my left and saw the two LCO Diplomats smiling. They had a pile of bodies equal to the best of the BS Heroes. What a good place to start a new era. FCC and LCO have come to the table. Kesh and Arowaine have renewed their love.
As part of the deal FCC, LCO, and SS members are free to merc for or against each other however they wish with no hard feelings
FCC/LCO/SS ceasefire is in place till July 1st with option to renew the peace or resume the hostility.
Signed
BaleOhay
Well the treaty almost held until July 1... Almost.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=4205
Well the treaty almost held until July 1... Almost.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=4205
If Badplayer IS legitimately in FCC, then it gets interesting. That means, at the very least, FCC supports glitching, greifing and treachery, for their own gain. Which is probably the most hypocritical thing they could do at this point in the game, considering the HUGE stink they made after the Ahmerrad Debacle, the Duped Goods Scandal, and more recently, the Saxton Incident.
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It would have been nice if you had waited out the NAP.
P.S. I guess this means NAPs with Occitan/SS are only honoured as long as they are convenient.
And I suppose self-righteousness and underhanded tactic-shaming is reserved for when it's convenient for FCC.
So FCC is going to continue BADPLAYER's troll?
To capitalize on it after all the losses at Dhirim?
Taking advantage of retarded, nonsense-semantics to make the victims out to be the bad guys?
Except that as I mentioned, Occitan did it the day we made the NAP and sheltered every Hospitaller/Sparvico fief in the steppes and have had them under their banner to keep them safe with the NAP for the entirety of the treaty. So really, we are doing to you as you did unto us. That doesn't make it a non-shitty thing to do, but since it is just one fief and for less than a week I would say it is less shitty.
Right, but you guys don't have a claim to the castle. You accepted a known griefer to your faction, who later gets permabanned, and then say they broke the treaty.
You are literally not looking at this like an actual person.
The main difference between what Occitan did in the steppe and this Samarra business is that Samarra was lost due to a cheat that the perpetrator got banned for (as Andres has said) whereas Occitan sheltered weaker factions that (in my case anyhow) asked for shelter because of the worsening political climate.
FCC= Shelters cheaters (are we surprised?)
LCO= Shelters weaklings (I am one of them, before ya'll go getting uppity).
I would say that of the two the cheating business is much shittier. Only my opinion though, I am quite sure yours will differ.
Edit: also what havelle said.
I don't believe badplayer cheated. I believe he was gut reaction banned based on bias that results from his past history (which does include cheating). I don't pretend that this is a friendly happy nice move on my part but I had to make a decision on it and based on all the information I have I decided to do it. Also, I did think that Occ/SS would honour the NAP in this situation since we honoured it when it was them sheltering easy targets; one could also argue that Occitan made the peace deal with us entirely for the purpose of buying hosp and sparvico a month to rebuild. Arowaine was very convincing when talking peace with us in that he had no interest in fighting us this strat and that he liked us and that he didn't want to shelter hospitallers but was forced to and that he wanted us to wipe hospitallers out once the peace was up and that we could even extend the NAP after it expired and he would still kick hosp out so we could wipe them out for him... But call me crazy... I don't think he meant any of that. I guess I got a bit off topic there... but at any rate, I am still surprised that you guys wouldn't let us hide someone under our banner for a few days after you hid so many under yours for a month... granted it was Arowaine hiding people under his banner and not SS but since SS lets arowaine handle their diplomacy and the NAP was with Occ/SS combined, it seems fair to group them together.
The main difference between what Occitan did in the steppe and this Samarra business is that Samarra was lost due to a cheat that the perpetrator got banned for (as Andres has said) whereas Occitan sheltered weaker factions that (in my case anyhow) asked for shelter because of the worsening political climate.
FCC= Shelters cheaters (are we surprised?)
LCO= Shelters weaklings (I am one of them, before ya'll go getting uppity).
I would say that of the two the cheating business is much shittier. Only my opinion though, I am quite sure yours will differ.
Edit: also what havelle said.
Im pretty sure he was banned "because cmp thought he was already banned from before and just rectified it" not because anything he did was actually cheating. It was "an act of insubordination among the semenstorm ranks over pibbs leadership composing of doing exactly what arrowaine tells him to do."
Correct me if I am wrong - if my information is incorrect, I am getting this from second-hand sources.
No one buys your propaganda, it lacks any semblance of sincerity or honesty. Its as if you have some sort of learning disorder that prevents you from empathy and looking at things in ways other than black and white caricatures.
I don't believe badplayer cheated. I believe he was gut reaction banned based on bias that results from his past history (which does include cheating). I don't pretend that this is a friendly happy nice move on my part but I had to make a decision on it and based on all the information I have I decided to do it. Also, I did think that Occ/SS would honour the NAP in this situation since we honoured it when it was them sheltering easy targets; one could also argue that Occitan made the peace deal with us entirely for the purpose of buying hosp and sparvico a month to rebuild. Arowaine was very convincing when talking peace with us in that he had no interest in fighting us this strat and that he liked us and that he didn't want to shelter hospitallers but was forced to and that he wanted us to wipe hospitallers out once the peace was up and that we could even extend the NAP after it expired and he would still kick hosp out so we could wipe them out for him... But call me crazy... I don't think he meant any of that. I guess I got a bit off topic there... but at any rate, I am still surprised that you guys wouldn't let us hide someone under our banner for a few days after you hid so many under yours for a month... granted it was Arowaine hiding people under his banner and not SS but since SS lets arowaine handle their diplomacy and the NAP was with Occ/SS combined, it seems fair to group them together.
Im pretty sure he was banned "because cmp thought he was already banned from before and just rectified it" not because anything he did was actually cheating. It was "an act of insubordination among the semenstorm ranks over pibbs leadership composing of doing exactly what arrowaine tells him to do."
Correct me if I am wrong - if my information is incorrect, I am getting this from second-hand sources.
Except that you are sheltering someone who has been banned for cheating!
Also, holding LCO responsible for what someone that is not even in their faction did is just insane on the face of it. An alliance does not equate to control of the allies members, especially one that has been supplanted from his fief via a cheat.
From past dealings with SS we discovered that Arowaine is in charge of their diplomacy and strat decisions. So I think it is fair to connect the two.
If you acknowledge Kesh, he won't go away.
This is not a matter of diplomacy though. It is a matter of rectifying an error in the status quo due to someone cheating. The only reason it could possibly be misconstrued as a matter of diplomacy is because you sheltered a cheater.
The evidence is for posterity (aka anyone dumb enough to buy his propaganda) not so much for him. We can go back to ignoring him now, don't worry buddy. We will get through this. I promise. He can't hurt you anymore.
Also, holding LCO responsible for what someone that is not even in their faction did is just insane on the face of it. An alliance does not equate to control of the allies members, especially one that has been supplanted from his fief via a cheat.
Also, holding LCO responsible for what someone that is not even in their faction did is just insane on the face of it. An alliance does not equate to control of the allies members, especially one that has been supplanted from his fief via a cheat.
By this logic FCC could attack you and hospitaller also under the thought that you aren't actually in LCO.
Well, technically Sparvico (and I believe Hosp too) are in the LCO strat faction. Which I believe is what he was referring to. Whereas SS and LCO each have their own strategus factions.
I still don't believe he cheated to get the castle. So, I'm sheltering a rebel not a cheater.
By this logic FCC could attack you and hospitaller also under the thought that you aren't actually in LCO.
My open and honest opinion about this:
Experience shows that dealing with badplayer is bad business. Stay away from him like you would from the sun if it happens to shine into your basement window. Let's undo all dealings with him and go back to status quo.
shouldn't the FCC be the last ones to make a big deal out of smaller factions being absorbed by bigger powers?
And by your logic LCO could attack HG or Remnant because they are not properly FCC.
Then you are playing naive.
Nerds
So you intend to break your treaty with LCO for something that some guy in SS did, because of your gut feeling about a guy that has a history of griefing and has now been banned?
And by your logic LCO could attack HG or Remnant because they are not properly FCC.
Meanwhile in Dhirim:
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The treaty we made was with LCO and SS together. Arowaine spoke for SS with their permission; he made clear that any deal with LCO included SS. If SS broke the deal, does that not mean LCO did as well? as for us "intending to break our treaty" it's pretty hard to break a broken treaty, that being said we are already busy enough; of course LCO and SS were planning to jump us July 1 anyways but I guess they couldn't wait that long.
isn't "sheltering a rebel" a hostile act and thus breaking the ceasefire anyways lol
As for putting badplayer up to it... I hardly know the guy, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a person in this game who could put badplayer up to anything; he does what he does. Shik can probably give more insight to how badplayer does things than I can.
Sounds to me like you're looking for any excuse to break the treaty early. Wouldn't be to surprised if you put fraichedan up to it.
shouldn't the FCC be the last ones to make a big deal out of smaller factions being absorbed by bigger powers?It's the timing of it that's being argued.
isn't "sheltering a rebel" a hostile act and thus breaking the ceasefire anyways lol
I can see both sides of this one. Since we just went thru it with LL buying Saxtons fief. No one said anything to LL however about how bad it was and were happy to get the exp from the fight that was born from it... They focused on Saxton. Sort of funny how that same thing is not passed to the FCC. We had nothing to do with the event in question, but we can maybe have an exp filled night out of it.There is a major difference, LL payed cRPG shit for the fief, meaning that they would've lost their looms instead of just not recieved a present here, they also weren't aware that FCC didn't agree with deal.
Ohay
However, a more apt hypothetical comparison to what just happened would be the following: Suppose Saxton had, instead of defecting and selling his FCC-owned fief to LL, sold it to LCO or SEMENstorm while they were under the same conditions of this NAP. Or even merely left FCC and applied to LCO or SEMENstorm and got accepted. What would FCC have done, let them hold the fief and protect their defector? Does the fact that someone clicked 'accept' mean nothing in the case of a traitor?
Sheltering rebels has been a hostile act since the dawn of time. Even recently NATO declared war on Talaban Afghanistan because they were sheltering Al Qaida.
Lol, so what happened to not posting shit on the forums. You are a really low class, scumbag.I have lost what little respect I had left for you, you have no honor in your faction.
Arowaine Lady of LOC support completly the move that SS has done toward Fcc. Fcc did not kept their word and have made some shitty deal with smoothrich and badplayer in fact badplayer is ban and the story is quite close to saxton story in my eyes!
note to the entire fcc NICE TRY
I say the same to you guys!
Thank you for confirming that your word on NAPs means nothing. Does this mean all your other NAPs are equally worthless?
Arowaine Lady of LOC support completly the move that SS has done toward Fcc. Fcc did not kept their word and have made some shitty deal with smoothrich and badplayer in fact badplayer is ban and the story is quite close to saxton story in my eyes!
note to the entire fcc NICE TRY
I say the same to you guys!
We would have honoured our NAP. I know NAPs have historically meant nothing to you Canary, but we take our agreements seriously.
This may be a sketchy thing to do, but its really not as bad as LCO taking in the entire hosp faction along with Sparvico in order to grant them the protection of the NAP that they had JUST made with us after hosp had taken back a couple of villages.
Anyways; we will run badplayer's roster for him this battle since he cannot do it himself but win or lose, he is on his own after.
I had to make a decision at 3am just before going to bed with no one else online to consult so I went for it but enough people are against it and LCO/SS spit on NAPs and badplayer is ban for unrelated reasons as far as I can tell (cpm locked the thread where BP asked for a reason), so there isn't much point in keeping it going longer.
Big surprise King Grudge brings up our old history.
in the spoiler you are wrong. You have a ton invested in it. Getting allies against the team you are war with would be a boon.So, what you're saying is that if Canary was biased he should support you guys defending the fief so you will shit all over the NAP so he gets allies, which is like... ...pretty much exactly the opposite of what he is doing? Canary sure made a biased shitpost there.
So, what you're saying is that if Canary was biased he should support you guys defending the fief so you will shit all over the NAP so he gets allies, which is like... ...pretty much exactly the opposite of what he is doing? Canary sure made a biased shitpost there.
Zlisch is nothing ever happening in EU that you feel the need to have opinion on everything not related to your side? not a complaint just curious.I severely misread pretty much everything Canary said due to being extremely distracted and being bored enough to attempt to read a usually very boring and dry Canary textwall, I sincerely apologies if I have offended you, and I beg for your forgiveness.
but posting the Canary wall of text against us and urging conflict with us and LCO/SS then going on to say.... But I really have no dog in the show is false.
Ahh the Canary text wall. We all know it well. I swear he has a file on his PC with quotes itemized and cross referenced waiting to be pasted into an argument from the very beginnings of the internet.
hello everyone if you think i bugged the roster you are idiots because i'll tell you how to bug rosters:
first of all you have to be on defense and either yourself being attacked or ur fief, hire whoever on your side and then what you do is you leave your faction and join the enemies faction. you dont need to be accepted to it, just apply to it and it works. what happens is because you are in that faction, any battles in your page show up as if youre on the side of that faction. normally this doesnt matter at all however because youre being attacked by that faction, that battle shows up and you can hire/unhire for their side, leading to you being able to unhire their roster last second and ect.
you CANNOT do this if you are the one attacking, its literally impossible because when you are in the same faction and theres a battle between people of that faction, u can only hire for attackers not defenders. i used to troll with this by attacking LLJK members who refused to give me their things since it meant u couldnt hire for defense either so attackers always won (this seems to be fixed now though since u cant initiate attacks on people in the same faction, and joining a faction after attacking doesnt make that happen for some reason)
to clarify what actually happened: i got a friend to unhire the roster afaik not against the rules but obviously ban me because you know, people have a Grudge against me as evidenced from this thread.
maybe u apes should learn what the bug actually is before claiming i did it.
i would like apologies from everybody who questioned my integrity in this thread thank you.
also, a note from me, badplayer at first planned to bug the roster so he attacked, but forgot it didn't work as attacker, so he got a friend to unhire instead. the taking of the castle was within the rules as far as i can tell
So he admits to abusing the bug before.. But should be unbanned because he apparently didn't do it this time?
"just an fyi, i was banned for it.. and then unbanned by someone because they were friends with me (lol). i get unbanned for things that are legitimately bad but banned for things i dont even do. its just funny the terrible dev/admin bias and im not really protesting my ban so much as wondering if theres a legitimate reason other than "we dont like u"
Lol, Badplayer admitting to intentionally fuck over rosters then claims to have integrity; enjoy your ban. If this kind of bullshit isn't against the rules it should be. If we don't accept sky laddering during battles why would this not "be against the rules"? How is having your whole roster dropped by a dickhead not a worse way to fuck over this game then putting a widdle ladder on twop of another one? And from the sounds of it another person needs to get banned.
"in first strategus you could hire/unhire for rosters if you had any rank in a faction, even just rank 1, and it happened to templars a bunch iirc and Nothing Happened except they got owned 4 it. then you could understand it but nowdays you have to be what is it, rank 5? to change rosters. if your clan is incompetent enough to let someone untrustworthy be that rank they deserve everything they get, don't be such a baby, stuff like that makes the game actually fun and "intrigue/player" based rather than a boring farming game. i know some ppl on these forums prefer to look at spreadsheets than talk to their faction members though so having displeased high ranking members want to fuck you over is probably a large concern for u guys
Lol, Badplayer admitting to intentionally fuck over rosters then claims to have integrity; enjoy your ban. If this kind of bullshit isn't against the rules it should be. If we don't accept sky laddering during battles why would this not "be against the rules"? How is having your whole roster dropped by a dickhead not a worse way to fuck over this game then putting a widdle ladder on twop of another one? And from the sounds of it another person needs to get banned.
So he admits to abusing the bug before.. But should be unbanned because he apparently didn't do it this time?
Is this really news to you? Glitching and treachery is fine and funny until it happens to them. Though even Saxton's treachery wasn't near this level, I can't help but feel like this was inevitable with someone like smooth and badplayer (surprised they weren't banned permanently for the first incident) in your faction.
I have to say that I respect this boldness and fully expect it to happen to other clans who are only concerned with amassing as many people as they can, regardless of trust issues. It's all about standards, and when you're FCC and have none, then this kind of issue is bound to happen. May this serve as a lesson to all of us.
Right, but you guys don't have a claim to the castle. You accepted a known griefer to your faction, who later gets permabanned, and then say they broke the treaty.
You are literally not looking at this like an actual person.
I'll admit this was a shitty thing to happen to you, and I'd be pissed it it happened to my faction, but,
I'd like to see more things like this happen more often in this game of strategus. More drama & intrigue.
ummmm...why don't you(FCC) just give them (SS) the castle back? Wouldn't that be the logical thing to do? I mean any way you slice it they had their entire roster unhired before the fight and therefore all you had to do was have one person spawn and game over for them. If you attack it after you give it back, then it's a fair fight but seriously this entire situation wreaks of douchebaggery.
Hope it works out. If not well at least I tried. And look I have a new steam friend out of it. Unless the war makes Duster un-friend me. hmm
Gmnotutoo, I'm drunk right now and outside of all this whose clan are you in bullshit, I just wanted you to know, I will always be your protector. You meh dawg tutoo.
Pibby is a cool feller. He doesn't even seem overly upset with me... at least not so much that he will hate me forever. I love you Pibb.
LL didn't hand over the fief, gear, and troops so why should the FCC?
Did we get our gear, troops, and fief back when it happened to us? nope. We were told to shut up and enjoy the exp.
Yay, I'm done being muted.But it's not, it has been explained in this thread in all ways conceivable
It is the same level, stop being an anti-fcc nerd when it comes to rules.
Aaaaand that's where you're wrong. Pibb hates you......FOREVER....deal with it.
I never mentioned anything about a NAP Canary, I was pointing something out to two people.
If this situation was completely reversed, I'm 100% sure penguin would be in favor of the act simply because of how anti-fcc he is.
And yes this is the same thing, Penguin. Badplayer had a high-ranking friend un-hire the roster so Badplayer could steal it, then he gave it to their soon to be enemies. FCC never violated their treaty, they just benefited from internal SS drama unknowingly and are ransoming it because they know Arowaine is going to war with them and he is dragging SS along for the ride.
Havelle, that isn't the comparison you can make. Bale, Matey, and Kesh would be compared to LL in this situation. Badplayer would be compared to Saxton.
That was part of my point, that's why I pointed out the NAP. It's not the same, and you have to include it as a factor.
Probably true.
They took control of the castle after SS was very vocally distressed about what had happened. If FCC somehow thought taking badplayer into the faction wouldn't make them upset, they were being naive. Unknowingly? P'shaw.
However, there was not a NAP between FCC and LL in that situation, so it isn't a perfect comparison. Having to fight someone you're already at war with to get your stuff back is one thing, having to do it against a NAP partner is another.
Stop wall of texting me bro. You know the FCC not returning the fief is good drama, they never violated a NAP because they have yet to attack anyone. A legal loophole if you will.
It is different because Saxton was in the faction to begin with.
It is also different because FCC did not pay anything to gain the castle.
There is also the NAP to consider now, where with LL there was already a war going on.
The problem is that FCC was trying to pass off SEMENstorm getting their castle back as a breach of the NAP, while disregarding the problem with accepting the traitor into their faction in the first place, or that keeping the castle would itself be an affront to the NAP.
Props on digging this up.
I do very much dig this drama and intrigue, I wouldn't have posted here if there wasn't some pleasure in this thread. This sort of drama is the only thing that brings me to the forums.
I'm not sure if this is the sort of comparison you want to draw, though. Saxton was punished for it, he was ostracized from the strategus community and is attacked on site by many factions. Perhaps the same should be done to Bale, Matey, and Kesh.
They took control of the castle after SS was very vocally distressed about what had happened. If FCC somehow thought taking badplayer into the faction wouldn't make them upset, they were being naive. Unknowingly? P'shaw.
It really isnt worse than that what LCO did with hosp. they took in a group we are openly at war with who had just taken fiefs from us... and they did it for multiple fiefs and for a full month. I think one castle for 5 days isn't so bad.
Not true. I didn't see the thread calling it a bug until after I had already talked to badplayer.
Yes it is. You already had a NAP with them when SEMENstorm lost a fief to you. The NAP was not there when Hospitaller actually took over control of your fiefs. Certainly a dirty use of a NAP in their case, but in yours you literally took a fief that belonged to someone you already had a ceasefire with.
So you admit that you talked to him before the battle and conspired with him in the act of taking it???
My reaction to this entire thread.This is a pretty low quality dramacy thread, and I'm going to request that we amp up the power on this one.(click to show/hide)
EDIT:
Give me my green badge of courage!
@ Matey and Bale.
Sorry for being so Kesh about it (triple question marks should've given away my last post in particular). I just wanted to get in some gibes for something that one could bend out of shape as easily as the stuff that has previously been complained about here.
Leave being Kesh to Kesh. Most people know not to take him too seriously by this point.
I haven't been following this thread, but after I took Samarra back, I came and caught up. I'd like to throw in a couple points.
First, I'm pretty sure that when I launched my 3300 man attack towards samarra, the owner was in a faction called freichedan friggers or some other silly shit. I was literally on the doorstep when I noticed the faction name had changed to FCC. I don't know how it is where you're from, but where I come from, if both sides have released the hounds, you don't step in the ring unless you WANT to get bit.
Second, hookers and cocaine.
But it seems like the time for drama and talking is over. I've always preferred action anyhow.
fyi FCC the reason badplayer attacked the castle in the first place is because for like 3+ weeks SS has been planning to attack you the instant you start the war with chaos
SS and occitan are effectively the same clan so yeah, baleohay - arrowaine and that other occitan guy have been playing you for a while now
edit: also SS was fucked over from within (see: the Invisible Hand of Smoothrich), not because bugs or anything so there's no real reason for SS to be mad at anyone but their own clan members
I know bear. We have little birds that keep us up on the latest gossip. So we knew they were already gearing up to jump at us. We have our own plans so it is not really a big deal. Just happened a couple of days early. This was all proven out after Duster and I came to agreement just to have Arowaine lean in kill it with his disapproval.
I am inclined to believe that badplayer did not glitch the castle but instead he and smooth still have lots of pull at least with a few people in the SS clan.
So it will be war with more people. Ehh lets see how they pull off coordination of a long distance war. We can tell you from experience it is a lot harder than it seems.
To be fair, none of us can see shit in regards of what is happening around that castle even if it is in our faction. Also, it was in FCC for at least 16 hours before you attacked it.
I think if you attacked when it was not FCC we would not have been in charge of the roster.
When I let him in FCC the castle had not been attacked and there was no thread about it. Also we can't see your army next to it unless we are there, only bad player could say if your army was outside when he got ahold of me.
When I let him in FCC the castle had not been attacked and there was no thread about it. Also we can't see your army next to it unless we are there, only bad player could say if your army was outside when he got ahold of me.
Your attitude towards this is pretty disturbing. You knew what happened to the roster for the castle, you knew what happened was wrong, and you knew that by taking badplayer into FCC you would be taking a castle from SEMENstorm. You know what happens when you willfully buy a stolen TV, a stolen gun, or stolen car parts and get caught, right? You lose, Matey. You break the law, you break our NAP.
FCC then, instead of doing the right thing and returning the castle upon gaining control of it, attempted to use the castle as leverage against me. You all wanted to extend the NAP that you had already broken for another two weeks so that you'd have plenty of time to finish off Chaos and refocus to what you believed was coming.
You can draw parallels to similar situations, you can play down what happened, you can displace blame. But the bottom line is that FCC resorted to dirty tactics because it suited them. It's true that I spoke to Arowaine about the deal that Bale and I hammered out, and it's also true that the "deal" fell through after that. But you know what, I'm a bit of a softie. I really try to look for the best in people, often to my own disadvantage. It just took a bit of prodding from my buddy Arowaine for me to open my eyes to what was really going on.
FCC, I tried. I really tried. I tried to keep an open mind, to look at both sides. But you all decided to hand me shit on a platter with smiles on your faces.
It's on.
Bring it.(click to show/hide)
Your attitude towards this is pretty disturbing. You knew what happened to the roster for the castle, you knew what happened was wrong, and you knew that by taking badplayer into FCC you would be taking a castle from SEMENstorm. You know what happens when you willfully buy a stolen TV, a stolen gun, or stolen car parts and get caught, right? You lose, Matey. You break the law, you break our NAP.
FCC then, instead of doing the right thing and returning the castle upon gaining control of it, attempted to use the castle as leverage against me. You all wanted to extend the NAP that you had already broken for another two weeks so that you'd have plenty of time to finish off Chaos and refocus to what you believed was coming.
You can draw parallels to similar situations, you can play down what happened, you can displace blame. But the bottom line is that FCC resorted to dirty tactics because it suited them. It's true that I spoke to Arowaine about the deal that Bale and I hammered out, and it's also true that the "deal" fell through after that. But you know what, I'm a bit of a softie. I really try to look for the best in people, often to my own disadvantage. It just took a bit of prodding from my buddy Arowaine for me to open my eyes to what was really going on.
FCC, I tried. I really tried. I tried to keep an open mind, to look at both sides. But you all decided to hand me shit on a platter with smiles on your faces.
It's on.
#GOTTEM
. But you know what, I'm a bit of a softie. I really try to look for the best in people, often to my own disadvantage. It just took a bit of prodding from my buddy Arowaine for me to open my eyes to what was really going on.
FCC, I tried. I really tried. I tried to keep an open mind, to look at both sides. But you all decided to hand me shit on a platter with smiles on your faces.
if this city was not soshittyawsome we would have it already.
if this city was not so shitty we would have it already.
if this city was not so shitty we would have it already.
I think you underestimate how many chaos vassals are reinforcing this fief relentlessly.
No, we know. That has nothing to do with the quality of the map though. Those last 2 sections are just stupid. As Canary said, it doesn't promote good gameplay.
Also, we had exp ticks as low as 9k today. GG.
During the long seige of the inner keep
Gmno"WHY IS THE XP SO DAMN LOW"
Since we're talking about Chaos vs FCC now... it's been a whole week of Dhirrim sieges. FCC has thrown away 7 1500 man armies away in an attempt to burn through the tickets of Chaos. Due to their "tactics" each battle has been getting pushed further and further back in the hopes that a gear bugged roster might not hold the castle. This has not been the case, and now we face a battle Tonight at 1:38 EST! FCC will be judged tonight; will they relent for 1 day and allow the battles to be fought during primetime? Or will they allow their mad king to show all of NA who holds the title of "Sperglord"? I hope our friends in EU are watching, and choose the right side to fight on should it come to a nighttime defense.
On another note, wouldn't properly equipping your armies in plate and +3 weapons be better than wasting tickets with mid-high tier gear and +1 weapons? Though being a faction with so many troop farmers, I can see your approach to choosing gear over troops.
Both you and sandersson whined and begged us not to attack again in follow up wave at 3 am (we never intended to, we have been really good about doing primetime atatcks - the 1:40 am was fine because it was a saturday night. Saying it would hurt the community - I dont see either of you saying anything when chaos attacks illuminati after the siege at 3:30 am - I guess FCC can be the only bad guys and everyone fighting them are angels.
Also, simplest way to fix this map - make the doorway with unbreakable door and no flags inside it. Very similar to curaw - defenders would actually defend the front walls because its too risky to just fall back to the archways. The final flags are behind the second archway. Would make it on par with most of the cities out there - castles are the difficult ones while cities generate more gold usually but are less defensible - which makes sense. That whole inner keep nonsense doesn't make sense without makig it like an actual keep used in other city maps with some breakable walls instead of just a room leading to other rooms with no other way in and no way to destroy the keep.
Both you and sandersson whined and begged us not to attack again in follow up wave at 3 am (we never intended to, we have been really good about doing primetime atatcks - the 1:40 am was fine because it was a saturday night. Saying it would hurt the community - I dont see either of you saying anything when chaos attacks illuminati after the siege at 3:30 am - I guess FCC can be the only bad guys and everyone fighting them are angels.
Also, simplest way to fix this map - make the doorway with unbreakable door and no flags inside it. Very similar to curaw - defenders would actually defend the front walls because its too risky to just fall back to the archways. The final flags are behind the second archway. Would make it on par with most of the cities out there - castles are the difficult ones while cities generate more gold usually but are less defensible - which makes sense. That whole inner keep nonsense doesn't make sense without makig it like an actual keep used in other city maps with some breakable walls instead of just a room leading to other rooms with no other way in and no way to destroy the keep.
I don't even have kesh on steam nor do I talk to him. It seems like FCC needs a new commander. After 8 failed attempts, the strategy remains the same. It's time to bring in some creative minds. If I were attacking this castle I'd try to the end and not give up hope before the battle even began. My advice to FCC: Walking in with yawshawns and great mauls is not going to cut it anymore, bring in the progressives and outline an actual battle plan to take Dhirim.Well JC, Feel free to attack Dhirim and show us how it's done. And if you just can't get off without attacking FCC you could ask Chaos to give it to us so you can attack us in Dhirim and REALLY show us.
I don't even have kesh on steam nor do I talk to him. It seems like FCC needs a new commander. After 8 failed attempts, the strategy remains the same. It's time to bring in some creative minds. If I were attacking this castle I'd try to the end and not give up hope before the battle even began. My advice to FCC: Walking in with yawshawns and great mauls is not going to cut it anymore, bring in the progressives and outline an actual battle plan to take Dhirim.
Y'know, you keep talking all of this shit about their battle plans, but how many sieges have you personally won?
I'm 1-2. While FCC is maybe 3-20 in their war with chaos. What's Draculs fief taking resume by the way? Constructive criticism shouldn't be met with such disdain, thats FCC/Vassals problem in the first place. Open your minds and your hearts to my words.
According to the archives your only wins are from:
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=1205#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=1205 (taking a village with 8 defenders)
and the one time taking of Dashigba, which I was there for. (maybe you speak of strat 2 as well?)
I'm still a firm believer that everyone's got their own strategy/mindset about castle sieges. Just because you have x amount of battles under your belt doesn't make you more or less qualified to give your opinion on something.
I was just wondering why you don't seem to adhere to your own logic since you seem always eager to offer your insight on strat matters when you haven't really been relevant in strat affairs for many months.
And on that note, Ulburban was initially my first choice for my sneak attack on the free traders, but ultimately ended up choosing Tismirr for...other reasons. Perhaps you would heed my advice had you seen the mighty disciples in action. There is always time for that though.
I'm 1-2. While FCC is maybe 3-20 in their war with chaos. What's Draculs fief taking resume by the way? Constructive criticism shouldn't be met with such disdain, thats FCC/Vassals problem in the first place. Open your minds and your hearts to my words.
I dont see either of you saying anything when chaos attacks illuminati after the siege at 3:30 am - I guess FCC can be the only bad guys and everyone fighting them are angels.
Well, there was a battle initiated at 3am, only we didn't do it. Get those EU mercs ready for a 10am fight.
You are the bad guys here because opinions.
My god, man. The sieges were called off! It was done. He's just a lone soldier trying to get home to his family before the evil French wave attacks, you heartless bastard! Just as we give you a moment of peace, you lash out for more bloodshed!
Edit: I am also stating this very clearly for you, Jesus. If you threaten our allies with war, you wont just be fighting them. What you do has repercussions for yourself and your 'friends'.
Jesus is a lone wolf on strategus, what he does is in no way connected to anyone.
Thanks for holding off on initiating another attack on dhirim for a bit (or a long while, which I would personally do, and wouldn't be an act of cowardice but really just good sense). I really mean it. I don't know who called that shot, but if it was Kesh, then I apologise for being rude to you in steam-chat. I think you started it, but I've said before that avarice and animosity does not need to be met with more from the opposite party. Not holding to that makes me a hypocrite. Maybe my clan-mates penchant for talking shit (which I still think is hilarious, don't get me wrong) has caused me to do the same.
Just saying, but this thread is called Summer Lovin' , not much love going around.
He's been chilling in TS with us lately, he seems like an okay guy that is meshing well with us.
love you saxton :wink: :rolleyes:
love you kesh :) :rolleyes: :twisted:
Yeah no worries - having to attack a poorly designed map 8 times and then having someone tell me how we should fight it or attack after they themselves dumped 3K troops into it is not usually a way to get on my good side. We are pretty good on attacks with the vast majority of our major attacks being during primetime this strategus, it just came across as a bit condescending coming from you. We know what we are doing, this is the first castle or city that we have attacked and haven't eventually taken. We had considered attacking at noon and hoping to get more people on defending roster who hadn't fought on this map 6 times defending already, wouldn't be as quick to listen to orders to bitch mode run back to the broken keep rather than fight and get more high pingers tking in that shield wall, but didn't feel that was the right way to win it even though most of our guys were tired of fighting that map merc_mustikki designed (main reason we actually stopped) and wouldn't have minded more eu mercs replacing them.
We could also have attacked 700 man armies and gotten similar kills (kept doing better than 1 to 1 before chokepoints as attackers and even did a 1 for 1 last battle at the first 2 chokepoints) - but there are 28 guys with the chaos tag in Dhirim on strat map turtling up similar to what grey order did with uxhal on eu side where they can recruit almost as many troops as they lose each day (chaos actually pretty similar to eu in that way - very good at turtling). Sadly since we cant take this fief no one probably will and we will have a completely wasted fief on an inactive faction rather than an active one. Really want to keep strategus fun by getting more fiefs for active factions and just getting rid of inactives who just take up space - makes for far more battles and wars. Its a lot more fun game when people actually add to the strategus map - part of the problem in EU - too many factions turtling up and going inactive - though to be fair Chaos has actually initiated more attacks than the biggest faction on NA side based on the recent charts page. (No wonder they have 74k troops in garrisons alone, 80K or so a few days ago)
Simplest solution - remove flags in inner keep - would make it on par with every city on the map and defenders would actually have to defend their outer walls and more strenuously defend the archways instead of just running back to the keep as soon as possible.
Canary, just give up your fief, its been decided that you don't deserve to play strategus.
Just saying, but this thread is called Summer Lovin' , not much love going around.
LOVE IS OVER
I forgot all castles must be able to be rolled.
Artyem, if you are going to nerf Dhirim, be sure to nerf all castles(not just the castles of your friends enemies).
Last time I checked, though, castles and cities were made to be hard to take, and Dhirim is a good example of a Linear Castle.
By the way we might have a fief or sale - you wouldn't happen to have a MW xbow?
Can't win? Call the game broken and demand it gets changed.
Enemy doing well? Say they don't deserve to play.
But seriously, Kesh, stop being so condescending yourself and stop being such a poor sport about this. I agree that the map is overpowered, though perhaps not to the same extent you do, and I agree that Jesus taunting you by calling your tactics bad is obnoxious and dumb, but you're getting bent out of shape and insulting the wrong people in the most outlandish and inappropriate ways.
Horrible turtling Chaos equally as bad as EU turtles with 21k tickets in their fiefs auto-recruiting going inactive never fighting and not playing the map correctly... go to hell with that. We've got many of our members inside Dhirim because it's our last stronghold (the weird Tadsamesh/Desire situation notwithstanding), where the heck else are they gonna go? You guys own pretty much the entire northern half of the map. We spread our resources out, at the beginning, relatively evenly among our fiefs and players. We didn't start favoring any one fief heavily for defense until we found out which ones we could reasonably hold for a longer duration, mostly because we didn't lose them right away and they were what we had left to work with.
I hope you also haven't forgotten the times we did attack your fiefs, something which has happened far too sparingly, I think we'd both agree. Or the times more recently when we took armies we could have used turtling harder and turned them into the field against you. Is that really what constitutes an "inactive faction" and a "wasted fief"? If you think we're going to rest on our laurels just because we have a strong defensive center you're mistaken. I'll try not to "take up too much space" with my one goddamn town (and one village - my faction does have several active people, you know, hardly an unfair proportion of players to fiefs).
The reason you do well at the early stages of the sieges against Dhirim is because that half of the map is horrible for defense. The front half, the walls and the streets with the center courtyard, are absolutely awful to try and hold. You can ladder into the left tower, and onto the archer shack between it and the gatehouse where we can't stand safely, and drop down behind defenders with ease. Trying to hold the walls or the gatehouse leads us into getting entirely surrounded, and eventually the walls break and attackers get into the streets from both sides, where the only chokepoints turn into new ways to get backstabbed from. It's like a tiny field battle where the attackers are completely covered before they creep up at you from three sides. The map overall is too easy in front and too hard in back for attacking.
You will hopefully notice that we never immediately start the battles by falling back into the chokepoints beyond the archways, and that we never start using the superior rear ones first; we go through each one in succession. The fact that it's been a matter of less than ten minutes in some of those fights before the gatehouse is lost is absolutely ridiculous. Once it's lost, there's nothing left to defend but those archways and, eventually, the keep itself.
I mean, I can understand the frustration, but castles there were indeed designed that way. If you were able to get on those walls, what would you do, though? Suicide off them, put ranged up there? What about when we retreated into the keep and spammed rondels?
Bring it.
Fun Fact:
Penguin (aka JC) was kicked out of the FCC for being too unstable and extreme of a personality to deal with.
He was viewed by leadership as a problem player, by the FCC. Just let that sink in for a while.
What? I left on my own accord. Prior to that Murdertron (nothing against him) was always asking me when I was going to get involved in strat for FCC. I said I had no plans and wanted to do my own thing. I left on good terms because we weren't really benefiting eachother. Get your facts straight before you try make up stories to slander other peoples character gmno. But yeah if you really want to believe I'm " too unstable" even for Kesh go right ahead.
If someone wants to get a collection of fiefs that are fucked up (Ichamur, Dhirim, etc) then I'd love to try and revamp them. Castles like Rindyar and Knudarr are bad ass because they're placed in a legitimate location. Both are on top of hills, are relatively small and easy to maneuver (Uhhun Castle is similar) and the walls are tough to ladder on. The difference is that you CAN ladder on to the walls, you CAN take different routes and approaches.
Dhirim is not bad ass because it's been placed in a legitimate location, it's in a huge open field and only 1/3 of it is surrounded by real walls. The rest of it is surrounded by invisible walls and leads to the most out of place and completely impregnable inner keep I've ever seen.
Yes, castles are supposed to be hard to take, but they are not by any means supposed to be this linear. Once we take the walls it's a one way grind that at most earns us 15k xp per tick, and I for one am not okay with that. Try fighting as an attacker and you'll see what I mean.
Off topic, and I apologize for this, but with all this castle design talk, etc...............
What is required for doing castle designs?? Is it a 3d program where you design it yourself, a 2d drawing/design submitted, etc, etc..........
I'm just curious.
Thank you!
What was wrong with Sargoth?
@ gmoont Except I have never even been in FCC's strat faction. Look at all my battles, when was I ever flying the FCC flag? You claim I was removed for attacking people in strat, but why would it come up as Jesus and Company in the battle tab instead of FCC? You're not lying, you're just parroting fabricated information. I don't know you and have never spoken to you, but if you did know me you would know I don't take computer games seriously enough to become "obsessed" over it. If you lose sleep over this game that's all fine and dandy, but don't assign your own faults unto others. If you really are getting upset over words said during strat battles (which is friendly competition), then maybe you should quit watching your super serious animes and understand how human interaction works in real life. If you're not having fun in battles, then what are you even doing playing?
And if Dhirrim is to be changed, so should Sargoth, Vyincourd, Samarra, and a myriad of other castles with unbreakable walls. There should be a standard with all castle/cities, not just when one faction decides to complain about it after losing army after army.
@ gmoont Except I have never even been in FCC's strat faction. Look at all my battles, when was I ever flying the FCC flag? You claim I was removed for attacking people in strat, but why would it come up as Jesus and Company in the battle tab instead of FCC? You're not lying, you're just parroting fabricated information. I don't know you and have never spoken to you, but if you did know me you would know I don't take computer games seriously enough to become "obsessed" over it. If you lose sleep over this game that's all fine and dandy, but don't assign your own faults unto others. If you really are getting upset over words said during strat battles (which is friendly competition), then maybe you should quit watching your super serious animes and understand how human interaction works in real life. If you're not having fun in battles, then what are you even doing playing?
And if Dhirrim is to be changed, so should Sargoth, Vyincourd, Samarra, and a myriad of other castles with unbreakable walls. There should be a standard with all castle/cities, not just when one faction decides to complain about it after losing army after army.
Here is the same thing with Jesus. I say you attack HG/remnant under an FCC banner at least once, sadly at this time there is no way to confirm or deny the argument. If you can prove to me without a shadow of a doubt I am wrong, I'll apologize. I have no problem admitting my mistakes.
I didn't know loving ninjas, rogues, thieves, etc could be a basis for judgement over how people socialize in real life. If someone repeatedly flings bullshit at my friends are you suggesting I sit quietly and do nothing? Because I find so much fault in that theory.
I enjoy the game perfectly fine, thanks for your concern.
Negative, I have never been in FCCs strat faction and I'm willing to bet on that. I wager 1 million strat gold that I have never attacked anyone flying under the FCC banner, nor have I ever been in FCCs strat faction or meddled in their affairs. If devs want to look into this silly matter then they are welcome to. As to artyem, that clearly was (me joining the Free Traders) a joke. After all I was as you say, still claiming war against them. The fact that you guys seriously considered my application gives me a few chuckles though, thanks for that.
Any Astralis could probably vouch that I was under the name "Jesus and Company" (I used their teamspeak for most of my early battles). I have served no master but the one above and thats been my motto since strat 3. Quit trying to besmirch my name and admit your mistakes, its not too late.
@ gmoont Except I have never even been in FCC's strat faction.
What? I left on my own accord. Prior to that Murdertron (nothing against him) was always asking me when I was going to get involved in strat for FCC. I said I had no plans and wanted to do my own thing. I left on good terms because we weren't really benefiting eachother. Get your facts straight before you try make up stories to slander other peoples character gmno. But yeah if you really want to believe I'm " too unstable" even for Kesh go right ahead.
Prior to that Murdertron (nothing against him) was always asking me when I was going to get involved in strat for FCC. I said I had no plans and wanted to do my own thing.
Actually, Gmno, he NEVER was FCC, as I remember when he first started strat. I told him how to apply to battles and things like that. Gave him initial strat tutoring, etc. If I'm correct, this was during the FCC invasion of the desert, which is when he started.
Also Gmno, you should re-read those posts.
He admitted he was. Please try again.
Dude, he was talking about the cRPG ladder clan. He was in FCC's cRPG ladder, but not the strategus faction.
The subject of the reply is the topic of him being in a strat faction. If he intended to defend himself based on this allegation he would have said something along the lines of "I was never in the strat faction, but I left the c-rpg clan under my accord".
Either way he attacked HG/Remnant while wearing the FCC banner, whether it is c-rpg or strat (or both) and was removed for it. I am either partially correct here or completely correct and the only people who really know the truth are JC and the FCC leadership.
Either way he attacked HG/Remnant while wearing the FCC banner, whether it is c-rpg or strat (or both) and was removed for it.
Actually, Gmno, he NEVER was FCC, as I remember when he first started strat. I told him how to apply to battles and things like that. Gave him initial strat tutoring, etc. If I'm correct, this was during the FCC invasion of the desert, which is when he started.
Also Gmno, you should re-read those posts.
Except that I wasn't. Which was my original point. I left (the crpg ladder) with no bad blood between FCC and I. As far as being "demoted", I was unaware, but there is one way to validate that claim, go into the clan journal, it tracks EVERYTHING that happened in the clan, so just ctrl+f JesusChrist and tell me what you find.
Right now you are all witnessing Kesh caught in a lie. How low can you stoop in this game? If you wanted to discredit your enemies, throwing your own members under the bus is not advisable. I feel sorry for gmno for obviously being misled by Kesh. Here's my convo with murder who apparently was the one who convinced me to join FCC in strat(surely he would know if I was in it):(click to show/hide)
This is why diplomacy is a joke now. All of this poo-flinging should be in spam.
This is why diplomacy is a joke now. All of this poo-flinging should be in spam.
What? You mean you don't like being treated like the way you treat others? I beg your forgiveness please.
It turns out I was only partially right. Penguin was in the c-rpg clan and left that part on his own. Penguin applied for the FCC strat faction, attacked HG, and then was rejected before ever being accepted. So he actually did fly the FCC's colors while attacking HG both in strat and in c-rpg, but due to the stupid recruiting system he wasn't "technically" in the fcc. He just made himself to look like it.
Well, it works. I wouldn't consider a rank 0 part of the faction, but because of that shitty bug that makes it so that you get all faction shit and see their armies, etc, I'd classify it as Partial.
SO: You were only right in that he had the colors, but nothing more! See, battles tab on strat does help :D
Daruvian got unmuted....back to the forum wars! :twisted:
Well, it works. I wouldn't consider a rank 0 part of the faction, but because of that shitty bug that makes it so that you get all faction shit and see their armies, etc, I'd classify it as Partial.
SO: You were only right in that he had the colors, but nothing more! See, battles tab on strat does help :D
Daruvian got unmuted....back to the forum wars! :twisted: Daruvian, are you a fan of dueling banjos or squealing pigs?
It turns out I was only partially right. Penguin was in the c-rpg clan and left that part on his own.So you were not right at all.
Penguin applied for the FCC strat faction, attacked HG, and then was rejected before ever being accepted. So he actually did fly the FCC's colors while attacking HG both in strat and in c-rpg, but due to the stupid recruiting system he wasn't "technically" in the fcc. He just made himself to look like it.
What? No shakespeare fans here? Such unrefined rabble. I guess the best way to get a +1 around here is penis and fart jokes. :P
Oh, and I'm a bit late to this party but I just wanted to post this to BaleOhay, Kesh, and Matey:
Your logic that SS reclaiming their castle that was lost by dishonest means from a rebel who joined your faction as a token rank 0 member to cause drama constituted a breach of a Non-Aggression Pact was literally the most retarded, asinine, unbelievable, idiotic, narrow-sighted load of snail shit I have ever read on these forums.
Oh, and I'm a bit late to this party but I just wanted to post this to BaleOhay, Kesh, and Matey:
Your logic that SS reclaiming their castle that was lost by dishonest means to a rebel who joined your faction as a token rank 0 member to cause drama constituted a breach of a Non-Aggression Pact was literally the most retarded, asinine, unbelievable, idiotic, narrow-sighted load of snail shit I have ever read on these forums.
clearly you never read what you write for this to be tops.
also if you read anything I wrote on that subject you would have seen I disagreed with what happened and tried to remedy it with Duster.
The walls can not be damage, as they are wooden and the devs have not put the final touches on them yet. Besides that, its perfectly fine place to attack. Maybe a little too much room for the attackers to hit the walls from, its very spread out.
Missed this reply in the sea of posts. That's not really a problem that map makers can address. It would just be stupid to add stone walls to nordic holdings. They need to adjust catapults to make them useful on all maps. Honestly, what were thinking? Who decided that a giant, flying rock couldn't damage wood?
Who decided that a giant, flying rock couldn't damage wood?
On another note: I hope M:BG will support flinging livestock carcasses at fortifications like in Stronghold... really could use that right about now.
Well I don't know who said what exactly, and I'm not going back to look, so I'm going to do the reasonable thing and just downvote you without caring whether you're right or wrong.
Both you (Jesus) and sandersson whined and begged us not to attack again in follow up wave at 3 am (we never intended to, we have been really good about doing primetime atatcks - the 1:40 am was fine because it was a saturday night. Saying it would hurt the community - I dont see either of you saying anything when chaos attacks illuminati after the siege at 3:30 am - I guess FCC can be the only bad guys and everyone fighting them are angels.
Bringing this up again because stones shan't go unthrown in this community:
It's like that time Ostulor had his nighttime set to end at 11pm. We were asked by Kesh to change it and we obliged because, hey, people like attacks to happen when they attack, and I for one think nighttime is a knavery.
Then they get this guy Legs, you see. He's got his nighttime perfectly set to cover up the FCC's own self-proclaimed holy touted "primetime" which is apparently the only reasonable time to fight battles at for anyone in North America. Anyway, it was set for 7pm to 3am Central.
Double standards? "Payback" for payback? Bait we took? Player error? At least he doesn't own a fief? Incoming excuses parade? I guess we'll find out.
Lol, thank the new broken nighttime setting - most people havent been able to set it properly because its relatively unknown among the new website changes. You probably should give it a day or so before attacking. Don't worry you are now part of an allianc of about 80% of the strategus players on the map - i'm sure you will have no problem outnumbering us with na mercs :wink:. Chaos and Frisian players don't sleep. 10 bucks says more than 6 chaos and frisians will show up each and based on their "faction size" thats over a third of yours and their players - not going to lie I'm a little jelly my faction with so many players doesn't have the same number of no-lifers - I know I'm completely exhausted trying to keep up with you guys.
I hope you get wiped off the map completly so i can continue to listen to your whining about being outmerced. It's not like we are gonna start show sympathy for someone behaving like you.
I hope you get wiped off the map completly so i can continue to listen to your whining about being outmerced. It's not like we are gonna start show sympathy for someone behaving like you.
Lol, thank the new broken nighttime setting - most people havent been able to set it properly because its relatively unknown among the new website changes. You probably should give it a day or so before attacking. Don't worry you are now part of an allianc of about 80% of the good strategus players on the map - i'm sure you will have no problem outnumbering us with better na mercs :wink:. I don't sleep. 10 bucks says more than 6 chaos and frisians will show up each and based on their "faction size" thats over a third of yours and their players - not going to lie I'm a little jelly my faction with so many players doesn't have the same number of no-lifers - I know I'm completely exhausted trying to keep up with you guys.
Kesh alone somehow manages to overshadow all the old hospitaller retards like lordark, it really is amazing.
Well with dwindling number and lack of actives we had no other choice. And we thank arrowaine for helping us remain so we can make a comeback at some point even tho we won't be able to rise to our former glory anytime soon since most members have moved on to other games.
I can't remember us sperging like crazy tho unlike you kesh, and you have been for last few weeks. Please get a grip of yourself and spend some time outside the forum.
Sorry i guess we cant all hide under someone's else peace agreement by joining their faction like a little kid going under his mother's skirt to stop from getting wiped out :wink: :twisted: :rolleyes: :lol:
Not sure if you're talking about hospitaller or all the clans that did that with your faction....
Lordark.As bad as those guys were Kesh are worse.
Devestated.
Huseby (back in the day)
many others.
Hospitallers had no shortage of forum spergs in the past.
Lordark.
Devestated.
Huseby (back in the day)
many others.
Hospitallers had no shortage of forum spergs in the past.
What is the point of pointing out old sperglords in hosp? Kesh is by far the most obnoxious person even compared to those and it is him i made a remark about. Not FCC, not you, not gristle but him. Him in particular. Should be pretty obvious to everyone.
but you said "I can't remember us sperging like crazy tho unlike you kesh, and you have been for last few weeks. Please get a grip of yourself and spend some time outside the forum."
And I CAN remember hosp sperging like crazy. not sayin you guys still are or anything, im not offended or picking a fight, just figured i would mention that I definitely CAN remember sperging hospitallers.
All that and you havn't read anything i wrote. Noone has sperged this hard. Wich was my point. Please read so i don't have to type the same thing 3 posts in a row so it gets in. Also, what does it matter if someone went bat shit crazy last year? Let's stick to this year at least shall we?
Matey tends to ignore pretty much everything he reads. If Kesh is the mouth of FCC, then he is the eyes.
no,
bale is the brain
matey is the eyes
gristle is the ears
holiday is the balls
gristle is the ears
Is this good or bad?
All that and you havn't read anything i wrote. Noone has sperged this hard. Wich was my point. Please read so i don't have to type the same thing 3 posts in a row so it gets in. Also, what does it matter if someone went bat shit crazy last year? Let's stick to this year at least shall we?
You keep missing my point though. You suggested that hospitallers has never had spergs... but it has.
Quote where i said that.
And yes devestator is a sperging tard sometimes. He has almost made me quit the clan a few times due to his spergingsprees on ts. It is not relevant for this discussion tho since we're talking about another sperglord.
I am a sperg.We know...
Sperg
an aspergers person throwing a tantrum
to have an infantile shitfit about something completely arbitrary
He got banned from the IRC channel after sperging at the admins D:
2. Sperg
142 up, 41 down
a. When someone gets all fussy about how details get overlooked or if something makes no sense, like someone with Asperger's Syndrome
b. A tantrum about a percieved injustice, a la someone with Asperger's
New Samarra Castle
Lord Joe stood behind his Champion Courser on the stairs leading into the dungeons. "My love," he said, "It's two fucking steps."
"B-but I have four legs. I'm not sure how this is supposed to work." She put a leg forward, then hastily brought it back.
She was a good horse, but vertical movement could be a problem.
Joe squeezed past her sweat-coated flank . "Just let me know when you're ready, alright?"
He walked into a long, stone hallway. It was dark and cold, despite the flickering torches. Waiting for him was the leadership of the Free Companies. Great lords, all of them, in glittering mail and finely woven heraldry.
Bale muttered something about "nutcase" and "horse". Kesh, her hair lighting up the dungeon with it's glory, seemed worried.
Also present, much to Joe's surprise, was Lord Tydeus. Tydeus hadn't been present during their seizure of the castle, and shortly thereafter the armies of SEMEN STORM had surrounded the place, yet somehow the warrior had gotten in. Joe smiled at the dour group before him. "What'cha need?"
Gristle stepped forward, he seemed less angry than he was sad. He fiddled his little plate-shaped hat. "Joe, we need you to, uh, interrogate a political prisoner. BADPLAYER. He has resisted us, but perhaps you can do something to get him to talk." He glanced over Joe's shoulder. "You and your, erm, maiden."
Kesh cleared her throat, and a man's voice came out. "He glitched the fucking castle, and we need to know how... So we can do the same. This wizardry could help us defeat Hospitaller and their vassals: Occitan and SEMEN STORM, once and for all"
Joe nodded. "I'm gay."
"I knew we could count on you."
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Joe and Champion Courser strode into the interrogation room. BADPLAYER hung from the wall by chains, his sweating, shivering, form shocking to behold. His neckbeard hung to the floor, devoid of its usual luster.
"BADPLAYER--sorry for shouting that--you've been a naughty boy."
"Joe? Is that a horse? Oh God, what the fuck are you going to do to me now?"
"We," Joe said, "Are going to talk."
"I've got nothing to say to you. I thought you were going to protect me." He sounded breathless. The Terrortops must have had his way with him.
Joe looked to his horse, smiling. "Honey, I think it's time for the Halibut." He strode to a chest in the corner and retrieved a large fish.
"Are you talking to your horse? Jesus Christ."
Joe put on his fish-beating face and leapt across the room. He fell upon BADPLAYER, smiting him with savage blows.
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In a room next door, the leaders of FCC sat in a circle. They could hear the sound of wet fish-slaps through the wall.
Gristle was pacing. "He's going to kill him. We can't do this. Not when BADPLAYER came to us in friendship."
Tydeus spoke, "We need to know. I can't just ban him on a hunch."
WITCHCRAFT said, "I could try some potions. They don't work, but BADPLAYER--sorry for yelling--doesn't know that.
Kesh frowned. "They work sometimes. Remember that siege and the necromancy?" She looked suddenly worried. "Wait. What if--?"
"OH GOD YOU'RE A WIZARD!"
Joe's cry filled the dungeon, along the neighing of his triple-loomed Courser.
The leaders of FCC and Tydeus leapt to their feet, drawing swords and rushing into the hall. Gristle fumbled with the keys to the interrogation room. The sound of scuffling feet and grunting could be heard on the other side. The door clicked, and the brave lords rushed in.
What the saw was terrible.
Joe and his horse were locked in a deadly struggle with BADPLAYER'S neckbeard. It had grown to twice its normal length, and had a life of its own. Joe wrestled desperately for control of his Halibut.
The lords of FCC and Tydeus fell upon the dread neckbeard with fierce battle-cries, hacking and grappling. BADPLAYER was laughing, cackling, his beard growing more and more.
Suddenly, the fell neckbeard was on fire, a torch caught in its Mountain Dewy tangles. Somebody yelled "GOTTEM COACH!"
It was over. BADPLAYER was consumed by the flames, his last utterance an angry shriek.
Tydeus, panting, sheathed his sword. He looked at the confused faces around him. "I'll, uh, talk chadz about that. Let's... Let's just say I banned him, for now." This was met with muttered agreements.
Bale shook his great, horned head. "Why did we fucking do this in the first place?"
((This is how I spend my days off now))