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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Micah on May 24, 2013, 09:34:05 pm

Title: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Micah on May 24, 2013, 09:34:05 pm
honest question here! Since i havent played the class by myself and a lack of imagination, i have to rely on extern opinions ;P
i would like to ask you , what you find most exiting about playing this class

how you imagine your role in the game (as in: which "heroic" image is comparable?)

whats the thing you can do best as HX

which situations you find most challenging or rewarding

which attributes and abilities of your class you value highly

what makes playing HX worthwhile, recomendable or any other points you would like to add ? (e.g.: why not playing HA instead ?)


please try to be as short and concise as possible, thanks very much for taking the time =)
no ballance discussions, no buff-nerf comments! i will report
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Strudog on May 24, 2013, 09:36:11 pm
because its OP
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on May 24, 2013, 09:40:27 pm
Quote from: strudog on May 24, 2013, 09:36:11 pm
because its OP
/thread
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 24, 2013, 09:50:12 pm
OP how?  I don't think they are very effective at helping determine which team wins the round...unless they have masterworked gear or are Rohypnol, I don't think most HX are very effective, more of a nuisance. 
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Malaclypse on May 24, 2013, 10:36:26 pm
You ride around at Mach 10 firing bullets of pure love which makes you feel sort of like a fighter pilot, and oftentimes you get to piss off entire servers at once by making them wait as you trot around 5 helpless melee as the last alive (which some people find fun, probably).
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 24, 2013, 10:43:14 pm
Quote from: WarLord on May 24, 2013, 09:52:14 pm
I didn´t play cRPG for almost 2 weeks now.

I just wanted to make a few nice rounds this evening before playing other games again.

This is what I get (with a 60 head armor helmet, 21 str and 7 IF) 30 !!!! seconds after the round start:

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Fuck this game, thanks for ruining it HX. Back to other games again ..

As Curly Bill Brocius so eloquently put it:   "Well.....bye!"

Or you could, learn to play and stop crying.  This may surprise you but, horse xbows can get to your spawn pretty fast, and they can hit you from a distance that you can't reach them if you're melee.  Are you new to warband?  Or just intentionally ignorant?

"Wahhh I was riding around on my horse and a long bowman killed me...fuck this game"

"Wahhh I was running around in the pack of melee and a thrower hit me from out of nowhere and I died...fuck this game"

"Wahhh I was beating up someone in the melee scrum and a dirty piker came out of nowhere and killed me...fuck this game"

"Wahhh I was reloading my crossbow and I got lanced in the back...fuck this game"
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on May 24, 2013, 10:57:57 pm
For Pure HX:

Pros:
+Choosing when and where to engage
+Excellent Mobility
+Drive-By Action
+Making the sperglings rage

Cons:
-One-shotted often
-Low damage (without looms)
-Useless in melee
-Vulnerable when dismounted




Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on May 24, 2013, 11:28:00 pm
Quote from: Little Lord Lollipop on May 24, 2013, 10:57:57 pm
-One-shots often
This should be on pros.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: bavvoz on May 24, 2013, 11:34:40 pm
The softness of those pink panties that comes with that class?

Sry i just couldnt resist!
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Ronin on May 24, 2013, 11:39:09 pm
I'd compare mounted ranged to foot ranged.

-Mounted ranged has better skirmishing capabilities and have more mobility/speed on the battlefield. But it suffers from fire rate and therefore (and maybe some accuracy) loses the ranged competition in the long run compared to foot ranged.
-Mounted ranged also has another weapon compared to the ground ranged, which is his/her horse

That's how it is supposed to be in theory after all, but imo this is what makes mounted ranged fun. The pros.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Leesin on May 24, 2013, 11:44:19 pm
Because it's the no-where-near-as-nerfed version of the HA.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Gurnisson on May 24, 2013, 11:50:26 pm
Quote from: Micah on May 24, 2013, 09:34:05 pm
how you imagine your role in the game (as in: which "heroic" image is comparable?)

whats the thing you can do best as HX

which situations you find most challenging or rewarding

which attributes and abilities of your class you value highly

what makes playing HX worthwhile, recomendable or any other points you would like to add ? (e.g.: why not playing HA instead ?)

1. Being US Cavalry. There's no rifle in the game so I'll have to stick with the light xbow. After they made light xbow 2 slots I can't use my old sabre which was important to the look though :(
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2. Take down the horses of light cavalry and harass infantry.
3. Going up against ranged players head on. Means a one-shot if I miss and my enemy hits. Quite the rush
4. Maneuverability and speed
5. Bow doesn't resemble a rifle in any way, and would remove the point for me to play horse ranged. It's also fun and, contrary to popular belief, a really tough class to master.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Teeth on May 24, 2013, 11:51:20 pm
The trollfactor
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Canuck on May 24, 2013, 11:54:52 pm
Quote from: Teeth on May 24, 2013, 11:51:20 pm
The trollfactor
Yep, I think the majority of them just enjoy being able to ride around fast and shotgun enemies. That and they like the tears.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Thomek on May 24, 2013, 11:56:32 pm
Because pissing other players off is fun!

I can honestly sign that myself, you like it too, deep inside, or up in the open!

Point is, allowing too easy trolling is like pissing your pants to keep warm in the winter.

It's bad for the community and playerbase as a whole.

Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Falka on May 25, 2013, 12:00:56 am
Easiest class to survive till the end of round (at least thats what I think, never tried it).
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Krax on May 25, 2013, 12:37:58 am
I mostly play a hx to learn new swear words...

But i really enjoy uproaring the 1h cav's horse and just have a staring contest, or get in a hs when a lancer or 1h cav chargers you... standing perfectly still. Guess thats the reason i play hx the ability to hold a shot forever. they can nerf the class to hell and back id still play it.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Micah on May 25, 2013, 12:57:44 am
Quote from: Krax on May 25, 2013, 12:37:58 am
I mostly play a hx to learn new swear words...
... or get in a hs when a lancer or 1h cav chargers you... standing perfectly still...
... haha, yeah, i know this from my HA , a lesson, that each lancer cav has to learn  :mrgreen:... eventhough i barely hs or 1hit kill anyone :S but some guys have pretty awesome dodging skills ... i must say , against an experianced lancer/1h its pretty much a 50% gamble .. quite exiting  :lol:

Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Overdriven on May 25, 2013, 01:20:03 am
Well this is as an HA but I imagine it's the same for HX. The satisfaction of shooting down enemy cav horses. Especially when you follow the same guy round after the round and ruin his day. You can almost feel the fist punching you through your computer.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Michael on May 25, 2013, 02:21:08 am
Quote from: WarLord on May 24, 2013, 09:52:14 pm
I didn´t play cRPG for almost 2 weeks now.

I just wanted to make a few nice rounds this evening before playing other games again.

This is what I get (with a 60 head armor helmet, 21 str and 7 IF) 30 !!!! seconds after the round start:

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Fuck this game, thanks for ruining it HX. Back to other games again ..



This is exactly what makes this class so attractive.

You dont need that much gold to make armor-my old friends rage.

Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Michael on May 25, 2013, 02:26:16 am
Quote from: Thomek on May 24, 2013, 11:56:32 pm
Because pissing other players off is fun!

I can honestly sign that myself, you like it too, deep inside, or up in the open!

Point is, allowing too easy trolling is like pissing your pants to keep warm in the winter.

It's bad for the community and playerbase as a whole.


Amazing how you 2h-heros believe your own lies. You really really seem to believe its fun for the other guy to die by a cowards 1-hit-backslash. Or by random desperate spam luck.

Now here is the truth: It doesnt matter much which class kills your character. Its always kinda frustrating, and its worse when its early in the round.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Kafein on May 25, 2013, 02:27:48 am
Some people have more fun when the other players don't.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Casimir on May 25, 2013, 05:26:40 am
I like turtles
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Falka on May 25, 2013, 08:46:59 am
Quote from: Havelle Registered Voter on May 25, 2013, 06:42:38 am
I have an HX alt. I like to use it to troll and delay.

Am I a bad person?

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Quote from: Kulin_ban on May 25, 2013, 08:02:47 am
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Starthing a poll against HX delaying at the end of round shouldn't be bannable, just the opposite, we should get valour for every successful poll against them  :P

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Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: obitus on May 25, 2013, 10:16:09 am
HX contributes more towards a team's victory than score or kd indicate, so being near the top of the scoreboard as HX means you're a pretty big help.

That and trolling people 1v8 to be a jackass 8-)
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Ronin on May 25, 2013, 12:12:28 pm
I see people see the mounted ranged as a form of trolling and pissing off other players. That means I have a different belief compared to the majority of our community. Let me explain my thoughts:

I, myself, never see the class like that. For me HA and HX are nearly the same, the only difference is that HX is way more superior than HA. Quality difference. I will explain this from a HA's perspective, since after seeing the quality difference between the classes; I quickly abandoned the looks of HA to become a HX once. Sacrificing some style for stats.

My favourite faction in Native is Khergits. Because I like the idea of mounted combat and mounted archery as a way of medieval warfare. Some people like nords and rhodoks; because they have strong infantry. Some people like Vaegirs, because of their archers. Some like sarranid and swadia, for their cavalry. And I like Khergits most; too bad people do everything not to play that class. Same applies to cRPG:
-Some people watch hollywood movies, which the main hero is a great swordsman or something; so they want to play as a twohander character.
-Some people like the idea of ninjas or samurais, therefore they grab a katana and become swift yet deadly ninjas. We even have a clan for that.
-Some people see robin hood or legolas; therefore they like to be an archer-  a ranger.
I all have respect for that.

But when I want to roleplay as a Steppe nomad, a Mongolian warrior, a Magyar cavalry, a Turkish raider or anything that is close to that; I became a troll, a round delayer, a conspiratist, a gaycher, a coward, a skilless player, an idiot, an asshole...

That's how it was for HA, before they nerfed and HX came out. As I said, it was for HA before; now it's for HX since it is the way to go if you want to play as a horse ranged. No difference really.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Mlekce on May 25, 2013, 12:23:01 pm
Piss of players definitely.
First i tried to kill them as 1h cav,but then i learned that it will always result of my destrier being shot cuz it has maneuver skills of aircraft carrier or even bigger boat.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Micah on May 25, 2013, 02:43:35 pm
i wonder, who is the one trolling and trying to piss other people off here ?
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: BlueKnight on May 26, 2013, 12:19:17 am
Quote from: Kulin_ban on May 25, 2013, 08:02:47 am
It is the easiest way to piss whole server community off

1. Join server as HX and make people mad

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You like my signature/sombody's art, don't you?
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Joker86 on May 26, 2013, 12:29:36 am
The superior flexibility.

- You can move everywhere, nobody is faster
- You can (theoretically) attack whoever you see

Which has a lot of secondary effects like higher survivability, less suffering of counters, perhaps you can say there are even less pure counters at all, at least compared to the amount of prey classes. They enjoy a more active, gameplay, they are always acting, and have to react very little (infantry for example can only reacting most of the time). It's not the deadliness, it's the possibility to almost always dictate the pace of fighting towards the goal of the game, which is killing all enemies. They can take their time and do it their way, under their conditions.

Never heard complaints about horse crossbowmen on siege though. Could be a hint for a solution.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: FeddyDK on May 26, 2013, 12:47:51 am
Quote from: Gurnisson on May 24, 2013, 11:50:26 pm
1. Being US Cavalry. There's no rifle in the game so I'll have to stick with the light xbow. After they made light xbow 2 slots I can't use my old sabre which was important to the look though :(
2. Take down the horses of light cavalry and harass infantry.
3. Going up against ranged players head on. Means a one-shot if I miss and my enemy hits. Quite the rush
4. Maneuverability and speed
5. Bow doesn't resemble a rifle in any way, and would remove the point for me to play horse ranged. It's also fun and, contrary to popular belief, a really tough class to master.

Once you face Walker, all other HX will make you laugh i tell ya !

The way i see it why to play HX over HA is all about precision + damage, HA can be just as effective if not more in some situations where others the HX shine above all else.
Title: Re: What makes playing HX fun?
Post by: Penguin on May 26, 2013, 01:37:29 am
I don't get the hate for horse archers and horse crossbowmen in general. They are funny to watch zip around the battlefield and bump unaware melee players into the ground. Whenever they get dismounted, they either try to run, which is funny because they are like fat kids running with their 0 ath or they try to fight which is equally funny because they do no damage with their fists or 0 slot swords. Of course this is from the perspective of someone who has been getting 1-2 shot by anything and everything since 2011.

Moral of the story: If you get used to wearing light armor and getting killed by everything, horse archers won't really bother you