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Title: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 07, 2013, 03:53:20 am
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/05/06/might-and-magic-heroes-vi-swamped-by-bugs-crashes-missing-content/

What do you people think of Ubisoft?
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Sniger on May 07, 2013, 12:57:49 pm





yup, thats right. i think its a pretty awesome publisher.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Molly on May 07, 2013, 01:02:57 pm
Can't say I had any issues with Ubisoft...

...don't really like their DRM-policy and other company decisions tho.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: NuberT on May 07, 2013, 01:03:56 pm
They shall burn in hell for messing up Silent Hunter 5!
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on May 07, 2013, 01:04:51 pm
DaVinci code. 10/10
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Sniger on May 07, 2013, 01:09:35 pm
ubisoft is a publisher and, correct me if wrong, have nothing to do with the code.

if you have experienced issues with a game published by ubisoft, dont blame them, blame the dev :)
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on May 07, 2013, 01:15:17 pm
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You missed that particular site.

edit: ah yeah I see where you're coming from  :|
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Miwiw on May 07, 2013, 01:17:29 pm
Ubisoft screwed up Blue Byte since 2001. Therefore Settlers IV was the last real Settlers... :/
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: NuberT on May 07, 2013, 01:19:36 pm
ubisoft is a publisher and, correct me if wrong, have nothing to do with the code.

if you have experienced issues with a game published by ubisoft, dont blame them, blame the dev :)

Silent Hunter 5 has been developed by Ubisoft Romania, which is owned by Ubisoft. They also developed Far Cry, Assassin's Creed, etc. They simply stopped supporting Silent Hunter 5, because they didn't sell enough copies - fucking lame.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Son Of Odin on May 07, 2013, 01:22:33 pm
Just came here to say that the first FarCry is probably the best sp fps game ever made.
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Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Sniger on May 07, 2013, 01:40:57 pm
bottom line i dont think gaming would be where it is today without ubisoft. yeah big words, but try check their title-spam through the years. many many far worse publishers/developers imo
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Sniger on May 07, 2013, 01:42:16 pm
Ubisoft screwed up Blue Byte since 2001. Therefore Settlers IV was the last real Settlers... :/

i played settlers 1, 2 and 3 heh i have no opinion about later settlers :S
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Radament on May 07, 2013, 01:44:37 pm
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DRM apart , Ubisoft  stated that PC gaming is shit compared to console (before Uplay) , so if you ask me , Ubisoft is a bigger shit.

Too bad they published so many good games , GoG is the future!!!111!!!1!!! (i know it's a reseller site but who cares i love GoG)
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Miwiw on May 07, 2013, 01:47:53 pm
i played settlers 1, 2 and 3 heh i have no opinion about later settlers :S

Then you played the good parts. Part IV is alright and similar to III but already lost some of its amazingness. :D
But it started to be bad with V. I also played VII once but uninstalled it after 2 minutes cause it was crap².

They also made a new version of Settlers II but thats not worth either. Settlers IV aint bad, but I - III are far better :)
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Joker86 on May 07, 2013, 01:59:09 pm
What I think about Ubisoft?

Bought Splinter Cell: Conviction to play it in CoOp with my girlfriend. I couldn't establish a connection due to SS needing a shitload of open ports (I think it was over 40) and a static IP adress, and even then I could not connect.

Then my GF bought us 2 copies of Far Cry 3, and we ended up with the same problem.

I think Ubisoft is owing me money for selling me something which does not work. Their games are good, but I want that the person(s) who is/are responsible for the whole DRM and security bullshit choke on a dick, until they die a miserable death with jizz coming out of their mouth and nose.

That's what I think about Ubisoft.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Casimir on May 07, 2013, 02:21:13 pm
Past ubisoft policy has been pretty shitty, however they've got some good IP's and no-one can question that.

Recently stuff like blood dragon has encouraged me, and their attitude towards PC gamers seems to have improved, probably because their pockets are suffering.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Sniger on May 07, 2013, 02:37:52 pm
Too bad they published so many good games...

Their games are good, but...

say if like BMW had crap administration, ppl would still but them cars :p

Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Elmuri on May 07, 2013, 02:43:04 pm
Last summer I bought HOMMVI in the steam sales. First took few days to get to play it due to Uplay not working.

And when I finally could play there was a major bug that made scrolling the map impossible after a few minutes of playing, I read that other players had the same issue. Really they had had over half a year to fix bugs and still there was a common bug that made playing nearly impossible. Not maybe the publishers fault, but they could concentrate first on major bugs and not for releasing expansions (who even buys them for unplayable game lol). Quite an arrogant attitude. Haven't played it since, don't know about how much other bugs there are, because testing it was impossible and not really interested anymore.

Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 07, 2013, 04:52:20 pm
Alot of their good/best releases have been console based games.

Very little of what they've released has been PC based. It's just so bad that so many good series get butchered cause of their publisher and it's failures.

MMH VI should be an excellent game, but if problems like this persist(and someone mentioned it up above that the game was broken 1 year ago!) shouldn't you start looking at the publisher too? There's only so much you can pin on development team. If, even after a year a game STILL breaks, there's things up there that the publisher is causing too.

And now for some fun facts!
Fact 1 (http://www.esrb.org/about/video-game-industry-statistics.jsp)
Fact 2 (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/187292/GDC_State_of_the_Industry_research_exposes_rise_of_indies_smartphone_games.php#.US9zc1dvBYg)
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Tibe on May 07, 2013, 05:45:12 pm
ubisoft is a publisher and, correct me if wrong, have nothing to do with the code.

if you have experienced issues with a game published by ubisoft, dont blame them, blame the dev :)

Its not the code. Crap like DRM for instance is usually publishers own fault. I agree with Casimir thou. In the past they sucked so much harder than they suck now. Once they were in the same shitpuddle with EA. They have partially climed out of there. They are the biggest bitchers about pirating. Blaming it entirely, when their sales aint going as well as they hope. Than they keep putting their piece of shit DRM everywhere, not still catching a clue that their DRMbullcrap is acctually a way bigger pain in the ass to their actual costumers than crackers. Also I dont get this useless Uplaythingy. Origin and Uplay are fucking pointless. Steam works fine. "Il add you in Origin/Uplay" - Said noone ever.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 07, 2013, 06:21:12 pm
Ubisoft screwed up Blue Byte since 2001. Therefore Settlers IV was the last real Settlers... :/

I'd have to say II, either way, the Settlers franchise is forever ruined... :cry:
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Leshma on May 07, 2013, 07:18:52 pm
Only big publisher I like is T2. I dislike every other big publisher. Ubisoft is pretty high on dislike list.

I think that Uplay is worse than GFWL and hate them for ruining one of my favorite game series, Heroes of Might and Magic. Russian version (HoMMV) was published by them and is a great game but HoMMVI is abysmal.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Molly on May 07, 2013, 07:31:22 pm
Only big publisher I like is T2. I dislike every other big publisher. Ubisoft is pretty high on dislike list.

I think that Uplay is worse than GFWL and hate them for ruining one of my favorite game series, Heroes of Might and Magic. Russian version (HoMMV) was published by them and is a great game but HoMMVI is abysmal.
In no time nor space is anything worse than GFWL. uPlay at least works.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Tibe on May 07, 2013, 07:48:07 pm
I think that Uplay is worse than GFWL and hate them for ruining one of my favorite game series, Heroes of Might and Magic. Russian version (HoMMV) was published by them and is a great game but HoMMVI is abysmal.

Heroes III ftw bro!
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Miwiw on May 07, 2013, 08:21:57 pm
I'd have to say II, either way, the Settlers franchise is forever ruined... :cry:

Many would say II, but looking at how the game is played, it would include IV plus IV is the last Settlers without Ubisoft. :)
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Franke on May 07, 2013, 09:05:18 pm
They shall burn in hell for messing up Silent Hunter 5!

This!  :mad: Silent Hunter 4 was already weak, part 5 a complete disappointment.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: zagibu on May 08, 2013, 02:11:40 am
All this uplay, origin and battlenet crap will die soon, anyway. Once steam comes to consoles. Or consoles come to steam.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Casimir on May 08, 2013, 02:25:40 am
That's something that will only hurt gamers in the long run.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 08, 2013, 03:37:47 am
That's something that will only hurt gamers in the long run.

Steam coming to consoles?

Probably.

The Video Game industry is the ONLY one with a no return policy. If there was a return policy and these companies had to start eating their money like regular industry did for messed up, shit games, you'd see the whole industry turn around.

And In reality, it's just PC games that suffer the no return policy.  Consoles have companies that act just like regular companies do and do returns and resales.(which is why xbox wants to go all digital and remove the ability to resale games. Fuking Money grubbing CEOs)
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Casimir on May 08, 2013, 03:42:15 am
steam having a monopoly
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Rumblood on May 08, 2013, 05:00:05 am
Steam coming to consoles?

Probably.

The Video Game industry is the ONLY one with a no return policy. If there was a return policy and these companies had to start eating their money like regular industry did for messed up, shit games, you'd see the whole industry turn around.

And In reality, it's just PC games that suffer the no return policy.  Consoles have companies that act just like regular companies do and do returns and resales.(which is why xbox wants to go all digital and remove the ability to resale games. Fuking Money grubbing CEOs)

Steam's Big Picture mode is the first step towards moving to the Television and integrate the gaming experiences. Consoles games could be resold because you needed the physical media, on PC you don't. I can understand that. But now companies are moving to the "Cloud" because they have seen that it will allow them to charge more for less of a product. (Yes less because you have to be always online, which is bullshit for a standalone product). Google news "Photoshop" and see what I'm talking about.

Bottom line is, unless we want a future where you pay a subscription for every piece of software you own, oh excuse me, RENT, and must be online always in order to use it, we have got to boycott these companies and hit them in their stock price until more CEO's like EA's get laid off from their jobs. Oh for the FYI, after EA's CEO got canned, Sims 4 has been announced as a single player offline game for 2014 release. Surprise? No. Vote with your dollars people. Withhold them for the shit "Cloud enhancements" and make titles like Sims 4 with single player offline wildly successful. I'm going to buy it and not because I actually want it (though I'll give it to my kids), but because I want to send a message. Keep single players offline and make gobs of money, or suffer the loss of revenue when you don't.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 08, 2013, 06:39:03 am
Steam's Big Picture mode is the first step towards moving to the Television and integrate the gaming experiences. Consoles games could be resold because you needed the physical media, on PC you don't. I can understand that. But now companies are moving to the "Cloud" because they have seen that it will allow them to charge more for less of a product. (Yes less because you have to be always online, which is bullshit for a standalone product). Google news "Photoshop" and see what I'm talking about.

Bottom line is, unless we want a future where you pay a subscription for every piece of software you own, oh excuse me, RENT, and must be online always in order to use it, we have got to boycott these companies and hit them in their stock price until more CEO's like EA's get laid off from their jobs. Oh for the FYI, after EA's CEO got canned, Sims 4 has been announced as a single player offline game for 2014 release. Surprise? No. Vote with your dollars people. Withhold them for the shit "Cloud enhancements" and make titles like Sims 4 with single player offline wildly successful. I'm going to buy it and not because I actually want it (though I'll give it to my kids), but because I want to send a message. Keep single players offline and make gobs of money, or suffer the loss of revenue when you don't.

Exactly what I said, though much much more literate about it. These companies want to protect their games via DRM and all that fun shit. But, just like my first post, it's often the REAL customer who gets hurt most and not the pirates or otherwise.
Another thing killing the industry is that large game companies take control of good and popular game series(EA just took over Starwars rights, basically. Ubi has several classic series's under their control...) and try to make as MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE out of it.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: zagibu on May 08, 2013, 01:49:35 pm
You might not be able to resell or return your games on Steam (though the latter is actually possible, although you have to fight for it), but does it really matter that much? Steam has done a lot for Gaming, by including the Mac and now Linux people, and by proving that you can actually make MORE money, if you sell games for lower prices. I haven't bought a game for full price in the last three years.

And then there are all those integrated community features...
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Rumblood on May 08, 2013, 05:05:38 pm
You might not be able to resell or return your games on Steam (though the latter is actually possible, although you have to fight for it), but does it really matter that much? Steam has done a lot for Gaming, by including the Mac and now Linux people, and by proving that you can actually make MORE money, if you sell games for lower prices. I haven't bought a game for full price in the last three years.

And then there are all those integrated community features...

I'm an unabashed Steam fanboi and so are most of my gamer friends. If they ain't, they ain't no friend of mine!  :P
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Kafein on May 08, 2013, 05:17:26 pm
Steam in coming years will probably acheive one of the best things for PC gaming ever, which is kicking Microsoft out of their monopoly on gaming OS. Other than that, the only reason they are not hated by everyone is their focus on customer satisfaction and indie games, because you still don't own anything when you buy a steam game.

About Ubisoft : some good games, still pretty much the third worst moneygrubbing videogame publisher (behind activision and EA). Worst DRMs of all time. Uplay is slightly less of a piece of shit than Origin, but still useless bloatware.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: cmp on May 08, 2013, 06:30:51 pm
Steam in coming years will probably acheive one of the best things for PC gaming ever, which is kicking Microsoft out of their monopoly on gaming OS.

Nope, it doesn't work like that. If you want to break the monopoly you need to convince OEMs to sell PCs with Linux (can't, nowhere near ready) or Mac (can't, hardware bound and exclusive). If that doesn't happen, the vast majority of developers will just continue to target Windows only and ignore Valve's publicity stunts.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Kafein on May 08, 2013, 06:51:22 pm
Nope, it doesn't work like that. If you want to break the monopoly you need to convince OEMs to sell PCs with Linux (can't, nowhere near ready) or Mac (can't, hardware bound and exclusive). If that doesn't happen, the vast majority of developers will just continue to target Windows only and ignore Valve's publicity stunts.

You may be right about the really general public, but at least this opening will a give a chance to Linux gaming. Most gamers I know only have a windows partition for one reason : games. "Most gamers I know" is of course not a good sample of the entire gamer population, but still this includes anyone tech-savvy enough to buy pc parts separately and installing an OS. And let's not forget evidence that windows 8 has made a big hole in OEM pc sales. Those people that wanted to buy a pc didn't dissappear entirely (some chose tablets instead, sure).
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Leshma on May 08, 2013, 07:00:37 pm
Nope, it doesn't work like that. If you want to break the monopoly you need to convince OEMs to sell PCs with Linux (can't, nowhere near ready) or Mac (can't, hardware bound and exclusive). If that doesn't happen, the vast majority of developers will just continue to target Windows only and ignore Valve's publicity stunts.

Few years ago Dell and couple of other smaller OEM tried that. But timing wasn't good. Right now, Canonical and Ubuntu are the only chance for that to happen. If they manage to make "unified" OS that works well, in few years many OEMs will choose Ubuntu instead of Windows. Android is popular but it isn't made for desktop.

Of course, there's "PC is dying" trend which could result in death of Windows just because there won't be enough desktop PCs on the market.

So far Linux is winning by a big margin. Servers, mobile devices are running Linux. Microsoft is still strong on desktop but we'll see how long that will last.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: zagibu on May 08, 2013, 07:22:20 pm
The timing is never right. The problem of the Linux push some years ago was that people simply expected a free Windows. However, there is no Outlook on Linux, and no Photoshop. People are not ready to change the tools they have used for years. They'll never be.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Kafein on May 08, 2013, 07:45:03 pm
I think one of the reasons Microsoft is still dominant in the desktop market is to be found in businesses. They provide a much better integrated software suite for office work and system administration, all packaged together in a way that just works, and with minimum effort. The specific tools are usually not better than the equivalent open or linux compatible versions, but the convenience of only using proprietary stuff is that you don't have to care about messing with software not made to interact.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: cmp on May 08, 2013, 08:16:34 pm
Windows having more applications available and Linux counterparts being pretty bad is a big factor, but what really holds back Linux is that its developer and user base is split between reasonable people and dumb OSS talibans (the foot eater above all), and it really needs the former to prevail before it can break through to a wider audience.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Rumblood on May 08, 2013, 09:25:59 pm
Of course, there's "PC is dying" trend which could result in death of Windows just because there won't be enough desktop PCs on the market.

This is just a myth propagated by people like writers at ZDnet who need more people to visit their site and argue to generate a revenue stream from site visits. I own a PC, 2 consoles, 2 tablets, 2 laptops and my Note II (smartphone). If I had to pare it down to 2 devices, I would keep my PC and my Note II and ditch the consoles, laptops, and tablets.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Leshma on May 08, 2013, 11:36:44 pm
You're tech-savvy user who's also working in IT industry. Most people aren't.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Rumblood on May 09, 2013, 12:16:20 am
You're tech-savvy user who's also working in IT industry. Most people aren't.

Gamers and Porn made the PC industry. We aren't wandering off just because there is something shiny over there  :P
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 09, 2013, 04:07:30 am
You guys lost me at the linux part.

 :cry:

And I hate MACs, cause of fuking apple's business policies.
Title: Re: Your Opinions on Ubisoft?
Post by: zagibu on May 09, 2013, 04:45:42 am
I think one of the reasons Microsoft is still dominant in the desktop market is to be found in businesses. They provide a much better integrated software suite for office work and system administration, all packaged together in a way that just works, and with minimum effort. The specific tools are usually not better than the equivalent open or linux compatible versions, but the convenience of only using proprietary stuff is that you don't have to care about messing with software not made to interact.

I personally think this is no longer true. There are good linux-based bundles of tools that work the same way you are describing. Linux still has the problem that hardware vendors don't care about it, which means new hardware will generally not work well, until some third party writes a driver and basically does the hardware vendors job (which might never happen). But if you get lucky, and everything works, Linux based software can provide an even better user experience for office work and administrators.

However, as stated previously, this is not even the main problem. The main problem is that people want Outlook, not Evolution or Thunderbird. They want Photoshop, not Gimp. Powerpoint, not OpenOffice Draw. Most people are not willing to relearn these tools. Also, most people find choice intimidating. Many have told me that they don't want to decide between Banshee, VLC, Kaffeine, Totem, Mplayer and what have you, they simply want a media player. Strangely enough, they have no problems doing the same thing with commercial software, maybe because there is a price tag attached, that helps in the decision.