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Title: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on April 28, 2013, 10:22:37 pm
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Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Teeth on April 28, 2013, 10:38:27 pm
Yes, this could be fun. Just give the finger to all the whiny bitches, it is balanced because everyone is allowed to do everything.

5 throwing lance hoplites counter everything though.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on April 28, 2013, 10:44:52 pm
Yes, this could be fun. Just give the finger to all the whiny bitches, it is balanced because everyone is allowed to do everything.

5 throwing lance hoplites counter everything though.

Well that's the magic of it: you can sign up with whatever you like and field whatever you feel like. At the end of the day - you've had it your way no matter the outcome. Interesting not only for those who participate but also for those who spectate cause majority wouldn't know what's about to happen (as sign-ups would be made via PM's to 4-5 guys overseeing the whole thing and checks could be easily made, all you need is to make sure its the same people who signed, nothing else).  :wink:
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on April 28, 2013, 10:58:28 pm
i like the idea of 5 HA's on a plain map  :wink:

but also therefor is a counter.

maybe it would be better when both teams would know what classes the other team will play with?
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Torben on April 28, 2013, 11:00:34 pm
its a wall allright.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 28, 2013, 11:03:55 pm
5 siege engineers on one team.


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Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on April 28, 2013, 11:09:40 pm
maybe it would be better when both teams would know what classes the other team will play with?

It would kill what little magic there is left in trying to organize such an event.  :wink:
I mean the initial bracket would be made by organizers in secret, you would sign your team with a certain name for it so later everyone would see the bracket once the first knock-out is done. I recon things would get clear very fast. Not much space for "breaking the rules" as there aren't many and what use would those 4-5 guys have of ruining the whole thing ?


Map for this would need to be specially made, some kind of medium sized arena (so cav can move freely) but not too large so we don't have 2 mins of running before you even see your opponents), with only a few obstacles in it so there is no campfest, just some basic natural cover. You want to field 5 HA's ? Sure why not ? Just don't cry if you can't kill anything. Same as the other team shouldn't cry about inability to take those 5 HA's down. No restrictions means that for example: best out of 7 rounds (quite a good format so its short & efficient) leaves enough time for your team to change their options after the initial round (grab different gear if they are able to equip it, etc) to adjust to the situation. So many possible scenarios that you couldn't list them all right now.  :wink:

Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on April 28, 2013, 11:21:52 pm
there will be alot of fun and alot of rage  :D
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on April 28, 2013, 11:24:39 pm
I'll try to give an example: you gather your friends and make a team. You give your team a name (lets call it Imbeciles for the purpose of this explanation) that only you guys know and sign-up via PM. Organizers make a bracket. Shortly before the start of the event they announce it in a knock-out form ofc:


Imbeciles
vs
Morons

Jerks
vs
Dickheads

SWAGs
vs
my old friends

etc, etc.

You know you're the Imbeciles but you don't know who the others are. None knows until the first match they show up. First rounds are complete surprises and everything after that is adjusting or just being stubborn and remaining at your initial choices. Pure knock-out during one weekend, if there is a lot of teams then its split in two: elimination rounds on Saturday and closing rounds on Sunday. If there is enough teams to do it in one day (2-3 hours) then its Sunday afternoon or evening.  :wink:
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: crazybob on April 28, 2013, 11:30:08 pm
Restrictions are boring.
Please go ahead and make this happen :)
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Cyber on April 29, 2013, 02:10:25 am
no ranged, 1 crushthrough and STF only please.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on April 29, 2013, 08:02:47 am
Ancient aliens is awesome though, I learned a lot from that show.

no ranged, 1 crushthrough and STF only please.



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This topic might be better in General Discussion tho, I don't think many people follow this section of forum.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Ronin on April 29, 2013, 12:04:54 pm
This was the event I was waiting for a long time.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on April 29, 2013, 02:10:23 pm
This was the event I was waiting for a long time.

Well technically speaking it's not here yet. This is just initial idea.  :wink:

Only 20 votes so far, still not enough to call it a proper interest in such event.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Molly on April 29, 2013, 02:17:06 pm
You could ask Tuete to give you a hand and his map from his first tournament. Size was ideal, I think.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Ronin on April 29, 2013, 02:40:04 pm
I hope it will get enough interest. And I can say that it will, it's just a matter of time before enough people see it.

I'd like to help if you need some help about jobs that do not require much effort. I'd like to help more but I don't have the stamina these days.

By the way, I do not see any reason not to build up teams. I don't want to lead any team but If anyone wants me in their team please pm.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Kafein on April 30, 2013, 12:15:21 pm
Excellent idea ! FFA matches are very fun !

Remember the fallen duel tournament that began with eight last man standing matches :')
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on April 30, 2013, 07:19:17 pm
This sounds fresh and new, I like it.

One thing that becomes vital is:

1) The match is in an arena on the map and everyone else is standing outside the arena?
or
2) The match is played out on a map and everyone else is in spectator?

If 1), how big an arena is it? (Makes a big impact!)

if 2), what map(s) are we talking about?

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Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on April 30, 2013, 07:56:54 pm
This sounds fresh and new, I like it.

One thing that becomes vital is:

1) The match is in an arena on the map and everyone else is standing outside the arena?
or
2) The match is played out on a map and everyone else is in spectator?

If 1), how big an arena is it? (Makes a big impact!)

if 2), what map(s) are we talking about?

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I think it would be wiser for participants only to spawn while others remain in spectator mod unless ofc it doesn't matter how many people are spawned on the map in terms of lags and such. I already wrote somewhere that maybe it should be a medium sized arena with only a few basic cover obstacles so cav doesn't have it easy mode and yet so it doesn't have it impossible either. Same goes for archers: we don't want campfest but a few basic objects for some cover will do, nothing too much. Other option beside arena would be some kind of natural surroundings like a field or something but that too should have some "borders" so the matches don't stretch into nonsense. We want some basic teamplay and tactics followed by bloodshed instead of watching soap operas and camp festivals.  :wink:

As for the server: unfortunately I don't have much friends among the Overlords so I don't know if its possible to borrow one of the official servers for a few hours, one that is not used much. That would be the best option.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on April 30, 2013, 08:50:20 pm
Okay, if it becomes big enough there is a real chance the overlords might help. Nothing certain though (You know how they are)

Lets make a checklist of what we need and what we got:

Idea: Complete but needs finalizing (Ironing out the edges and making a proper thread)
Server: Not yet sorted
Admins (If needed): Not yet sorted
Date and time: Not yet sorted
Map: Not yet sorted

Anything else?
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on April 30, 2013, 09:47:50 pm
Okay, if it becomes big enough there is a real chance the overlords might help. Nothing certain though (You know how they are)

Lets make a checklist of what we need and what we got:

Idea: Complete but needs finalizing (Ironing out the edges and making a proper thread)
Server: Not yet sorted
Admins (If needed): Not yet sorted
Date and time: Not yet sorted
Map: Not yet sorted

Anything else?

Well yeah since you've put it in such a nice way: we've got nothing except the basic idea.  :P

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Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Molly on May 01, 2013, 10:35:07 am
In my experience as referee in Tueten's Tournament, only have the people spawned who are up for the next match is the way to go.

At the end we had issues with people becoming impatient and teamkilling each other for lolz. Which made everyone else go all nervous.

The idea of having real chars watch the fights from some balcony is nice, and Tuete had a nice solution with actual invisible balconies, but it makes the whole thing just more complicated since you have to babysit those spectators (not all of them but some).
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on May 01, 2013, 11:56:58 am
Well yeah since you've put it in such a nice way: we've got nothing except the basic idea.  :P

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Well sorry, I'm not very good at putting things in a nice way :D

I'm actually positive about it, seeing as there is not that much to do in the end.



One thing I need to make clear: I'm not gonna be the "person to hit his fist against the deck". I'm very much willing to help you out with servers, admining, making thread or whatever, but IMO you should be the driving force behind this project. You're the one who decides.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on May 01, 2013, 12:14:58 pm
One thing I need to make clear: I'm not gonna be the "person to hit his fist against the deck". I'm very much willing to help you out with servers, admining, making thread or whatever, but IMO you should be the driving force behind this project. You're the one who decides.

Ok I'm just gonna clear my desk up a bit to make some room for hitting. Consider it done.  :wink:

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Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: bagge on May 13, 2013, 02:07:14 pm
Cmon Gnjus, make it happen.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on May 13, 2013, 07:44:27 pm
Cmon Gnjus, make it happen.

We're working on it. Teutten is making modifications on the map and then testing it, rules are pretty much agreed on (not many of em anyways  :wink: ), all that is left to decide is the best time for it, which weekend ? There are many schoolkids and students among cRPG population so I don't know what's the best possible time for it, late may or early june ? It has to be after their exams and stuff but before summertime......
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 13, 2013, 07:48:17 pm
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Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on May 13, 2013, 07:56:17 pm
Summertime = all us hosters and admins of the event taking the sign-up fee and getting pissed in croatia with whores all around us - there will be no reward

(Just kidding, the whores come free  :twisted:)


Maybe Welsh whores are free but Croatian ones most certainly aren't.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: [ptx] on May 13, 2013, 08:00:10 pm
If Olwen had a server and could make maps, he would make the best tourney ever.
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Tuetensuppe on May 16, 2013, 11:25:49 pm
map is ready for testing...
contact me about a date and i will upload it on hre servers and we could have a closer look and talk about some ideas...
also gnjus > make a steam group so communication gets more easy ;)

greetings


teuten the soup
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: jtobiasm on May 19, 2013, 02:05:47 pm
no ranged, 1 crushthrough and STF only please.

Good Idea a tourny for 2h heros, moron.

pweeeeez make this, only thing is I'd need 6 friends ;D
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on May 20, 2013, 08:25:43 am
pweeeeez make this, only thing is I'd need 6 friends ;D

Providing the fact that a dedicated archer can have 6 friends in the first place.  :wink:
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 30, 2013, 08:05:15 pm
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Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on May 30, 2013, 09:14:11 pm
Where's our gay love viewing!

Teutten will probably finish it by the end of this weekend, if not then during the next week.  8-)
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Gnjus on June 07, 2013, 02:07:33 pm
No word from Tuetten for days, looks like he drowned in the Dresden Flood.  :(
Title: Re: Opinions ?
Post by: Tuetensuppe on June 07, 2013, 06:48:37 pm
No word from Tuetten for days, looks like he drowned in the Dresden Flood.  :(

bs...was online yesterday the whole evening and waiting for you...same as now :P

we have some fun here btw ;)
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