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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Arkonor on April 22, 2013, 11:10:48 pm

Title: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: Arkonor on April 22, 2013, 11:10:48 pm
Reasoning is that it is silly to see 5 2-handers in the end get picked off by one HA when there are tons of shields around them. Everyone could hold one up. But it should have a big penalty to speed rating on the shield if you hold one without the proper skill.
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: Dalfador on April 22, 2013, 11:39:44 pm
Horse archery is already shit, either the two handers you are talking about do not know how to dodge, or were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

P.S

You should add a poll so people downvote the poll, and not you. :)
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: Arkonor on April 23, 2013, 02:49:12 am
Horse archery is already shit, either the two handers you are talking about do not know how to dodge, or were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

P.S

You should add a poll so people downvote the poll, and not you. :)

Guessing you play in US. Since in EU there are TONS of HX doing just fine :)
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: Muki on April 23, 2013, 03:44:40 am
Reasoning is that it is silly to see 5 2-handers in the end get picked off by one HA when there are tons of shields around them. Everyone could hold one up. But it should have a big penalty to speed rating on the shield if you hold one without the proper skill.

But you stated HA not HX.

HX are always a pain
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: Sir_Senior_the_Eldest on April 23, 2013, 03:37:23 pm
Aren't their shields for 0 shield skill? These lovely tournament things? What about taking one or two of them or simply accept that your class has one weakness which is ranged?
The challenge of the game is to get over these weaknesses, imo not with changing game mechanics but with acceptance and awareness of your pros and cons and -most important- with teamwork.
Defend your ranged and pikemen for some seconds and they will do their job.

I have no shield or so myself and to be honest, I wouldn't play this game if I could have a class winning against every other one.

Just my opinion, doesn't have to be yours.

greets
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: Miwiw on April 23, 2013, 04:22:17 pm
If you want a shield as 2h, get 3-5 shield skill and sacrifice smth else.
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: Rumblood on April 23, 2013, 05:12:22 pm
Reasoning is that it is silly to see 5 2-handers in the end get picked off by one HA when there are tons of shields around them. Everyone could hold one up. But it should have a big penalty to speed rating on the shield if you hold one without the proper skill.

Okay. And make the bows on horseback alternate mode a lance.
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 23, 2013, 06:35:14 pm
I personally think everything should be able to be picked up if you meet the strength requirement for it (everything should have a strength requirement on top of the things like "bow difficulty which relates to PD, or shield difficulty which relates to shield skill). 

But you should get a large penalty to speed (or damage if it's a weapon).  This would be nice for being able to loot items for strategus, or bring a bow back for a friend (even though I have no power draw, I should physically be able to pick up the bow).  Same with a shield, you have some really strong guys out there, they would be able to easily pick up a shield, but without shield skill, they would block very slowly, and would have no "force field" around the shield.
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: Rumblood on April 23, 2013, 09:27:30 pm
Same with a shield, you have some really strong guys out there, they would be able to easily pick up a shield, but without shield skill, they would block very slowly, and would have no "force field" around the shield.

Obviously they are too dumb to know that you can pick it up by its edges. They keep trying to "palm" the face to pick it up  :lol:
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: Necrorave on April 23, 2013, 09:50:03 pm
Make 2h stronger.

Thats all I got out of this.

I understand from a realism aspect that this would make sense, although this would cause an unimagineable amount of balance issues.  Also, most 1h users will probably just go 2h or leave because whats the point since 2h can use them now too.

If something like this were to ever be put into effect, then those penalties should be fucking massive.  (Decreased shield speed, decreased movement speed, minimal forcefield, Cannot be sheath, yadda yadda)

Although, I don't think this should be allowed at all.
Title: Re: Suggestion : Make all shield usable without the proper skill
Post by: owens on April 24, 2013, 05:38:39 am
@Cracka PW has already got a system like you describe.