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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rainbow on April 17, 2013, 11:07:37 pm

Title: Throwing weps
Post by: Rainbow on April 17, 2013, 11:07:37 pm
WTF is up w/ the repair rate on throwing weps.  165 WPF in throwing and my throwing weps get repaired 90% of the rounds.  This has GOT TO BE a bug of sorts.  I talked to chucky tosser who has over 170 WPF and his gets repaired almost every round too.  That should NOT be the case.....
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: no_rules_just_play on April 17, 2013, 11:12:25 pm
i second this
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Arjay on April 17, 2013, 11:20:32 pm
Even my stones repair every round, please fix this before I go broke.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: 722_ on April 17, 2013, 11:27:50 pm
pretty similar for xbows and archers too
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: IG_Saint on April 17, 2013, 11:50:30 pm
I make money in my medium weaboo armour and 4 throwing lances and even with 1 lance and 3 jarids (which effectively doubles the possible repairs costs). I'm not sure what the problem is..
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Rainbow on April 18, 2013, 12:28:40 am
well my throwing lances break almost every round and i'm in light armor and not making money.  i'm kind of teeter tottering around break even right now.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Jarlek on April 18, 2013, 12:48:47 am
I make money in my medium weaboo armour and 4 throwing lances and even with 1 lance and 3 jarids (which effectively doubles the possible repairs costs). I'm not sure what the problem is..
1 lance and 3 Jarids doesn't double your repair chance. It's still 4 throwing stacks with 4 times the chance of breaking.

Remember, all stacks are an individual item with a break chance. If you got 3 stacks of jarids, you can end up having to repair 3 stacks in one round.

Oh, reduce throwing cost. Costs way too much for how useful they are.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: IG_Saint on April 18, 2013, 12:59:26 am
wrong, these days only 1 version of the same item can break. Which is why throwing costs these days are fine imo.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Dach on April 18, 2013, 01:30:32 am
wrong, these days only 1 version of the same item can break. Which is why throwing costs these days are fine imo.

I want the source for that... never saw that change anywhere...
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: SMEGMAR on April 18, 2013, 01:32:29 am
I'm totally fine with this, it makes perfect sense considering throwing weapons are not 2h weapons.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: IG_Saint on April 18, 2013, 01:39:17 am
Don't have a source, there probably isn't even one, considering this was done before patch notes existed. You'll just have to take the word of someone who (nearly) only plays a thrower with 4 lances. or try it out yourself.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Brrrak on April 18, 2013, 01:53:14 am
I'm totally fine with this, it makes perfect sense considering throwing weapons are not 2h weapons.

I get it.

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Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Rainbow on April 18, 2013, 03:11:38 am
I use 4 throwing lances and have never had to repair more then 1 lance.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Mr.K. on April 18, 2013, 03:24:32 pm
If you got 3 stacks of jarids, you can end up having to repair 3 stacks in one round.

Not true. It does increase the chance, but you can only have one stack of jarids broken in one round even if you have four stacks with you. It used to be different, but has been like this for a long time now.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Tibe on April 18, 2013, 03:41:26 pm
Whoever said that increasing the WPF of the weapon you equip lessens the chance of it repairing was most certainly speaking out of his(or hers) asshole. I used  a polearm and 1h for a gen with WPF for both around 100. And I think I rarely payed for any of em. Now I have just one blade with 150wpf and it breaks nearly every round.

Throwing is an extremely costly buisness. The chance to pay upkeep increases with every stack you add, like some here already said.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Kafein on April 18, 2013, 03:53:28 pm
Whoever said that increasing the WPF of the weapon you equip lessens the chance of it repairing was most certainly speaking out of his(or hers) asshole. I used  a polearm and 1h for a gen with WPF for both around 100. And I think I rarely payed for any of em. Now I have just one blade with 150wpf and it breaks nearly every round.

This is a very well documented feature for cRPG standards. It appeared in one of the mid 2012 patch notes iirc.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Jarlek on April 18, 2013, 04:15:22 pm
wrong, these days only 1 version of the same item can break. Which is why throwing costs these days are fine imo.
Huh, shows how stupid I was using a 1h, throwing axes, jarids and war darts at the same time when I was thrower :(
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Algarn on April 18, 2013, 05:02:12 pm
WTF is up w/ the repair rate on throwing weps.  165 WPF in throwing and my throwing weps get repaired 90% of the rounds.  This has GOT TO BE a bug of sorts.  I talked to chucky tosser who has over 170 WPF and his gets repaired almost every round too.  That should NOT be the case.....

Same with my bow !! +1 to this thread ...
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: MrShine on April 18, 2013, 05:18:05 pm
all ranged classes deal with this issue, it's just that xbows & archers usually have 2-3 stacks while throwers often have 3 or 4, and throwers weapons cost even more.

I think we can all agree that the upkeep system as a balance mechanism is horribly broken.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Rainbow on April 18, 2013, 08:21:09 pm
Being a thrower is going to make me poor.  I get way more kills as a 2hander in mid - heavy armor and make money.  On my thrower it's a lot tougher for me to get kills, i wear super light armor, and i'm going broke!  What in the world.  I hope that repair rates on throwing gets addressed in the future. 

Hell I even made money on might light cav w/ mid armor and a 2hander.  The potentional upkeep on that lay out dwarfs this upkeep!
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: bruce on April 18, 2013, 10:23:19 pm
Whoever said that increasing the WPF of the weapon you equip lessens the chance of it repairing was most certainly speaking out of his(or hers) asshole.

I remember Paul said it.
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: IG_Saint on April 18, 2013, 11:13:44 pm
Just curious, but the throwers who complain about repairs: how much wpf do you guys have? I always go for 130 throwing as soon as possible and then up that to 140 at lvl 31. Maybe the minimum to avoid the "too low wpf message" (7*13=91+whatever you need for your armour) is just not enough wpf to make money?
Title: Re: Throwing weps
Post by: Rainbow on April 19, 2013, 12:14:14 am
Chucky tosser has over 170 WPF and he has to repair his throwing weps almost every round he says.  There is DEF an element missing in the mysterious repair bill equation for throwing.