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Title: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: theprojectnemesis on April 14, 2013, 10:03:25 pm
I'm soon going to retire again giving me a second loom with which I will be able to buy a MW (+3) sword for 2 looms+gold. First I thought of taking the MW claymore because it gets up to 46 cut in swing but people told me the german might be a better idea because of the lolstab and the reach. The danish also comes up in the comments as being a good choice but I feel like the danish is overwhelming the market. So now, I'm hesitating between the german, the claymore and the danish. So your opinions on this?
Title: Re: German greatsword or great sword?
Post by: bruce on April 14, 2013, 10:32:05 pm
Which unheirloomed weapon you like best? Play with all of the candidates for a while.
Title: Re: German greatsword or great sword?
Post by: Torost on April 14, 2013, 10:35:32 pm
If you go Danish GreatSword ... you recieve gold aswell for your 2 loompoints... there is nothing wrong with them, just way too popular before so the market is flooded.

If you are a crafty trader: put up a bid like 2lp for DGS+100K .. it will get filled within a few days is my guess.
Title: Re: German greatsword or great sword?
Post by: Falka on April 14, 2013, 11:01:15 pm
If you go Danish GreatSword ... you recieve gold aswell for your 2 loompoints... there is nothing wrong with them, just way too popular before so the market is flooded.

If you are a crafty trader: put up a bid like 2lp for DGS+100K .. it will get filled within a few days is my guess.

What he said, Danish GS is the best one and really cheap, if you're new here I'd definitely buy this one.
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: theprojectnemesis on April 15, 2013, 12:53:31 am
But im not new, this is my 5th gen and I don't want to make a bad investment cause its probably the last time i retire
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: Miwiw on April 15, 2013, 01:29:42 am
That decision really depends on you. What 2h swords did you use and how did you like them?

To talk about item's worth on the marketplace, it's quite simple:

Danish Greatsword is the cheapest, and you probably won't even have to pay 2 LP for it. Of course that will need some time, for about 2 LP you probably get it instantly.
There is only a little difference German GS <-> Danish GS: Looks, Danish has slightly more upkeep, 1 more range, 2 cut dmg instead of 2 thrust dmg. I'd say about 60% of your hits are swings, as swings got 3 directions out of 4 available, but maybe you thrust more and like to lolstab. I do, that's why I always prefered the German GS. My first decision to take the German GS, was however its style. :P

The Greatsword is shorter and faster. Never actually tried it(except for a few rounds), but I see some people outspamming me a bit. While using the heavier sword, I just need some patience to beat them then.

I used the Sword of War before, don't buy it for stabs (say, stabs alone..23p unloomed is not much).
I loved Claymore on siege, was amazing there.

Pick one, a German GS is rather easy to trade, compared to a Danish at least. Same goes for SoW afaik, and maybe Greatsword. Danish is far from being rare and you get it for an apple... (not the other way round! x) ). Claymore is not as rare as the Danish, but I managed to get it about 5 times during the last year for good trades. :)
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: Joseph Porta on April 15, 2013, 01:46:58 am
Claymore if you want to get sexy :P
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: Patoson on April 15, 2013, 12:16:54 pm
The problem about the DGS right now is that you won't get rid of it. I would go for the German one if I were you. They are not so different really, and it has a beautiful design too.

The claymore is just too short for my taste. It's good for siege, but not for battle, in my opinion.
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: MrShine on April 15, 2013, 04:17:18 pm
If you're looking for the best "bang for your buck" in terms of cost -> battle effectiveness, then definitely get a danish cause they are cheap as dirt on the market.

Otherwise if you are looking at the sword as an investment opportunity (you're going to trade it away & try to make money with it on the market) then think about one of the other swords.  I'd say highland claymore is more valuable but I've been out of the trading game for awhile.

Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: theprojectnemesis on April 15, 2013, 07:17:11 pm
Thing is almost everyone says the claymore is too short and some say the speed gain of the great sword isn't that faster (93 compared to 90) than the german
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: ARN_ on April 15, 2013, 08:20:48 pm
Nodachi.
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 15, 2013, 08:22:09 pm
Get the danish since it's so cheap and you're trying to find a weapon to use, not trying to resell on the market
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: theprojectnemesis on April 17, 2013, 03:25:34 am
What about MW nodachi or war cleaver?
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: ARN_ on April 18, 2013, 04:03:45 pm
What about MW nodachi or war cleaver?
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: Cup1d on April 19, 2013, 01:46:13 pm
Take real man weapon (2h great bardiche), laugh at avery shielder, one strike for every horse, maximum possible cut damage output.

If you cannot imagine yourself without sword - choose German GS. Stab is great tool on battlefield.
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: Legs on April 19, 2013, 07:07:06 pm
German greatsword is only 1 less length than the Danish but it feels much shorter to me, maybe because of the shape of the blade. The cut damage is also a little underwhelming for a greatsword. I'd definitely recommend the Danish over the German, especially since the Danish greatsword is so ridiculously cheap.

However, I'd recommend the claymore over either of them. It's faster AND hits harder. The shorter length may seem like a disadvantage, but consider that you won't always be using it in wide open spaces where you have room to swing. If you're fighting indoors, around obstacles or in a crowd it's much easier to swing a shorter weapon without catching your sword on something in the environment.
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: Kamirane on April 19, 2013, 08:20:22 pm
What about MW nodachi or war cleaver?

If i understood him right, he wants to have thrust and those dont have.

In my opinion the Danish has the most alrounding stats if u dont care the upkeep. If u care the later value for another choice or lesser upkeep, i would take the Claymore.

Maybe u will find some ppl on Duelserver to test both and findout yourself what u prefer.
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: Jarold on April 28, 2013, 09:30:37 pm
I would get the German because its stab is way OP. When it is MW it does like 31  29 pierce, and everyone knows lolstab is a staple in a 2h fighting style.
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: owens on May 01, 2013, 12:55:11 am
Miaodao

-   higher damage than the greatswords
-   much faster than the great swords
-   as long as the great swords


Katana speed, axe damage and greatsword reach


Its only weakeness is the lack of a stab and how boring winning every round might get.
Title: Re: German greatsword, claymore or danish?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 01, 2013, 04:52:38 am
Miaodao
Katana speed, axe damage and greatsword reach


It is 4 slower speed then a katana, and 5-9 length shorter then greatswords, with 2-6 damage less then the competitive axes. I think you exaggerated a bit there, though yes the Miaodao is a really nice sword.


Anywho, I suggest the German as it has a really nice stab which is wonderful when coupled with the animations that it has.