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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Haboe on March 28, 2013, 04:59:12 pm
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Allow alts to sign up for strat battles.
Needless to say only 1 char can be accepted per battle. Or only 1 char can apply per battle.
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So as needed you can throw in a mass of cav/hoplites for field battles? mass of archers/str maulers for sieges? etc.
Sounds amazing!!!
No thanks.
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What's strat again?
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I think allowing alts would be a bad idea. Basically, newer players would be punished for not having one of every build under the sun. It's not like older players don't have enough advantages.
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So as needed you can throw in a mass of cav/hoplites for field battles? mass of archers/str maulers for sieges? etc.
Sounds amazing!!!
No thanks.
This sounds hilarious actually. Can you imagine an army of pure cav alts, 50 war horses charging you at once.
Or pure pikemen:
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strat is dead anyway time for experiments so next game will not have same mistakes :P
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So as needed you can throw in a mass of cav/hoplites for field battles? mass of archers/str maulers for sieges? etc.
Sounds amazing!!!
No thanks.
Then there would be battles with composition based on strategies ?
That would be terrible indeed!
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Why do ppl minus Haboe? It is a great idea. It always was. Eliminates the main reason of multiaccaunting. Too bad chadz don't think the same way...
So as needed you can throw in a mass of cav/hoplites for field battles? mass of archers/str maulers for sieges? etc.
Sounds amazing!!!
No thanks.
As lvl 34 pure xbowman:
I'm useless on field battles
I'm useless when there are no xbows on the battle
I tired to pew-pew ppl for months not being able to do something else.
Gonna curse everyone who will suggest a respec or retire. :evil:
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I dislike the idea of totally randoms guys with totally random class .
With the actual formula more you play in strategus more you know peoples and they know you so you can't do crazy things. You have a class and it's really a good thing to think a lot about your build before to play. Stf allow will only permit a bunch of bullshit trolls and others crazy behaviour without any sanction because you could change your Stf every week.
Last point some spies could make a stf and only do the necessary to sabotage or not follow order and waste tickets
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I dislike the idea of totally randoms guys with totally random class .
With the actual formula more you play in strategus more you know peoples and they know you so you can't do crazy things. You have a class and it's really a good thing to think a lot about your build before to play. Stf allow will only permit a bunch of bullshit trolls and others crazy behaviour without any sanction because you could change your Stf every week.
Last point some spies could make a stf and only do the necessary to sabotage or not follow order and waste tickets
Ppl invented teamspeak & bans for such kind of behavior.
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Even if I'm agree with you Segd it's not black or white you could have lot of people which sabotage secretly.There are some sneaky guys who are able to play badly and avoid to be an evident troll , it's really complicated to see a troll in a strategus battle everytime .
Btw it's only my opinion cause i am able to play seriously only in strategus battle not in others mods where my focus is really bad.
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Even if I'm agree with you Segd it's not black or white you could have lot of people which sabotage secretly.There are some sneaky guys who are able to play badly and avoid to be an evident troll , it's really complicated to see a troll in a strategus battle everytime .
Btw it's only my opinion cause i am able to play seriously only in strategus battle not in others mods where my focus is really bad.
Then we need something like 50-100k fee per new character to allow him to play Strat battles.
Me & a lot of other ppl tired to play same battles with same classes. This mod definitely requires some changes.
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Good idea and i understand your feelings about strategus. I play only since 3 months in Crpg so i'm happy with my single class and it 's not boring for me ;-)
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Allow 1 second alt character for Strat. Don't allow STF chars however as that isnt the same. For a normal Alt character you got to invest time to level him up to lvl 30 at least to be useful and cause some dmg usually to other 30+.
I'm totally against STF chars and as many alts as possible though. :)
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I still like the idea of picking which kind of troop you wish to hire.. non able to change it to fit the battle situation... You pick a load out you are told how much it will cost to hire one troop with that armor and weapon and build.. you recruit. People who log into the server is like native they pick the 2 hand mauler and auto get that equipment.
Would be interesting to see what people think is needed on the field and no more equipment guessing games on if you brought enough of a type
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I'm totally against STF chars and as many alts as possible though. :)
Would really like to hear some arguments about why so.
Fury gave some :
- STF/alts have names that are harder to "know" (because of names) for people, but then, like Segd, I think TeamSpeak and just looking at the score/teamkill messages void much of those problems
- sabotages/spying still happens regularly and you cant fight it, just accept you dont have eyes everywhere and let the trolls be trolling, and the fighers fighting
- + it would not be "random classes showing up" if we had "provide stats" ticked all the time, and/or leaders asking such or such classes to show up and do a special job
and Turboflex implicitely gave a feeling that having classes having advantages in X battle situation showing up that would cause a bad thing but no reasoning behind it.
Whats the difference when you recruit a known (main) STR crutcher (like me) in a siege. Because I'm a main it doesnt sucks for the attackers ? Whats the difference if I was a agi-whore main, but showed up with my STF STR crutcher for the siege?
The only difference is : people CANT have fun with multiple classes on strategus.
If CRPG forbid alt/STF in cRPG battles, would long-time players still play today ? NO. GAME IS BORING IF YOU CANT CHANGE CLASSES.ยต
Alts already gives strat tickets to the main char on strategus, allow them to play in strat fights (and STF too if it came to that, but alts would already be quite an improvement).
Also, like I said numerous times, strategies would really gain a nice & new field of experiment if alts could show up.
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Gonna curse everyone who will suggest a respec or retire. :evil:
Retire.
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Gonna curse everyone who will suggest a respec or retire. :evil:
Retire.
I'm going to start studying russian sometime next autumn, so please give me small kick start over here :lol:
Back to topic: I don't think it would be a good idea. Like stated above, it would end up as mass hoplites and cav on open field. And archer, maulers and crossbows for sieges.
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I'm pretty sure this was once the case. You could join strat with whatever character you so desired. It was removed due to abuses.
Remember this lesson always: We, the players, are the reason we can't have nice things.
strat is dead anyway time for experiments so next game will not have same mistakes :P
If it is dead, it is because we have slain it. If it lives, it will be because we lent it life.