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Title: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: sumusiko on March 26, 2013, 11:49:34 pm
I'm an hoplite only lvl 22 atm but this is the build I was thinking of is about wearing spear + shield and shield + 1h so I want to be a versatile hoplite:

Lvl 30
Strength: 18
Agility: 21

Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 3


One Handed: 144
Polearm: 100


I know the shield is quite low but I already got shield 3 and my shield RARELY RARELY breaks so I see no point in getting higher shield.


What you think, what should I change or add and so on? I want this build to go grab kills and stay alive for long so I try to reach the top of the charts
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 27, 2013, 12:00:17 am
i have a 24/15 build. quite awesome. all wpf in polearms.
btw, i would certainly max your shieldskill out. its vital for your speed and it will surely break when you encounter a axeman
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: sumusiko on March 27, 2013, 12:02:52 am
i have a 24/15 build. quite awesome. all wpf in polearms.
btw, i would certainly max your shieldskill out. its vital for your speed and it will surely break when you encounter a axeman

higher shield skill means It will also work as if it decreases the shield weight?
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: Falka on March 27, 2013, 12:07:22 am
i would certainly max your shieldskill out. its vital for your speed

Meh, I don't see any difference  between 7 shield skil/elite cav shield and 5 shield skill/heavy round shield. Maybe I'm blind, dunno. But Teeth doesn't have only 3 shield skill?
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: sumusiko on March 27, 2013, 12:08:48 am
Meh, I don't see any difference  between 7 shield skil/elite cav shield and 5 shield skill/heavy round shield. Maybe I'm blind, dunno. But Teeth doesn't have only 3 shield skill?
nope he has 4
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: Malaclypse on March 27, 2013, 12:35:07 am
nope he has 4

4 is the perfect number IMO. More scavenging opportunities if your shield does break, opens up a world of different shields, more likely to have one to use in a strategus battle.

Also, if you're looking to be more survivable, especially if you're wearing lighter armor to utilize your 7 ath, I'd recommend getting some Ironflesh. The build I'd go for as 18/21 1h+spear/shield mix would be:

57 HP

2 Ironflesh
6 Powerstrike
4 Shield
7 Athletics
4 WM

116/91 split for proficiency.


Though honestly, I'd venture that for Level 30, 18/18 is a much better build. You could trade 1 Athletics for: Full WM, 1-2 more shield, 3-4 more IF.
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: sumusiko on March 27, 2013, 12:41:46 am
idk athletics helps alot positioning and moving faster since I have shield I'm super slow and it also increases the damage of spear (when moving at higher speed = more dmg) I might get like 130 1h and 100 polearms and get the extra point from WM to Ironflesh
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: cap on March 27, 2013, 04:55:53 pm
24str/15agi

8ps
5ath
5shield
5wm

~108 1hand
~118 polearm

Use a high dmg spear (ashwood, double sided, battle fork).
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on March 27, 2013, 04:59:51 pm
i would go for 18/18

6 ps
6 shield
6 wm
6 ath
5 if

150 polearm at least and rest on onehander
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: Teeth on March 27, 2013, 05:03:32 pm
I got 3 and even with an unloomed Round Shield I am quite satisfied with the strength of it. It does occasionally break though, but that prevents my blocking from getting too rusty  :P

I think you have an excellent build there, but you might consider going a little less 1h wpf and a little more polearm. As far as I know pole wpf also reduces stun time from stabbing blocks, which is helpful. It's not going to matter much of course either way.
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: Duster on March 27, 2013, 05:06:53 pm
Just finished up a gen of 21-18 full polearm hoplite, that 1 extra PS means a world of difference but 7 ath is probably almost equally as good and the extra wpf helps with hybridizing, good build OP.
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: Fredom on March 27, 2013, 07:59:10 pm
Well,
If you have a +3 shield, you can go for a build with just 9 or 12 agility. With 12 Agility, so 4 shield skill, yiu can use the "Heavy Board Shield". It's one of the best Hoplite-Shields in my opinion. So back to build xD, go for 24:15 or the build, wjere you Put ALL lf your points into Strength, just 9 or 12 agility.
Use an Ashwood pike or a War Spear, both quite good weapons. But with many STR you can easily kill EVERYONE with less hits. Also I would recommend using a Short Sword, because of the 0 slot system of them.
Greetz!
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: NJ_Legion_Icedtea on March 27, 2013, 10:26:54 pm
just been trying out this build recently, only on the first gen as hoplite though but it's been going well.

21/18

2 WM
6 Ath
4 IF
4 Shield
7 PS

deals good damage, especially with a loomed spear and the shield shouldn't need to be used that much in a supporting role

EDIT: and all Weapon Points go in pole, so it is a pure holpite build.
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: sumusiko on March 28, 2013, 01:03:11 am
i would go for 18/18

6 ps
6 shield
6 wm
6 ath
5 if

150 polearm at least and rest on onehander
Might go with this actually but the problem is that if I put 150 in polearm I'll only have like 90 in 1h and I need the extra attack speed from wpf in 1h to help me because my 1 on 1 with 1h is kinda bad and that extra speed means the world
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on March 28, 2013, 01:26:03 am
Might go with this actually but the problem is that if I put 150 in polearm I'll only have like 90 in 1h and I need the extra attack speed from wpf in 1h to help me because my 1 on 1 with 1h is kinda bad and that extra speed means the world
90 wpf is enough for onehand. you also have a shield you can block with a long time (hopefully you dont have axe enemies) and maybe choose a faster 1h weapon and you will see it works quite nice :)
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: sumusiko on March 28, 2013, 02:34:15 am
90 wpf is enough for onehand. you also have a shield you can block with a long time (hopefully you dont have axe enemies) and maybe choose a faster 1h weapon and you will see it works quite nice :)
Problem is that I must use a axe or hammer and I use military hammer because its better to shatter armor and there are no better hammer or axe than that 1
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: Normanguy on April 07, 2013, 11:20:22 am
which 1 handed sword is best to use as hoplite then or any 1 h weapon.

pls pm thanks :)
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: owens on April 07, 2013, 12:42:26 pm
achilles stick to something fast chances are you are against a fast opponent if you decide to put your spear away.

 I would consider the scimitar as it is cheap long and has good damage.
Title: Re: Hoplite build , need suggestions.
Post by: Normanguy on April 07, 2013, 12:56:25 pm
yeah indof what I was thinking thanks mate :)