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Title: [NA] Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Knute on March 24, 2013, 08:13:55 am
Open trade fiefs: These are places where you can buy and sell goods without asking permission.* 

*exceptions:
Nova Sekhtem - only open to people without fiefs.

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NA fiefs - price/tax/prosperity details
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Horses
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All Trade Goods: Ctrl or Command-F to search for origin of trade goods
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Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Keshian on March 24, 2013, 08:21:22 am
Looks awesome!!

Couple updates - Curaw's sell price is now 25, also ismirala castle on NA side is also open to trade.

Reyvadin has 27% tax, 1000+ prosperity, 8 buy price

Also, Curaw has 666 prosperity in commemoration of witchcraft's spell of resurrection in a nearby castle.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Muki on March 24, 2013, 08:27:57 am
Very nice thanks for the map. Do like the name you gave to the desert
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Visconti on March 24, 2013, 08:47:46 am
Very good looking map, +1
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Artyem on March 24, 2013, 08:55:35 am
Lol, Afgoonistan.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 24, 2013, 01:14:06 pm
small change to Reindi: 15% tax rate.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 24, 2013, 01:58:19 pm
Odd that afghoonistan was properly illustrated in the map but no mention of the MURDERZONE...
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Butan on March 24, 2013, 01:59:49 pm
Very good post idea.


Do you have a version of those 2 maps with all fiefs showing that I could use to work on?
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Vermilion on March 24, 2013, 05:32:24 pm
Nice work. Will be handy as long as it stay up to date.. Any idea how closely you will monitor changes?
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Syls on March 24, 2013, 05:59:04 pm
Sweet map ! Ehlerdah price is at 7 right now.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: BaleOhay on March 24, 2013, 06:24:16 pm
most of the fiefs on the NA side are FCC fiefs and they will remain open to all. As long as people stay away from our closed fiefs we have no problems sharing.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: arowaine on March 24, 2013, 06:29:23 pm


you are missing LOC fief open to all except people who own a fief. As for afgonistan be careful if you  build tower near by!
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Conquisitore on March 24, 2013, 08:57:43 pm
The Map:
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Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: partyboy on March 24, 2013, 10:39:04 pm
Ugh, I rely on a lot of this S&D not being used so I can scoop a lot at once :(

edit: Actually, I've been thinking about making a new rule of you can only take what is over 1k s&d.  Consider it to be the rule now.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Knute on March 25, 2013, 05:08:09 am
Quote from: Butan on March 24, 2013, 01:59:49 pm
Do you have a version of those 2 maps with all fiefs showing that I could use to work on?

Thank you, I just traced over another map that already had fiefs then added the strategus version of the forests and flipped it for the NA side.  I'll probably redo a few things on this one like the mountains/forests and add more detail but here's the original map and font used (viking) then some blank versions.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/297/mapinenglishcopy.jpg/
http://www.mythicalireland.com/art/wallpapers/fonts.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/22/natrademap1clean.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/8537/natrademap1cleaneu.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img534/3064/euandnamap6clean1.jpg

Quote from: Vermilion on March 24, 2013, 05:32:24 pm
Nice work. Will be handy as long as it stay up to date.. Any idea how closely you will monitor changes?

It's just a snapshot of what's available at the moment, so I won't have to update it that much aside from this initial missing tax/prosperity info since people usually just increase prosperity.  You can see prices by clicking on fiefs but I thought the tax and prosperity would be especially useful to know before making long trips.

Quote from: partyboy on March 24, 2013, 10:39:04 pm
Ugh, I rely on a lot of this S&D not being used so I can scoop a lot at once :(

I was considering the same thing but for people who already own fiefs there's some benefit in pointing independent traders and small clans toward spots where they can buy/sell without asking permission.

Hopefully at least a few of these open trade fiefs will keep their taxes low!  If people have to pay 40-60% of the profits in taxes between open trade fiefs, the closed trade fiefs will probably start looking worth the risk.

Quote from: arowaine on March 24, 2013, 06:29:23 pm
you are missing LOC fief open to all except people who own a fief. As for afgonistan be careful if you  build tower near by!

It's Sekhtem right?  I'm just going by what's in Elindor's trade policy thread.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Butan on March 25, 2013, 02:12:33 pm
Appreciate the sharing of your work for free (as always  :D)
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 25, 2013, 06:34:24 pm
the center divide looks oddly like a woman's reproductive organs, coincidence?
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Knute on March 25, 2013, 07:58:17 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on March 25, 2013, 06:34:24 pm
the center divide looks oddly like a woman's reproductive organs, coincidence?

I was thinking the same thing, it's like a rorschach test.  The lower part of the middle also kinda looks like one of the aliens from Independence Day.

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Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Nightingale on March 25, 2013, 07:58:57 pm
NA side, Tadsamesh is green and open to everyone that wants to use it.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: SanGliers_Manouck on March 25, 2013, 08:16:09 pm
Knute president !!!  8-)
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: partyboy on March 26, 2013, 12:06:36 am
Quote from: partyboy on March 24, 2013, 10:39:04 pm
edit: Actually, I've been thinking about making a new rule of you can only take what is over 1k s&d.  Consider it to be the rule now.

Please reflect this in the op before they take away my precious goods


edit:  someone just took it all, please remove me from free trade.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: SanGliers_Manouck on March 27, 2013, 06:41:06 pm
hi knute,

you can add Gisim in your open trade fief list.
it's a property of the Ecorcheur clan (dark green)
Goods costs 22 gold.
25% of tax
proserity of 500.

come guys
Goods are sexy bitches.
Quality is guaranteed.
Tested and approved by all Ecorcheur clan  8-)

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 27, 2013, 06:47:14 pm
Still have best Free Trade fief on both EU and NA side. 15% tax. Beat that you other Free Trade Fiefs.(also soon to be 500 Prosperity!)

Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Haboe on March 27, 2013, 06:58:00 pm
Hosting free trade area is for wusses!

But yea, dhirim area is like 15-20%
Sargoth area... i think 15%, depends on what the nords/ ottomans did with em

Prosperity is 500- 1500 in all fiefs afaik.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Knute on April 02, 2013, 11:56:40 am
Quote from: SanGliers_Manouck on March 27, 2013, 06:41:06 pm
hi knute,

you can add Gisim in your open trade fief list.
it's a property of the Ecorcheur clan (dark green)
Goods costs 22 gold.
25% of tax
proserity of 500.

come guys
Goods are sexy bitches.
Quality is guaranteed.
Tested and approved by all Ecorcheur clan  8-)

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Very nice, thanks for opening it up.

Quote from: Lt_Anders on March 27, 2013, 06:47:14 pm
Still have best Free Trade fief on both EU and NA side. 15% tax. Beat that you other Free Trade Fiefs.(also soon to be 500 Prosperity!)

You might have the best one stop shop for gear but TKoV might have you beat because both their open trade fiefs have really low taxes and high prosperity iirc.  I can't remember what Ayyike was but at least Elherdah is only 5% and 600 prosperity. 
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Butan on April 04, 2013, 02:40:20 pm
You can add that Knute

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/to-all-sd-rapists-from-ghuraba-caliphate/



P.S.: can you tell me what is the police you are using for the fief's names on your map?
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Knute on April 04, 2013, 06:41:02 pm
Quote from: Butan on April 04, 2013, 02:40:20 pm

P.S.: can you tell me what is the police you are using for the fief's names on your map?

Thanks for the info, I'll update it later.  You mean policy for what fief's to show on the map? 

It's only the fiefs that don't require permission to use or have restrictions on how much S&D you can take, no rules so no rules can be broken.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Butan on April 04, 2013, 07:06:59 pm
No I meant the police, as in, the style you use for the letters on the map ^^ I want to do a similar thing with the vanilla version you provided

I meant what font are you using (font = police in french, my bad)  :lol: I though it was an english word
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Knute on April 04, 2013, 07:45:55 pm
Ah, that makes more sense.   :)

It's the Viking font on this page:

http://www.mythicalireland.com/art/wallpapers/fonts.html

Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Jack1 on April 21, 2013, 09:22:51 pm
Bump. Important post getting lost
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 22, 2013, 03:09:31 pm
The free peasants are always doing more than their fare share! Our hobo network supplies information to the masses!

Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Rhalzo on April 22, 2013, 05:35:29 pm
Quote from: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 22, 2013, 03:09:31 pm
The free peasants are always doing more than their fare share! Our hobo network supplies information to the masses!

Frank, when are you coming back to us? I miss you riding your horse into people and swinging your weapon madly.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Keshian on April 24, 2013, 02:25:07 am
Not sure if its up there already - Ibiran, Ichamur, and Dhirigh Aban all open for free trade as well now in NA.  The Free Companies of Calradia are building a free trade network across most of the north, please enjoy making use of it as much as you want no restrictions - we have 1000+ prosperity in multiple fiefs.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Jack1 on April 24, 2013, 02:53:37 am
Chaos and FCC, you might want to clarify if feifs won/lost/reclaimed are still free trade. I know chaos had just taken one free trade feif.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: BaleOhay on April 24, 2013, 03:23:01 am
We attacked it again. It will return to open shortly if we win
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Jack1 on April 24, 2013, 03:35:55 am
I kinda ment in future cercomstances, I mean, there is a chance they could push you off those feifs for a period of time.
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Keshian on April 24, 2013, 03:41:31 am
Quote from: Risen_Jack on April 24, 2013, 03:35:55 am
I kinda ment in future cercomstances, I mean, there is a chance they could push you off those feifs for a period of time.

LOL
Title: Re: Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 24, 2013, 03:43:11 am
Quote from: Rhalzo on April 22, 2013, 05:35:29 pm
Frank, when are you coming back to us? I miss you riding your horse into people and swinging your weapon madly.

I was plunking away with an arb in the the other day helping Occitan hold Hawhahwhawhannawnnnnnnn. I actauly got a positive kd... ha!
Title: Re: [NA] Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Knute on May 19, 2013, 06:05:38 am
Updated this map a little bit, removed Ehlerdah and added a bunch of FCC fiefs.  Also added a color system that shows where the high/low price fiefs are located and approximately what their tax rates might be (specific tax info if available is in the spoiler under the pic).  I'm just doing the NA side for the moment while messing around with adding new things.

This is the type of map a bunch of independent traders on the EU side were using in strat v.3 to share info since prices went up and down randomly.  Everyone would add info to a google spreadsheet (nerd alert) as they roamed around then we had a map for quick reference:

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Title: Re: [NA] Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Dach on May 19, 2013, 09:14:17 am
Nice map! Would you incorporate the upgraded gear and discount too?

If yes, I'll keep you updated with the info for Sungetche and Bhulaban.

Btw Sungetche pros is 500. I'll try to get the pros of Bhulaban, don't remember it right now.

@Anders: You got dethroned  :twisted:
Title: Re: [NA] Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 19, 2013, 10:00:38 pm
Quote from: Dach on May 19, 2013, 09:14:17 am
@Anders: You got dethroned  :twisted:

Question: what do you mean? In terms of Fiefs Mine is better, subjectively.
Title: Re: [NA] Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: ShiftKnife on June 17, 2013, 09:57:09 am
Hear ye, hear ye. New Slezkh and Nova Tahlberl are now closed due to change of leadership. Thank you for the understanding.
Title: Re: [NA] Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 17, 2013, 06:19:09 pm
But I don't understand, I'm coming to buy S&D already, I demand compensation...
Title: Re: [NA] Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: Zoarander on June 19, 2013, 10:02:31 pm
Ibiran, chide, burglen, and kelredan castle are now closed.

Contact Lumetta and Zoarander for futher details.

Contact VoTN_Sparticus for permissions to go into Ibiran

Title: Re: [NA] Open Trade Fiefs - Map and Info
Post by: arowaine on June 20, 2013, 06:27:10 am
there is no tax at sektem and its isnt open border there we got 1 fief open to everyone and it is weyach castle!