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Title: Boar spear got changed
Post by: owens on March 20, 2013, 05:38:43 am
Boar spear 21p on swings!

but only 24p on stabs



double ended lance reamains with 16blunt.... It should have been changed to 23-4 cut
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Armycook_of_KSantiago on March 20, 2013, 06:27:44 am
21p on swing?????
explain how can u do pierce damage with a spear's side
they should make it like 26c or even higher but pierce...just unscientific
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: oohillac on March 20, 2013, 06:43:04 am
That spear was terrible speed- and length-wise before, this is a welcome balance!

21p on swing?????
explain how can u do pierce damage with a spear's side
they should make it like 26c or even higher but pierce...just unscientific
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Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Malaclypse on March 20, 2013, 06:54:40 am
That spear was terrible speed- and length-wise before, this is a welcome balance!

Indeed, it also makes it a pretty unique weapon; I'm glad to see that a lot low-mid tier polearms, specifically spears and staves, finally got their well deserved adjustments.
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: LordRichrich on March 20, 2013, 07:36:29 am
6 str pole build suddenly vecame appealing
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on March 20, 2013, 08:24:29 am
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Look at it, it has pokey bits behind the spear head. Is it really that hard to imagine this spear doing pierce damage when swung sideways?

I'm glad to see this balance change. More variety of weapons is a great thing. Especially the cheap ones that people normally use as backup weapons. Adds a lot of variety to the fight.
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Dach on March 20, 2013, 08:59:42 am
Spear that was deserved... staff went from good to very very good... (might as well say OP)  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Tovi on March 20, 2013, 11:01:12 am
That not really the way it's supposed to be used.
It's more to push (or block) the boar after the hit. To keep the distance with the animal.


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L'épieu de chasse (spiculum = pointe) est un fer long et puissant, monté sur une forte hampe de bois et pourvu d'une croisette (la "billette" des armoiries) pour maintenir l'animal à distance. Ce fer distingue l'épieu de la lance de chasse. La longueur de sa hampe, pour être maniable dans les fourrés, ne dépasse guère la taille d'un homme. La forme du fer varie suivant l'époque, le pays et le goût des veneurs. Une pointe affilée pénètre profondément et entraîne une mort rapide si elle est bien placée. Une lame large provoque une hémorragie plus abondante.
Ecrivant vers -400- son Traité de chasse, Xénophon décrit l'épieu destiné à chasser le sanglier : " L'épieu doit avoir une lame d'une quarantaine de centimètres, avec de grosses dents à mi-longueur de la douille forgées d'une pièce et ouvertes vers l'extérieur; et la hampe doit être de bois de cornouiller aussi mince que celui d'un épieu de guerre."

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The spear hunting (spiculum = tip) is a powerful and long iron, mounted on a heavy wooden shaft and provided with a small cross (the "billet" of the arms) for holding the animal at a distance. This distinguishes iron lance spear hunting. The length of his shaft, to be handy in the bushes, barely exceeds the size of a man. The form of iron varies depending on the time, the country and the taste of huntsmen. A sharp point penetrates deeply and causes a quick death if it is well placed. A wide blade causes bleeding more abundant.
Writing to -400 - his Treatise on Hunting, Xenophon describes the spear for boar hunting: "The spear blade must have a forty centimeters, with large teeth at mid-length of the socket forged from and a part open to the outside, and the shaft must be dogwood as thin as that of a spear war. "
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Joseph Porta on March 20, 2013, 01:19:30 pm
21p on swing?????
explain how can u do pierce damage with a spear's side
they should make it like 26c or even higher but pierce...just unscientific
I think it's based on the models spiky sides? But yeah, bit weird!
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Rhekimos on March 20, 2013, 01:43:20 pm
It makes the boar spear less of a useless relic, which is good.
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Parre on March 20, 2013, 02:33:14 pm
I heard they buffed my agi stacker, Slowpoke? :)

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Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 20, 2013, 02:45:36 pm
It makes the boar spear less of a useless relic, which is good.

How so, it's a peasant weapon?  I still used it when I was at like level 3 or so
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Ronin on March 20, 2013, 02:47:59 pm
Do the spears have knockdown?
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Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 20, 2013, 02:49:23 pm
Do the spears have knockdown?

I sure hope not.
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Gurnisson on March 20, 2013, 03:25:37 pm
Do the spears have knockdown?

No, why would they? They don't have any knockdown tag.
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Ronin on March 20, 2013, 03:30:49 pm
Oh my bad. Forgot about the tags visible on the crpg site. It just made me remember long spiked club which has pierce damage and knockdown.
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 20, 2013, 03:32:27 pm
Oh my bad. Forgot about the tags visible on the crpg site. It just made me remember long spiked club which has pierce damage and knockdown.

As far as I know, only the blunt poke has knockdown on the long spiked club.
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: Tydeus on March 20, 2013, 03:33:19 pm
As far as I know, only the blunt poke has knockdown on the long spiked club.
This, could probably use more damage on its thrust though.
Title: Re: Boar spear got changed
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 20, 2013, 03:41:11 pm
This, could probably use more damage on its thrust though.

Maybe a 1 or 2, though it seems like ~20B is the standard for blunt stabs. long iron mace, the fisters, staff, quarter staff. Only outlier I see is the iron staff.