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Title: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Abay on March 19, 2013, 04:46:41 pm
This guyz make me really mad. I dont know why they dont want realism instead of damn balance thing. I think you want to keep long fighting time in servers but this will make this game for -18 boyz. I dont know how a man can get up and fight after a horse crushes him with his huge weight and tiny horseshoes. You nerfed them instead of buffing their charge! There are two options.
1-) You really dont know how they are in real.(But you are asking us a real source in history when we show a new weapon to you=This create a paradox in you)
2-) You try to make this game -18 (That is what I think)

 :cry:
Title: Re: Horses ot nerf?
Post by: Rebelyell on March 19, 2013, 04:48:39 pm
nerf?
that was rebalance
Title: Re: Horses ot nerf?
Post by: Abay on March 19, 2013, 04:50:23 pm
Quote from: Rebelyell on March 19, 2013, 04:48:39 pm
rebalance
Hate that word
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: jtobiasm on March 19, 2013, 04:52:27 pm
You want to talk about realism? I bet if they said "we're making archers 1 shot kill in the chest". I doubt you'll want realism. Stop whining it's a tiny nerf.  It actually means all the bad cav who go around bumping to get kills actually need to use their sword.
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Abay on March 19, 2013, 04:54:52 pm
Quote from: jtobiasm on March 19, 2013, 04:52:27 pm
You want to talk about realism? I bet if they said "we're making archers 1 shot kill in the chest". I doubt you'll want realism. Stop whining it's a tiny nerf.  It actually means all the bad cav who go around bumping to get kills actually need to use their sword.
I was with archers when they got nerf also, check old posts and write again!
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: jtobiasm on March 19, 2013, 04:57:09 pm
Quote from: Hurricane on March 19, 2013, 04:54:52 pm
I was with archers when they got nerf also, check old posts and write again!
But I don't see the problem? It's just making cav more skill full and now you have to think more. :D
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Tristan on March 19, 2013, 04:58:18 pm
I did not understand one word of what you (the op) wrote, but it seemed like you talk about realism?

It so happens I agree, so vote for mee... Here:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/%28applications%29-item-balancers/45/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/%28applications%29-item-balancers/45/)

If you didn't read the memo:
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Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Abay on March 19, 2013, 04:58:39 pm
Quote from: jtobiasm on March 19, 2013, 04:57:09 pm
But I don't see the problem? It's just making cav more skill full and now you have to think more. :D
Look at their charge please. Destrier has 18 for example  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: jtobiasm on March 19, 2013, 05:01:11 pm
Quote from: Hurricane on March 19, 2013, 04:58:39 pm
Look at their charge please. Destrier has 18 for example  :rolleyes:

Yeah so? Use a heavier horse, like I said, it really should only effect bad cav as good one will use their sword/lance in stead of relying on a bump.
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 19, 2013, 05:03:33 pm
100% realism would kill the mod...arrows would bounce off plated armor 99% of the time (unless they got a lucky hit on a joint), and horses would knock people unconscious or break limbs when they ran into you. 

The only people playing would be strength crutchers and knights on horse.

I say this as someone who typically only plays lancer cav.

The only way to balance the horse with realistic bumping would be if people could brace pikes/long spears.  Which I do not think is possible (if it is possible, then all weapons should have "passive" damage assigned to them, even if you're not swinging them)
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Abay on March 19, 2013, 05:03:55 pm
Quote from: jtobiasm on March 19, 2013, 05:01:11 pm

Yeah so? Use a heavier horse, like I said, it really should only effect bad cav as good one will use their sword/lance in stead of relying on a bump.
I mean realism buddy. The other conditions are not my concern. If a horse crush you in battlefield, your getting up and keeping fighting is almost impossible. That is what I am trying to tell
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on March 19, 2013, 05:04:55 pm
You want realism in a video game?

Ok so when i slash you, you must die, when i shoot you, you must die, when i kick you, you must stagger away because ive just crushed your puny balls, realism removes fun from the game, they have balanced it to keep the fun in the game so everyone continues to play.
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: jtobiasm on March 19, 2013, 05:05:11 pm
Quote from: Hurricane on March 19, 2013, 05:03:55 pm
I mean realism buddy. The other conditions are not my concern. If a horse crush you in battlefield, your getting up and keeping fighting is almost impossible. That is what I am trying to tell

Yeah but when has the mod been realistic.   :D :oops: :) :cry: :( :evil: :twisted: :o :shock: :rolleyes: :wink: :? :!: :?: :lol: :idea: :mad: :P :arrow: 8-) :| :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: XyNox on March 19, 2013, 05:12:19 pm
Quote from: Hurricane on March 19, 2013, 05:03:55 pm
I mean realism buddy. The other conditions are not my concern. If a horse crush you in battlefield, your getting up and keeping fighting is almost impossible. That is what I am trying to tell

jtobiasm said it already, gameplay > realism. You might not stand up after a horsebump in real life but you certainly would not be able to walk around the battlefield with 4 arrows sticking out of your body/arms/legs as well. Bumps still knockdown/stagger like before. As I see it, it only punishes those cav players who are too bad to use their weapon appropriately and thats a good thing.
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Abay on March 19, 2013, 05:14:25 pm
Quote from: jtobiasm on March 19, 2013, 05:05:11 pm
Yeah but when has the mod been realistic.   :D :oops: :) :cry: :( :evil: :twisted: :o :shock: :rolleyes: :wink: :? :!: :?: :lol: :idea: :mad: :P :arrow: 8-) :| :mrgreen:
Yea true, maybe I overacted when I saw the update after I came from the class. Nevermind, huesby is true also.
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Korgoth on March 19, 2013, 05:46:08 pm
Quote from: Hurricane on March 19, 2013, 04:46:41 pm
This guyz make me really mad. I dont know why they dont want realism instead of damn balance thing. I think you want to keep long fighting time in servers but this will make this game for -18 boyz. I dont know how a man can get up and fight after a horse crushes him with his huge weight and tiny horseshoes. You nerfed them instead of buffing their charge! There are two options.
1-) You really dont know how they are in real.(But you are asking us a real source in history when we show a new weapon to you=This create a paradox in you)
2-) You try to make this game -18 (That is what I think)

 :cry:

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Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Ronin on March 19, 2013, 05:54:53 pm
I liked the changes. They begun balancing light and heavy horses now. As they couldn't increase the bump damage of heavy horses even further, they decreased the bump damage of light horses. Remember, those are light horses, useful for skirmishing and hit-run tactics.

Ever tried playing cav in vikingr? It's not a good idea to even bump someone as it can even result a dismount. Cavalry are excellent skirmishers there. Well... adding this feature would be overkill to cRPG as infantry moves much slower in vikingr too.

All in all, I liked the changes. It was not that bump was doing such a big damage. It's a very small nerf to light cavalry I'd say.
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Falka on March 19, 2013, 06:47:36 pm
Quote from: Hurricane on March 19, 2013, 04:46:41 pm
This guyz make me really mad. I dont know why they dont want realism instead of damn balance thing.
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2-) You try to make this game -18 (That is what I think)

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Horsemen's tears, music for my ears  8-)
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Abay on March 19, 2013, 07:04:11 pm
Actually I am no horseman  :D
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: brockssn on March 19, 2013, 07:05:58 pm
i just lost 1/4 health at lvl 30 to a courser hitting me. its so gay
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Shemaforash on March 19, 2013, 07:09:25 pm
Quote from: brockssn on March 19, 2013, 07:05:58 pm
i just lost 1/4 health at lvl 30 to a courser hitting me. its so gay

Which is rather low
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: XyNox on March 19, 2013, 07:23:01 pm
Quote from: brockssn on March 19, 2013, 07:05:58 pm
i just lost 1/4 health at lvl 30 to a courser hitting me. its so gay

Uh, are you trying to say that its too high or too low ??
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: brockssn on March 19, 2013, 07:30:50 pm
thats way too high
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Tibe on March 19, 2013, 07:45:27 pm
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: brockssn on March 19, 2013, 07:55:24 pm
i think he's argueing that if any weapon hits a horse it should fall over and cry
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Shemaforash on March 19, 2013, 08:15:45 pm
Quote from: TiberiusX on March 19, 2013, 07:45:27 pm

Upvote because of good song  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Horses got nerf?
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on March 19, 2013, 09:44:05 pm
The re balance was needed given the added horses, each horse has to fulfill some sort of niche. However if you have a loomed horse or any loomed item that is significantly altered i think a loom refund isnt out of the question even though it never happens.