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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: Segd on March 18, 2013, 10:43:07 pm
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http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2911
We tried to build about 5 of them at the beginning of the battle & all of them didn't spawn(like there is a limit already)
We succeeded only when we destroyed some of the enemy's racks. :?
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i wasnt at the battle, but i think there is a global limit of 5 weapon racks and when defenders build 5 up attackers cant build even one anymore.
pretty clever but in my eyes not cool tactic.
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yep lame as fuck
there should be no global limit for anything in strat
why?
simple example:
on siege defenders can spam ledders, CS siege shields weapon racks.... everything that have limit and wach enemies standing under walls like idiots
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yep lame as fuck
there should be no global limit for anything in strat
why?
simple example:
on siege defenders can spam ledders, CS siege shields weapon racks.... everything that have limit and wach enemies standing under walls like idiots
And then spam in chat sm like "u are attackers attack or we will start ban u" :P
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And then spam in chat sm like "u are attackers attack or we will start ban u" :P
:lol:
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And then spam in chat sm like "u are attackers attack or we will start ban u" :P
fucking LOL
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I think the weapon rack is like, the only siege equipment with a global limit, instead of a team limit like everything else (except siege shield too), wonder why is that so? The logic should apply to everything.
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Yeah fighting against a rediculious limit is annoying, i remember so many battles where we were completely unable to use siege shields cos our enemies would spam them at their spawn simply to deny us.
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We had the issue fighting greys, within 2 minutes they managed to get the rack limit in their castle :P
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Bump! Still need fix.
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Now a globally known issue...
What people should do -
Agree that you only spawn maximum of 3 weapon racks so the enemy has at least two (first to get 3 has the extra one)
What people will do -
Get 5 people to spawn with construction sites and everyone else with material then build all 5 as quick as possible.
Shame on you all :D
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I think most players are mature enough not to exploit this, it shows a lack of respect those that do.
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Hopefully devs will fix this and it the mean time admins make it a banable offence to spam weapon racks. I can't think of any scenario where you need more than 3 weapon racks..
Castles
Attackers - 1 at spawn, 1 at catapults and 1 at forward spawn
Defenders - 1 at one side and 1 at the other (or 1 on wall, 1 ground level)
villages/battle
Attackers or defenders - 1 at spawn, 1 at forward spawn
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5 is still pretty low...
Why you can have like 30 ladders of each sort and 5 weapons rack ? :|
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I agree you should not try and spawn 5 out at the start. Its lame. I have seen it done a couple of times lately just shitty sportmanship
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I think most players are mature enough not to exploit this, it shows a lack of respect those that do.
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I think most players are mature enough not to exploit this, it shows a lack of respect those that do.
Hell, we are mature enough to exploit it to its limits :D :D :D
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best use of gif in context I ever saw
I used anti-ladders, spawned as much as possible racks/siege shield/ladders, used spawn on enemy forward spawn, exploited my HP to jump from very high on forward spawn and destroy it...
And im laughing like this guy in the gif while I do... :lol:
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Bugs like this, and those that exploit them, are the reason why strat will forever be the domain of sperglords. I don't see why it's funny...
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We all play a bugged game, as long as its not fixed and or punished, everyone do as they please inside its boundaries.
I would enjoy a bugless game with unbroken mechanism but, till then...
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Bad butan... stop spreading your evilness
Spamming weapon racks produces shit boring sieges.. If you don't want to have fun defending your castle don't own one.. Strat is a game on conquering land not turtling and seeing how many troops you can produce before you get bored and move on to a different game
It's a bug have fun with it but don't abuse it (by this I mean at the start of a siege spam 5 weapon racks and taunt your opponent for their inferior build skills, then destroy 2 of them without saying anything, if your enemy is smart enough they will soon learn they have two working weapon racks, if not then they shouldn't be trying to siege.. stick to the chaos of land battles)
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It's not like these guys actually do any fighting anyway. So many people cry about strat being boring and stagnant, when they get fiefs they sit there and do fuck all.
Your attitude towards exploiting all bugs whenever possible is exactly what makes the game so boring.
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This is a false problem, I just presented the fact that you cant do fuck all about all that; you can speak about morale or realism or whatever, its down to whether you do it or not.
The real problem is that we are still playing a game, even knowing about all those problems, and we try to get around it in whatever way we can.
Then, about the weapon racks themselves... 5 is an astoundingly low limit, you can build them in less than a minute if you're fast enough... During the preparation phase! If I was really playing just to win, I would do that in every defensive battles I got on.
5 weapons racks in one castle wouldnt be over-stretching either, there is more than 1 or 2 archers spot in a siege. Also, you want to have some weapons racks already built in case the first are destroyed. So not only it is "allowed", but it is also completely worthy from the strategical point of view (without talking about the "denying" items limit). So trying to put an artificial limit of 2 or 3 per side would be accepting the fact that this part of strategus is fine, instead of willing this situation to be fixed.
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You need to accept the fact that strategus bugs are not going to be fixed. I agree that pulling a move like that has its own justifications but its still a total cunt move. I can't wait to see you attack something on strat.
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I have been on the receiving and giving end of everything I mentionned, with my armies or armies of others, and this is what I learned.
Then you can be a total cunt and prove me wrong (while proving me right) and do what I did and roster against me, I cant do anything to force you not to. Freedom in the boundaries of what is allowed in this game.
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I'm only on about half the nights (7 out of 14 days) so in only about half the NA strat battles for prime time. As far as I know, this hasn't really been a problem, but I can certainly foresee it being one if someone wanted to be a dick. It would be very easy for the defenders to spawn 5 weapon racks at the start and fuck over the attackers. I'm honestly surprised it doesn't happen in every battle or siege. Hopefully people will remain "not douchebags" but it's crpg, I can't see that taking long to be the new normal thing to do.
It's been over 2 months since this was suggested, would be nice to see dev's respond. My guess is that they see the title of the thread and are assuming right away it has to do with the item limit (aka item bombing), and not the 5 construction site limit.
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I'm only on about half the nights (7 out of 14 days) so in only about half the NA strat battles for prime time. As far as I know, this hasn't really been a problem, but I can certainly foresee it being one if someone wanted to be a dick. It would be very easy for the defenders to spawn 5 weapon racks at the start and fuck over the attackers. I'm honestly surprised it doesn't happen in every battle or siege. Hopefully people will remain "not douchebags" but it's crpg, I can't see that taking long to be the new normal thing to do.
It's been over 2 months since this was suggested, would be nice to see dev's respond. My guess is that they see the title of the thread and are assuming right away it has to do with the item limit (aka item bombing), and not the 5 construction site limit.
I think it has happened once in an NA siege. Surprisingly there wasn't much forum drama about it but knowing the factions involved I would imagine they spoke privately and agreed that it wouldn't happen again.
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Fcc makes a point of only ever building three. That should be the rule. If the devs will not set it that way so far na at least has been sticking to that. My sincere hope it stays that way or that the mercs on the offending side would regulate it for the commanders trying to be jackasses.
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I'm pretty cut throat, but I would be completely against trying to game the other side into not building c-sites (well unless it was our last castle and we were going to lose)...no seriously, I probably would still break a couple sites just so we weren't "cheating" to win. If your mercs didn't outright break a couple sites, I'm sure you'd lose a lot of mercs in your future battles if a faction tried to do this. Glad that it's not been an issue on NA side, which is really surprising to me.
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good luck getting this fixed
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has this been fixed yet? :S
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I do not believe so. NA side has been using honor system and not maxing them out from my experience. It should remain that way. If a clan desires to a dick move like that I would hope the mercs on that side would man up and break two regardless of what they are being ordered. If not then the clans join up and crush the offenders
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I wonder if there is a global large siege tower limit...
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Seeing the ridiculous number of siege towers you can create on EU_3 duel, I dont think so :mrgreen: (even though, does EU_3 duel have a limit system too?)
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They only limited the number of racks to 5 last year. And it's fucking stupid.