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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: F i n on March 10, 2013, 05:32:23 pm
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First, by changing the time needed to switch weapon modes,
Second, by removing jumpthrowing,
Third by overpowering shields
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Tell me cus ive got no clue :(
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Thrid by overpowering shields
Huh :?:
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Huh :?:
Those new shields probably.
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Yep, now you need to use up most of your ammo to break the shield.
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RETURN THE OLD WEAPON MODE CHANGING TIMES OR FIN WILL RETIRE AND GIVE ME THE LOOM
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Don't aim for shielders??
On my thrower alt i tend to target anyone without a shield, or with their back turned to me - it works more than targetting shielders, however the jumpthrowing is annoying :3
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It probably looked kind of like this:
2h: olololo blaacne taem !!!
balance team: How can we help ?
2h: nurf dem throwerz plix plox
balance team: why
2h: cuz he throws and then like he hit in melee before I oneshot him omgwtf lol good joke
balance team: But he is supposed to be switching weapon modes with throwing weapons and be able to hit you in melee. You have the better melee build and should be able to fight him just fine.
2h: teh fuq if i spam mah danish i has to get dem kills ! iz justicce !!!!1
balance team: Oh you are are 2h ? In that case, consider it done sir. Thank you for reporting this issue.
:lol:
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It probably looked kind of like this:
2h: olololo blaacne taem !!!
balance team: How can we help ?
2h: nurf dem throwerz plix plox
balance team: why
2h: cuz he throws and then like he hit in melee before I oneshot him omgwtf lol good joke
balance team: But he is supposed to be switching weapon modes with throwing weapons and be able to hit you in melee. You have the better melee build and should be able to fight him just fine.
2h: teh fuq if i spam mah danish i has to get dem kills ! iz justicce !!!!1
balance team: Oh you are are 2h ? In that case, consider it done sir. Thank you for reporting this issue.
:lol:
Ask Fin about his opinion regarding archers, I dare you.
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Ask Fin about his opinion regarding archers, I dare you.
Oh I am quite aware of his opinion as he keeps ragepolling me when I shoot him and he keeps punching me as soon as he is in my team :lol:
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Oh I am quite aware of his opinion as he keeps ragepolling me when I shoot him and he keeps punching me as soon as he is in my team :lol:
Fin ragepolls me when he shoots me when he's in my team. Beat that.
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I personally think its more of the satisfaction I get now when an axe crunches into a head :D
(my team or theirs)
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I personally think its more of the satisfaction I get now when an axe crunches into a head :D (my team or theirs)
Hahaha (my team or theirs) brilliant :lol:
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What is with lower ammo nerf?
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dunno it still seemed ok to me when i was playing eu1 with a thrower main (mw jarids) a few days last week, generally did ok.
sure i miss the days when my 10pt was useful and i could jump and throw over a face huggers shield but well we move on :D
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It probably looked kind of like this:
2h: olololo blaacne taem !!!
balance team: How can we help ?
2h: nurf dem throwerz plix plox
balance team: why
2h: cuz he throws and then like he hit in melee before I oneshot him omgwtf lol good joke
balance team: But he is supposed to be switching weapon modes with throwing weapons and be able to hit you in melee. You have the better melee build and should be able to fight him just fine.
2h: teh fuq if i spam mah danish i has to get dem kills ! iz justicce !!!!1
balance team: Oh you are are 2h ? In that case, consider it done sir. Thank you for reporting this issue.
:lol:
Sounds like everyone of every build!
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First, by changing the time needed to switch weapon modes,
Second, by removing jumpthrowing,
Third by overpowering shields
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Tell me cus ive got no clue :(
Awww poor guy! Welcome to archery....
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Awww poor guy! Welcome to archery....
Acting like archery is more UP than throwing. *facepalm*
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RIP throwers. :cry:
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Acting like archery is more UP than throwing. *facepalm*
wow you missed that completely didn't you....i was saying welcome to archery as in it gets nerfed a shit ton.
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Oh I am quite aware of his opinion as he keeps ragepolling me when I shoot him and he keeps punching me as soon as he is in my team :lol:
Cus i love you. I respect archers.
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wow you missed that completely didn't you....i was saying welcome to archery as in it gets nerfed a shit ton.
Regardless of whether 2h got -1 damage across all weapons every patch then they still would be quite powerful for a while, and they wouldn't have any grounds for saying "welcome to 2h" every time something else gets nerfed.
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Like I've said many times before; nerfing by restricting what you can do is really bad. So is decreasing game speed and accuracy.
This applies to all classes.
It had been much better to decrease the ammo and/or damage of the throwing weapons.
Not only does jump throwing make sense. It takes skill and makes it far more exciting to play as a thrower.
Throwing is boring now compared to before. That is not how you should go about when nerfing.
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Like I've said many times before; nerfing by restricting what you can do is really bad. So is decreasing game speed and accuracy.
This applies to all classes.
It had been much better to decrease the ammo and/or damage of the throwing weapons.
Nope, this would be freaking horrible.
Not only does jump throwing make sense. It takes skill and makes it far more exciting to play as a thrower.
Throwing is boring now compared to before. That is not how you should go about when nerfing.
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Zlisch, maybe not both.
But if you decrease the ammo, you would probably get less throwers and the ones remaining would be the good ones.
After that you can increase the damage instead.
Atleast I was very succesful as a thrower with only 4 throwing lances.
A class should not get nerfed because a few really good players are "op" but maybe that's how it works.
With that said, the majority of crpg players suck, no matter what class they play and that has always been the case.
And that is also what I like about crpg, what is left off it, that there is a huge difference between good and bad players.
It makes it more challening and is also the reason I'm hooked. I would hate a game were everyone are equally good. How fucking boring.
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It was easy, find some non shielder to throw too....but more and more people have shields
It probably looked kind of like this:
2h: olololo blaacne taem !!!
balance team: How can we help ?
2h: nurf dem throwerz plix plox
balance team: why
2h: cuz he throws and then like he hit in melee before I oneshot him omgwtf lol good joke
balance team: But he is supposed to be switching weapon modes with throwing weapons and be able to hit you in melee. You have the better melee build and should be able to fight him just fine.
2h: teh fuq if i spam mah danish i has to get dem kills ! iz justicce !!!!1
balance team: Oh you are are 2h ? In that case, consider it done sir. Thank you for reporting this issue.
:lol:
You should hear Teeth on ts talking about op throwers :lol:
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Or keep the jumpthrow, but make it super mega inaccurate and lower the dmg done while throwing mid air.
Good thing to even it up would be to add 2 slot throwing stuff. Like, i dont know, the throwing spears could be 8 ammo 2 slots. So in the end you can pull out a 0 slot short sword like all the other ranged class do now.
In my opinion the biggest fun factor nerf throwing class got it when they removed axes sticking on the player they it. After playing like 7 gen i was still entertained when i threw an axe in the face of a dude, he kept running at me and killed me with the axe stuck between his eyes.
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Zlisch, maybe not both.
But if you decrease the ammo, you would probably get less throwers and the ones remaining would be the good ones.
After that you can increase the damage instead.
Atleast I was very succesful as a thrower with only 4 throwing lances.
A class should not get nerfed because a few really good players are "op" but maybe that's how it works.
With that said, the majority of crpg players suck, no matter what class they play and that has always been the case.
Riddaren, decreasing the ammo or the damage will royally screw throwers even worse, my throwing lances as is often don't onehit light armored archers I'm riding towards full speed, and we already got so low amounts of ammo that we can easily waste four slots on successful hits (hitting the body, not the legs, horses, arms, or shield) and still not have a decent score or kd.
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Shields op against throwing? IMO it feels as if throwing ignores my shield completely almost everytime i face a thrower :( All the throwing nerfs are still stoopid and something has to be done to buff this beautifully annoying class!
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Shields op against throwing? IMO it feels as if throwing ignores my shield completely almost everytime i face a thrower :( All the throwing nerfs are still stoopid and something has to be done to buff this beautifully annoying class!
last time i saw you playing, it was with a buckler shierld :P
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Riddaren, decreasing the ammo or the damage will royally screw throwers even worse, my throwing lances as is often don't onehit light armored archers I'm riding towards full speed, and we already got so low amounts of ammo that we can easily waste four slots on successful hits (hitting the body, not the legs, horses, arms, or shield) and still not have a decent score or kd.
Well, horse throwing is clearly underpowered and has always been afaik.
It's also a shame that you don't get speed bonus for throwing while riding towards the target.
IMO hitting someone with a throwing lance should 1 hit kill most of the time if hitting body or head (ofc), given it penetrates.
My horse (destrier) sometimes takes only 1/4 damage from throwing lances. That is wrong.
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Well, horse throwing is clearly underpowered and has always been afaik.
It's also a shame that you don't get speed bonus for throwing while riding towards the target.
IMO hitting someone with a throwing lance should 1 hit kill most of the time if hitting body or head (ofc), given it penetrates.
My horse (destrier) sometimes takes only 1/4 damage from throwing lances. That is wrong.
You do get a speed bonus now, it's capped at like 20% though as far as I know, and destriers have always been brokenly overpowered tanks and the gods of cav.
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You do get a speed bonus now, it's capped at like 20% though as far as I know, and destriers have always been brokenly overpowered tanks and the gods of cav.
Oh, didn't know... that's cool but 20% seems way too little.
Good thing my destrier is +3. The only thing I don't have +3 is a helmet. The most overrated item in game.
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Last class that needed a nerf in any way is throwers, still got hit by it.
GGS/DGS got nerfed, all axes and other stuff got buffed to compensate.
2H lobby rules cRPG.
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Last class that needed a nerf in any way is throwers, still got hit by it.
GGS/DGS got nerfed, all axes and other stuff got buffed to compensate.
2H lobby rules cRPG.
So why do you down vote my post? Makes no sense.
I'll be downvoting your posts from now on. You deserve it.
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So why do you down vote my post? Makes no sense.
I'll be downvoting your posts from now on. You deserve it.
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last time i saw you playing, it was with a buckler shierld :P
Haha but my buckler blocks almost all arrows but no throwing. And i was actually talking about when i play with my kite shield / knightly heater shield...
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The only thing I don't have +3 is a helmet. The most overrated item in game.
By far not. +3 helmets are really useful, especially against pikes, average ranged weaponry and 1Hs. It also helps a lot against the players that always attacks your head, which goes for all melee weapons. Overrated, I think not. Underrated, yes.