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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Ujin on March 07, 2013, 03:06:36 pm
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just saying. this has been discussed over and over again during the last couple of months, i'm pretty sure you know what the issues are by now.
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I always thought these complaints were just the tears of an OP class that got it's long deserved balance, making other lances actually viable choices. I also thought that the heavy lance with its slow speed still benefitted enough from speed bonus to do good damage. I have played my cav alt again though, sure 6 ps and an unloomed heavy lance might not be optimal, but glancing on full speed proper hits is a bit ridiculous. I feel like I do more damage to armour swinging my unloomed cut damage LHB on foot with 5 athlethics than stabbing someone at full speed with the pierce heavy lance.
Seriously just whiffing and glancing all over the place, although I am not sure if it is the damage nerf, maybe something about the stabbing mechanics got changed, cause I remember doing better even with a 4 ps unloomed 26p heavy lance when my cav alt was still built for the great lance, which should be about equal.
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Unloomed Heavy Lance is a terribly bad weapon right now. At +3 it's useable, but undue punishment is dealt out to anyone using a normal one.
Maybe it could get 25 pierce at +0 but only 2 more damage at +3?
I'm not a big fan of balancing the weapons by tweaking the heirloom bonuses too much, but maybe it's called for here, like it currently is for archers. They would get twice the +3 damage from both heirloomed arrows and bows, while the analogous damage multiplier is the speed bonus for Heavy Lance.
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Unloomed Heavy Lance is a terribly bad weapon right now. At +3 it's useable, but undue punishment is dealt out to anyone using a normal one.
Maybe it could get 25 pierce at +0 but only 2 more damage at +3?
I'm not a big fan of balancing the weapons by tweaking the heirloom bonuses too much, but maybe it's called for here, like it currently is for archers. They would get twice the +3 damage from both heirloomed arrows and bows, while the analogous damage multiplier is the speed bonus for Heavy Lance.
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I think the heavy lance damage currently falls right under the soak damage levels. I think a buff by something as small as 1 or 2 damage would make a big difference.
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My suggestion wouldn't bring it back to its former glory if that's what you mean, but it should make the unloomed Heavy Lance a choice you don't get laughed at for. And those who already have it at +3 would still get one more damage compared to the current situation.
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I constantly glance with 20 str and 6 PS using anything but a MW Heavy Lance (0, +1 or +2 Heavy Lance in strat battles). It's not as bad on a courser, but try riding an armored horse or a destrier with a heavy lance and it's glance city.
Trading my MW Heavy Lance and +1 Wisby Gauntlets for a MW Lance was the best trade I ever made. Heavy Lance blows dicks like it's going out of style.
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That the piece of turd is still double the price of the (superior) lance is an utter shambles