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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Torost on March 05, 2013, 07:32:44 am

Title: Spathion - 0slot
Post by: Torost on March 05, 2013, 07:32:44 am
The new 0slotsword added is really nice. finaly a nice meleewep for archers.
Hybrid throwers can now bring huscarlshield + spathion + 2 slots for throwingwep.
And ofc 2slot crossbowers... that this weapon prob is intended for.
Maulers bringing 3slot great maul, and backup 1slotshield + Spathion.

But I am thinking this might be an error.

is it supposed to be 0slot? would suck to loom one only to be changed next week.....

It is one of the toptier swords statswise

Spathion
weapon length: 102
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 13
speed rating: 97
weapon length: 102
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 31 cut
slots: 0

gold:10 290

Title: Re: Spathion - 0slot
Post by: Matey on March 05, 2013, 07:44:00 am
obviously i dont know for sure here... but my guess is that it is intentionally 0 slot and that is why it costs so damn much.
Title: Re: Spathion - 0slot
Post by: Falka on March 05, 2013, 09:23:09 am
Spathion - 102 cm, 0 slots
Bastard sword - 101 cm, 2 slots

Hm, it makes sense! :P But seriously, I think it's a mistake, hard to believe that it was intended.
Title: Re: Spathion - 0slot
Post by: Felix_Iron on March 05, 2013, 02:48:47 pm
more of new (and some old) bizantium gear a bit better than their counterparts. so nerf bizantium  :lol: Ok Im just kidding. But Im realy dont understand why Byzantium Spathion must be more longest  then other counterparts and 0 slots...

Title: Re: Spathion - 0slot
Post by: Phew on March 05, 2013, 03:05:01 pm
Devs want to turn archers into swashbucklers, fine. Spathion will serve that purpose. The Paramerion having godly stats is a bigger issue.
Title: Re: Spathion - 0slot
Post by: Rumblood on March 05, 2013, 06:58:02 pm
obviously i dont know for sure here... but my guess is that it is intentionally 0 slot and that is why it costs so damn much.

Exactly, archers already barely break even. A 10k melee weapon added in will slowly break their bank.
Title: Re: Spathion - 0slot
Post by: Ptolemy on March 10, 2013, 09:36:51 pm
I'm guessing that the Spathion being 0 slot is to balance it against the Paramerion, given that the Paramerion is longer, faster, easier to use, does 1 more swing damage, 1 less stab damage, and costs nearly 4k less.

Which is retarded - no archer will ever use a Spathion, and a 1h/1h+shield will always take the Paramerion over the Spathion since it's just better. Slots don't come into the equasion. Either Paramerion needs a nerf or Spathion needs a buff.

The only possible non-archer build that would use this would be a hoplite - 2slot spear, huscarl shield and this and they could just as easily take a Scottish Sword, since that's 0 slots too, is even faster and cheaper than the Paramerion - while not doing quite so much damage.