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Title: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Kirman on March 02, 2013, 09:12:09 pm
First of all, i dont have any problems with thoose clans and i like them all. But the problem is theres always a clan who's stacking EU1 and EU2. For example, on EU1 theres always Byzantium and on EU2 HRE/Grey . Somehow im always on the enemy team so i need to QQ. Please remove the banner balance, its impossible to win against an organised team with random players.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Nasha on March 02, 2013, 09:48:29 pm
I understand what your saying about banner stacking... but what would be the point in factions with their banners if you couldn't play with your own faction, all on the same team? :(
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 02, 2013, 09:49:34 pm
First of all, i dont have any problems with thoose clans and i like them all. But the problem is theres always a clan who's stacking EU1 and EU2. For example, on EU1 theres always Byzantium and on EU2 HRE/Grey . Somehow im always on the enemy team so i need to QQ. Please remove the banner balance, its impossible to win against an organised team with random players.
be sure, wheter you have a huge team or not. we still have to fight for our multi, its often not so easy as it looks.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 02, 2013, 10:42:57 pm
So you hate team play?
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: SoA_Sir_ODHarry on March 02, 2013, 10:46:49 pm
arent their several or atleast one Clan for pubers only?
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on March 02, 2013, 10:53:11 pm
I understand what your saying about banner stacking... but what would be the point in factions with their banners if you couldn't play with your own faction, all on the same team? :(

Strat
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Nazurdin on March 02, 2013, 10:55:10 pm
organised team

I lold.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on March 02, 2013, 11:08:22 pm
be sure, wheter you have a huge team or not. we still have to fight for our multi, its often not so easy as it looks.

I think his point is that it's much harder for him.

I just play cRPG to fight. Winning doesn't really affect me.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Osiris on March 02, 2013, 11:19:14 pm
arnt deserters like the third biggest clan on eu1 these days?
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Nasha on March 02, 2013, 11:21:41 pm
Strat

Fair enough, but for those who don't play Strat?
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: NuberT on March 02, 2013, 11:22:00 pm
arnt deserters like the third biggest clan on eu1 these days?
That was my first thought as well :)
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 02, 2013, 11:27:20 pm
arnt deserters like the third biggest clan on eu1 these days?
Yeah, but when the only clans who got insane amounts of members on EU_1 are byz and mercs and everyone sorta falls behind 'em it don't mater much.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Molly on March 02, 2013, 11:28:41 pm
arent their several or atleast one Clan for pubers only?


Kulin's Bogumili...
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on March 02, 2013, 11:38:38 pm
I agree with this point. Remove bannerstacking and probably remove valor too. You guys have your counter arguements but we are not talking about 20-30 well-populated clans here. There are these 4-5 motherlode clans which are always there. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy a good defense or a blitzkrieg flag capture run when I am with the HRE for example but this is not fair. It is killing the fun (obviously not for motherlode guilders but yeah, you get it).

I mean what should people do? Should they all seek to join the ranks of the main guilds? If your answer is yes, I will ask, why the hell should they?

And I see how some of you people would like to enjoy some teamplay. Well, why not do it on strat? Why not bring back the clan league? Obviously, banner stacking is killing the fun for lots of people who would like to be independent rather than striving to become a part of the several juggernauts.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Kafein on March 03, 2013, 12:14:26 am
Well, banner stacking would be better if our autobalancer was able to deal with it. But then again, better balance means worse average xp and disgruntled players.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on March 03, 2013, 12:31:49 am
Hey Mlekce, why don't you try writing about what you think instead being a soreass that has a constant boner for the - (minus) button?

I made a point. I offended nobody and you want to downvote me eh? Well, I don't mind. Lynch the fuck out of me everyone out there who disagrees, but I would like to see some proper argument being placed if you may.
Title: Re:surrect EU_4!!!
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 03, 2013, 12:43:46 am
You know, you could play EU_4, no banner balance there... wait, nevermind...
BRING BACK EU_4
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Latvian on March 03, 2013, 12:58:38 am
arnt deserters like the third biggest clan on eu1 these days?
we might be relativly big clan but how often you see mroe than 5 deserters online? We cant compete with clans like mercs or byzantium who ussualy have 10-15 players
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Korgoth on March 03, 2013, 01:08:38 am
Only because there is a lot of one clan in one team doesnt mean automatic win.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: KingBread on March 03, 2013, 06:47:55 am
lol we i remember few times we stacked banner with HRE so actually almost whole team was one clan in siege and we failed. (few rounds :Pbut still it is not auto win we still need to play/kill) So please no nerfs to team play ! Nerf ranged instead
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: bagge on March 03, 2013, 07:07:13 am
First of all, i dont have any problems with thoose clans and i like them all. But the problem is theres always a clan who's stacking EU1 and EU2. For example, on EU1 theres always Byzantium and on EU2 HRE/Grey . Somehow im always on the enemy team so i need to QQ. Please remove the banner balance, its impossible to win against an organised team with random players.

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Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Ujin on March 03, 2013, 08:19:42 am
Deserters, i used to have high hopes and expectations when you started... Decent members, active in numbers on the server, always trying to teamwork... And instead of continuing in that direction , you've downgraded to not even showing up for you league battles and complaining about banner balance ?

Come on guys , it's not too late to come back to your senses.  :?


I always enjoy competition on pub servers , the more of it the better. That's all i can say. Bannerbalance removal would kill the fun for me though.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 03, 2013, 08:21:02 am
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Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Molly on March 03, 2013, 08:39:36 am
Deserters, i used to have high hopes and expectations when you started... Decent members, active in numbers on the server, always trying to teamwork... And instead of continuing in that direction , you've downgraded to not even showing up for you league battles and complaining about banner balance ?

Come on guys , it's not too late to come back to your senses.  :?


I always enjoy competition on pub servers , the more of it the better. That's all i can say. Bannerbalance removal would kill the fun for me though.
You should know that there is no way a leader of a clan can control what single members may or may not post in the forum.
Therefore your post seems a bit unfair imho.  :?
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Kuujis on March 03, 2013, 09:14:54 am
I would also like to point out, that there have been NUMEROUS cases, when players start to qq about being on the SAME team as HRE on EU2, because... well... For example I suck and bring part of the team down with me :rolleyes:

Overall I think balancing could be a bit more random at times. E.g. when score wise the discrepancy is just too big it could disregard banners, but if not - then banner balancing must be kept and the the clans must be allowed to play together.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Malaclypse on March 03, 2013, 09:26:46 am
I understand what your saying about banner stacking... but what would be the point in factions with their banners if you couldn't play with your own faction, all on the same team? :(

As someone else said, Strategus. As another point: to have a rad banner- I dunno, I like playing on the same side as the guys in my faction, but I'm not against them being on the other side for more than the first round. I'm for banner/clan taking some part in how balance is decided, but not if it's going to be detrimental to overall class balance for either side (one side winds up with majority of cav + majority of ranged, or perhaps worse, with the majority of cav and the majority of hoplites/spearmen/melee anti-cav et cetera).
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Silicium on March 03, 2013, 09:31:59 am
Deserters, i used to have high hopes and expectations when you started... Decent members, active in numbers on the server, always trying to teamwork... And instead of continuing in that direction , you've downgraded to not even showing up for you league battles and complaining about banner balance ?

Come on guys , it's not too late to come back to your senses.  :?


I always enjoy competition on pub servers , the more of it the better. That's all i can say. Bannerbalance removal would kill the fun for me though.
Congrats on judging the rest of the clan for someone posting his own idea of things.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Ujin on March 03, 2013, 10:27:56 am
Congrats on judging the rest of the clan for someone posting his own idea of things.
They didn't show up for their league battle and now one of their members complains about the banner balance, which if he was satisfied with his clan's activity would've been quite the opposite. That is enough information for me to judge whether they are doing fine or not. And don't get me wrong, i'd rather see them do fine, cause when they were active and teamplaying (led by Idzo, right?) on Eu1 Deserters looked really nice to me.
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: BASNAK on March 03, 2013, 11:31:32 am
Bring back Banner-leeching. Would revive the mod!
Title: Re: QQ EU1&EU2
Post by: Umbra on March 03, 2013, 11:38:43 am
This kind of threads are getting so old...

I bet when your team preforms badly or scatters you cry: Waaaaaa no teamplay waaaaaa.