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Title: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Tibe on February 24, 2013, 11:32:14 pm
Average fight with a 1h for me vs kuyak 2h hero:

Direct freaking hit in full speed with a high tier MW 1h weapon straight in to the kuyakguys chest and the game laughs at me:
"Tought you made some damage there didnt you?....too bad shithead, it glanced BWAHAHAHA". Leaving me standing there wondering wtf. Sometimes same thing repeats itself 3 hits in a row.

And than the kuyakhero does the stabmove and comes so close to me with the sword that its model is practically through me and without any noticable speed or anything goes for a stab and than the Warbandgremlin comes again: "Thought it would glance didnt you? Sucks to be you, he did full damage BWAHAHAHA".

Wat?
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Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Gurnisson on February 24, 2013, 11:36:21 pm
Shit footwork, gg
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Kelugarn on February 25, 2013, 12:05:03 am
I find it to be more frustrating when they can turn a fully extended thrust into me for full damage. It's like the half second where it hangs out in the air has turned their sword into some kind of anti-matter weapon.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: zagibu on February 25, 2013, 12:16:50 am
Well, real 2h heroes clutch their sword so hard the vibration frequency from their muscles transfers over to the blade, which vaporates any molecules on contact. That's the explanation behind 2h stabs.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Kato on February 25, 2013, 12:55:49 am
Long 1h without shield is superior to 2h in duels, really love that you need always choose right attack for every situation, not only spamming randomly like most 2h + 1h left swing easily make up for 2h stab. What makes difference is that 2h works very good with armor-strong crutch, 1h not so much + 2hander usualy have better position for kicking.

How can skilled players still qq about 2h stab is beyond me :rolleyes:, 2h stab is super easy to block and great opportunity to counter attack thanks to stun.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Tibe on February 25, 2013, 06:21:54 am
Didnt acctually complain about the 2h stab, well not delibertly. I was just wierded out by the logic of these 2 occasions that sometimes repeat itself in duel atleast for me all way to often. The lolstab is quite predictable yes, I just dont get the mechanic behind it when its litterally pulled pointblank and works. Sometimes it doesnt...it feels random. How the hell does it do full damage and my weapon glances in full direct hit with a MW weapon, speed and 8PS into a kuyak(which aint tincan).

Now I know what you saying, you just probably couldnt keep up, shit foot work, you didnt hit some sweetspot or you just lightly touched him with the edge. Mostly yes, but often no. Lets just say I can tell the diffence of when I should do some tasty fleshcutting or glance.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Nightingale on February 25, 2013, 07:12:50 am
Well duh, he is a two handed swordsmen, therefore obviously a superior duelist.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Macropus on February 25, 2013, 08:33:05 am
Tiberius, just make 24-18 build and don't give a shit about 2handers in duels.  8-)
It's easier to block with 1h, it's easier to make enemy miss hits with 1h, that kinda compensates it's drawbacks in duel.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Prpavi on February 25, 2013, 11:50:20 am
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Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Butan on February 25, 2013, 02:13:41 pm
Quote from: TiberiusX on February 25, 2013, 06:21:54 am
Lets just say I can tell the diffence of when I should do some tasty fleshcutting or glance.


The game is never wrong  :P
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Tindel on February 25, 2013, 04:03:53 pm
Quote from: TiberiusX on February 24, 2013, 11:32:14 pm
Average fight with a 1h for me vs kuyak 2h hero:

Direct freaking hit in full speed with a high tier MW 1h weapon straight in to the kuyakguys chest and the game laughs at me:
"Tought you made some damage there didnt you?....too bad shithead, it glanced BWAHAHAHA". Leaving me standing there wondering wtf. Sometimes same thing repeats itself 3 hits in a row.

And than the kuyakhero does the stabmove and comes so close to me with the sword that its model is practically through me and without any noticable speed or anything goes for a stab and than the Warbandgremlin comes again: "Thought it would glance didnt you? Sucks to be you, he did full damage BWAHAHAHA".

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You went pretty quickly from being a greatsword wielding 2h guy to a 1h+shield guy complaining that 2h is OP.

I think its funny
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: XyNox on February 25, 2013, 04:19:16 pm
Quote from: Tindel on February 25, 2013, 04:03:53 pm
You went pretty quickly from being a greatsword wielding 2h guy to a 1h+shield guy complaining that 2h is OP.

I think its funny

I think more 2h heroes should switch classes for some gens to eventually understand that they should be GRATEFUL for the ezmodery they are granted, instead of whining that they still cant shoot lazers out of their greatswords to take down enemy horse ranged.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on February 25, 2013, 04:39:38 pm
Quote from: Kato on February 25, 2013, 12:55:49 am
How can skilled players still qq about 2h stab is beyond me :rolleyes:, 2h stab is super easy to block and great opportunity to counter attack thanks to stun.

Mainly because I don't think you should be able to start a stab while I'm facehugging you, and through mouse-wiggling, do full damage point-blank and hit faster then my swing, it makes no sense. That and the fact that weapon stun on the stab is rare. At least in my personal experience.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 25, 2013, 04:43:55 pm
How much power strike do you have with your 1h?  I'm assuming you're using a cutting weapon?

Cut weapons are pretty bad with 6 or less power strike, I usually don't do "reliable" strikes against heavier armor with a cutting sword until I have 7 power strike.  Also not having terrible footwork is crucial.

Maybe you should use a blunt or pierce weapon if you're glancing on kuyaks.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Tibe on February 25, 2013, 05:15:06 pm
Quote from: Tindel on February 25, 2013, 04:03:53 pm
You went pretty quickly from being a greatsword wielding 2h guy to a 1h+shield guy complaining that 2h is OP.

I think its funny

Tbh I made this thread purely for entertainment purpuses. Pretty oblivious from my tone that I didnt make it out of hopes that something will change. And  I complained about 2hs being OP even back when I was carring one. It was acctually the main reason why I stopped playing it in the first place. Nothing entertaining in playing the game in supereasymode. It really bore me to tears.

I am pretty happy with my current build and class. Its flexible and competitive. Its just that occasional flaws do jump out from time to time in duel. But overall all iz good.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Butan on February 25, 2013, 05:22:06 pm
Quote from: XyNox on February 25, 2013, 04:19:16 pm
I think more 2h heroes should switch classes for some gens to eventually understand that they should be GRATEFUL for the ezmodery they are granted, instead of whining that they still cant shoot lazers out of their greatswords to take down enemy horse ranged.


These kind of posts makes me want to retire/grind an alt on a different class and kill enemies and say : see, I can kill enemies while not being 2H too !

But then I dont feel like I will take the time to and just continue Two-Handed swording through people 8-)
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Tibe on February 25, 2013, 05:28:22 pm
And we love you for it Butan. Dont you ever change. :D
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Joseph Porta on February 25, 2013, 09:47:01 pm
The only stab that hits me is the one where they miss stab you on purpose but drag it so that the blade bends and hits me in my back.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Laufknoten on February 25, 2013, 10:21:36 pm
You could fight in clothes, that way you can't blame anyone for your death because it's your fault when you get onehitted by some 2h hiltslash or practically by anything. And it doubles the joy when you kill some armor crutching str noob. :D
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Rainbow on February 25, 2013, 11:01:06 pm
I think we all know that the 2h stab needs a major overhaul.  Nothing new here.
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Tindel on February 25, 2013, 11:20:41 pm
Or do it my way, use a great axe
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: karasu on February 25, 2013, 11:26:10 pm
Seems to me everyone is in dire need of some quality time in Real Life, too much anger.

Shiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.




Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Rebelyell on February 26, 2013, 01:45:15 am
Quote from: TiberiusX on February 24, 2013, 11:32:14 pm
Average fight with a 1h for me vs kuyak 2h hero:

Direct freaking hit in full speed with a high tier MW 1h weapon straight in to the kuyakguys chest and the game laughs at me:
"Tought you made some damage there didnt you?....too bad shithead, it glanced BWAHAHAHA". Leaving me standing there wondering wtf. Sometimes same thing repeats itself 3 hits in a row.

And than the kuyakhero does the stabmove and comes so close to me with the sword that its model is practically through me and without any noticable speed or anything goes for a stab and than the Warbandgremlin comes again: "Thought it would glance didnt you? Sucks to be you, he did full damage BWAHAHAHA".

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2hfob
Title: Re: Another ragemoment...
Post by: Tibe on February 26, 2013, 05:02:23 am
Quote from: Rebelyell on February 26, 2013, 01:45:15 am
2hfob
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