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cRPG => cRPG Technical problems => Topic started by: Black Wind on April 30, 2011, 03:32:32 am

Title: Bow bug??
Post by: Black Wind on April 30, 2011, 03:32:32 am
Hey all...

My archer has 99 WPF in bows, and 9 Powerdraw.

I can't use any bow at all.. I have every bow except the nomad bow, and could use it pre-patch... Would this be a bug?
Also keeps saying "Proficiency with bows is too low." even when i own a hunting bow..
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on April 30, 2011, 04:09:28 am
Hey all...

My archer has 99 WPF in bows, and 9 Powerdraw.

I can't use any bow at all.. I have every bow except the nomad bow, and could use it pre-patch... Would this be a bug?
Also keeps saying "Proficiency with bows is too low." even when i own a hunting bow..

i've got 155 in archery and i havent got any problems about using bows...U might need more Wpf tho, cuz thats what it tells u!?
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Black Wind on April 30, 2011, 04:19:16 am
i've got 155 in archery and i havent got any problems about using bows...U might need more Wpf tho, cuz thats what it tells u!?

I hypothesise that it is my gear that isn't loading, seeing that I can pick up bows, just can't start with them.
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: cmp on April 30, 2011, 12:12:42 pm
Not a bug. Your wpf is too low, reducing your effective power draw.
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Tears of Destiny on April 30, 2011, 05:14:49 pm
Not a bug. Your wpf is too low, reducing your effective power draw.

Would you consider posting these requirements in the shop? And why does a hunting bow require more then 99 wpf?
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on April 30, 2011, 05:50:08 pm
Would you consider posting these requirements in the shop? And why does a hunting bow require more then 99 wpf?

Lol, its kinda ridiculous or lame, its one of the worst bows and u need more than 99 wpf? thats just BS
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: cmp on April 30, 2011, 07:05:46 pm
You misunderstand. Those are not item requirements, it just means you're a PD stacker or have way too much armor.
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Zion on April 30, 2011, 07:41:10 pm
I never heard of that. WPF was never a requirement for using bow.. Only PD, isn't it ?!?

So, WPF would be a new requirement for bow with the new patch ? I doubt, otherwise it would be at least mention somewhere, or then they really messed up and forgot it.

Otherwise... Man you r unlucky :D
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Keshian on May 01, 2011, 01:54:05 am
How much wpf do you need to not have your powerdraw reduced, say for example 7 powerdraw with 138 wpf would that reduce my effective powerdraw or should I do 6 powerdraw with 148 wpf and have the same effective powerdraw under this new system??
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Keshian on May 01, 2011, 03:07:26 am
Not really a powerdraw stacker, but this could remove any reason to go another set of 3 strengtha dn instead opt for 3 more agility, would appreciate some explanation of how stringent this wpf requirement is in diluting the benfits of powerdraw?
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Keshian on May 01, 2011, 09:37:52 am
Bump, how does this work??
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Malaclypse on May 01, 2011, 09:39:04 am
Interested to know, would be helpful if people weren't left to figure this out on their own through trial and error.
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: 3ABP on May 01, 2011, 12:45:33 pm
del
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Zion on May 01, 2011, 01:48:23 pm
I'd really would like to clear this out, but then i would need to create a new char to check by myself, but i'm a bit lazy as others maybe too :p
I'm also curious, did anyone else than Black Wind got this problem ? Or is this only him ?
I'm currently using a fine war bow with 6PD and 151 wpf and it is just fine so far... Before that, a strong bow with 6PD and about 140 wpf was fine too.

Otherwise, here is a useful information for every archers who don't know this yet, here are some weapons which can be used 2H and only take 1 slot :
- Spiked Mace (2H based)
- Fighting Axe (1H based)
- Langes Messer (1H based) still impatient to try it as this weapon is still staying hidden/invisible after purchase..

If you guys know any other ones just let everyone know :D Or maybe let's create a topic about it.
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Keshian on May 01, 2011, 06:44:52 pm
There are actually a bunch of low-tier 1hers that take 0 slots so you can still have a warbow/longbow, 2 sets of ammo, and a melee weapon.  Some are pretty fast, but I think they are all under 50 length.

The main reason I want to know this is not for being able to use a bow, but for losing the benefit of an entire 1-2 points in powerdraw because my wpf wasn't high enough, thats 6 points in strength wasted.  Would appreciate a developer giving just some general numbers, are dedicated archers with 120+ wpf affected by this if they have 7 or 8 powerdraw??
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: 3ABP on May 02, 2011, 02:15:01 am
Not a bug. Your wpf is too low, reducing your effective power draw.
Explain pls.
Earlier PD affecting WPF (reducing them).
Now WPF (???) affecting PD? Reducing them???
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: AlbaTiger on May 02, 2011, 02:22:38 am
The same thing is happening with throwers, if they don't have enough wpf in throwing to match their PowerThrow stat they get a similar warning message.

I still don't think anyone has worked out exactly how this change works though, some have said it is 14 wpf per point of skill but nowhere has anyone said what happens if you don't have enough wpf, does it just count it up to how many you do have enough wpf for or something else.
 :?
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Keshian on May 02, 2011, 09:35:55 pm
Bump, would appreciate someone who knows for sure clarifying this please.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 02, 2011, 09:38:09 pm
Now I am afraid to retire and make my PD8 or 10 guy again...  blegh...
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: 3ABP on May 04, 2011, 12:22:36 pm
4th time looking for a way to delete my post ^)
Title: Re: Bow bug??
Post by: Aldaron on August 19, 2011, 08:54:36 am
There's still the bow bug.

I have STR 12 AGI 12, Archery proficiency 57, power draw 2.

The bow called "Bow" tells me my proficiency is not high enough. It has difficulty 2.

This sucks big time. Wasting my few points of exp should not be trial-and-error.