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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: mulas on April 30, 2011, 02:44:15 am
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I don't like where this is going. A lot of taking and not a lot of giving. All prices on weapons raised, and stats chopped across the board like a cleaver.
Don't fix what ain't broke, or you'll make it worse.
Although I'm only gen 2, I'm ok with people who played for a much longer time to have advantages over me, considering the time invested. As long as it's not so overpowered, that's impossible to beat.
This mod is becoming a lot less RPG and more of plain Native. What's make people keep playing rpg games? It's progression and growth, and you're shrinking it to nothing.
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While going back to gen 1 again (more or less) i think its a step in the right direction. This way you will get progression rather than almost instant gratification. Personally ill still be lvling and retiring, its not like its that much of a difference for us who are the lower end of generatioons.
Also, how did heirlooms get nerfed?
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i "quit" due to getting my xp cut in half. But i may consider trying the patch if we get an heirloom n stat reset, plus the ability to choose items in-game(unless thats just a bug).
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Why you nerf retirement bonus? Why you dont want high lvl dudes? YOu are killing the endgame of this mod.
Better heirlooms and more level dudes fighting arround is the way. This patch fucked up possibilites, dont destroy retirement too.
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Why you nerf retirement bonus? Why you dont want high lvl dudes? YOu are killing the endgame of this mod.
Better heirlooms and more level dudes fighting arround is the way. This patch fucked up possibilites, dont destroy retirement too.
retirements already dead
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Fucking baddies crying because you don't have huge advantage over everyone. Cry more scrubs.
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Fucking baddies crying because you don't have huge advantage over everyone. Cry more scrubs.
so my xp bonus gave me +5 damage ? where the fuck did it say that?
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retirements already dead
Yeh I know, but its completly idiot to nerf retirement bonus... Now that most of specs will be useless, if they boost retirment bonus people will respec and get new weapons will give live to crpg.
ALl this changes are going to kill this mod
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This is all a bunch of bullshit. There was no reason for this update. This is one of the most point less things i have ever seen dev's do. They did more bad then good. They fucked us all over. This is pure bull. I lost 7k due to some dumb people who thought lets go raise the prices on every weapon. Oh hey lets also cut there gold in half. And lets take there hard earned word away. Hmm sound good. Alright guys lets screw them over!
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the heirloom nerf was needed, weapons became too powerfull so this is a good thing.
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Your right dev's have destroyed this mod like you said, they have nearly doubled the prices on all weapons and nerfed all stats E.G took 10 speed off the heavy lance when every weapon was already faster then it. plus they have now made it look like there is no point in playing to those people who have played since the beginning. so I would like to say well done dev's you have now killed this mod now, now please go die in a corner and leave us alone with our rage thanks.
this At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square. why we still do we still play? simple at the start this was a good mod so we got addicted to playing due to its epic'ness, but now that its dead we cant shift the addiction we might as-well all be on cannabis. there's no difference now....
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please have a moments silence in memory of the pre-patch cRPG my it live in our minds forever....R.I.P pre-patch :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Your right dev's have destroyed this mod like you said, they have nearly doubled the prices on all weapons and nerfed all stats E.G took 10 speed off the heavy lance when every weapon was already faster then it. plus they have now made it look like there is no point in playing to those people who have played since the beginning. so I would like to say well done dev's you have now killed this mod now, now please go die in a corner and leave us alone with our rage thanks.
this At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square. why we still do we still play? simple at the start this was a good mod so we got addicted to playing due to its epic'ness, but now that its dead we cant shift the addiction we might as-well all be on cannabis. there's no difference now....
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please have a moments silence in memory of the pre-patch cRPG my it live in our minds forever....R.I.P pre-patch :cry: :cry: :cry:
for those who wished it: statistics about the player numbers. I'm sorry to burst your armageddon bubble:
http://c-rpg.net/statistics.html
Word on the street is, you are full of it.
chadz has already shown that the numbers are higher then ever. Think of how many servers we had, and now how many are live today.
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Fail link
Also, theres always huge numbers right after patch.Come back once the fuss has died down and then we'll see.
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well, all i can say is i've been playing today, retired with the new patch and i've been having a blast...
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Word on the street is, you are full of it.
Never believe rumors their never right also if you say im liar then please explain why more then half of the people playing are complaining about the patch??
Also Shik and Urist thanks for UNBALANCING the game. It was better off pre-patch atleast there was always a counter to something now there's no counters to anything
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Never believe rumors their never right also if you say im liar then please explain why more then half of the people playing are complaining about the patch??
Also Fasade thanks for UNBALANCING the game. It was better off pre-patch atleast there was always a counter to something now there's no counters to anything
We have 4K active members in any given week playing, how many are complaining? We had over 400 forum users log in today, yet we have about 5 dozen complaining. This is hardly half.
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We have 4K active members in any given week playing, how many are complaining? We had over 400 forum users log in today, yet we have about 5 dozen complaining. This is hardly half.
im talking IG not on here most people don't bother comming on here posting about it because they don't want to look like whiners since most people on here get trolled for doing so
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im talking IG not on here most people don't bother comming on here posting about it because they don't want to look like whiners since most people on here get trolled for doing so
IG for the servers I was on people were mainly fine with the majority of the patch, the only common complaint was the inventory having to be done on the website instead of in game, and that is easily fixable and has nothing to do with game balance and can be changed.
The patch is not even out for 24 hours, give it time.
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I'm going to give it time but all im saying is that this patch has done no good only harm. I will admit that some of the thing that have been nerfed was good E.G the barmace and the likes however more things have been nerfed that was fine E.G the warspear and the sword of war also the prices are silly for me the only way to fix this is go back to before then simply nerf the items that need it and leave every thing else alone rather then just nerfing everything then putting it back. it just makes it allot harder and more complicated.
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Word on the street is, you are full of it.
chadz has already shown that the numbers are higher then ever. Think of how many servers we had, and now how many are live today.
I dont understand how he is full of it. I guess your one of the lucky ones that runs around with 600k gold and doesnt give a shit about how much the weapon prices have been jacked up, and how much other people are suffering. There was no reason for this patch at all that i can see. Every one was happy,but now and again you get a Trol that pisses the people off in the server. But in my point of view has fucked this mod up. im not saying this mod is screwed, im saying they need to fix all the weapon prices and what not!
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I dont understand how he is full of it. I guess your one of the lucky ones that runs around with 600k gold and doesnt give a shit about how much the weapon prices have been jacked up, and how much other people are suffering. There was no reason for this patch at all that i can see. Every one was happy,but now and again you get a Trol that pisses the people off in the server. But in my point of view has fucked this mod up. im not saying this mod is screwed, im saying they need to fix all the weapon prices and what not!
I agree that the patch has causes several undesirable issue to arise, but I fail to accept his claim that "The At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square." as activity is still high.
Broken and dead are two separate things. Are you honestly agreeing with him that the mod, as of now, is dead? Not Dying, not Broken, Not Unbalanced, But Dead?
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IG for the servers I was on people were mainly fine with the majority of the patch, the only common complaint was the inventory having to be done on the website instead of in game, and that is easily fixable and has nothing to do with game balance and can be changed.
The patch is not even out for 24 hours, give it time.
And the patch has already been out for more then 24 hours im saying that it doesnt have to be given time, its already screwed thousands of people. This mod is fucking awesome but, This patch has made it awesomeless
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I'm defiantly not saying this At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square.. Im saying just un patch it maybe leave the new game modes in and fix every thing else. Every thing was fine untill this patch, when it came out everyone went APESHIT!
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I'm defiantly not saying this At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square.. Im saying just un patch it maybe leave the new game modes in and fix every thing else. Every thing was fine untill this patch, when it game out everyone went APESHIT!
Then I rest my case that he is full of it when claiming that the At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square..
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I'm defiantly not saying this At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square.. Im saying just un patch it maybe leave the new game modes in and fix every thing else. Every thing was fine untill this patch, when it came out everyone went APESHIT!
Everyone goes APESHIT after every patch, and always have done for as far back as I can remember.
(except possibly the one that removed server restarts)
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haha i wasnt agreeing about that part, i was agreeing with the part that the dev's kind of fucked us.
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haha i wasnt agreeing about that part, i was agreeing with the part that the dev's kind of fucked us.
Glad to hear. :)
Everyone goes APESHIT after every patch, and always have done for as far back as I can remember.
This, look back at when chadz stole two thirds of all Heirlooms, amusing how it looks vastly similar to what we are reading now.
As I said, give it the two week trial by fire mark, just like every mmo.
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haha i wasnt agreeing about that part, i was agreeing with the part that the dev's kind of fucked us.
How did they fuck you?
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How did they fuck you?
Are we going to get technical> im saying that because of the way the patch turned out. Alot of people have had there shit deleted, as in there heirloomed stuff removed, Peoples Gold as been drained. And me, i have lost some gold, and my weapons. I'm not saying they totally fucked us.
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How did they fuck you?
Removed the ablility to rambo, slightly nerfed most weapons equally by a few points here and there, made the system to old players be confusing which will last all of a few days or weeks, then you will be back to normal (oh wait I am used to that as that is how I felt when first starting, eveyrthing was confusing), broke cav and then made it back to normal, made Agility better like it was prepatch and yet the community still bitches that it needs a buff because they are too busy bitching to actually PLAYTEST and find out that AGIL HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY BUFFED, and other such things that just "fucked" the players over. Buffed archers by making them shoot better and removed the ability for them to dominate in melee yet melee players forget this on the forums and are killing us ind roves compared to before, yah know, the usual.
basically you painted our room red, and it used to be green, new peeps will never know, but us oldies just KNOW that you ruined it with an angry color!
/end_sarcasm
Though I do agree that you seriously did "fuck over" the people who literally lost heirlooms with no compensation, but I trust that is being fixed... And not giving any headsup on restats of item requirements did screw up a lot of builds...
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Glad to hear. :)
This, look back at when chadz stole two thirds of all Heirlooms, amusing how it looks vastly similar to what we are reading now.
As I said, give it the two week trial by fire mark, just like every mmo.
I can understand that, Letting it settle in, But if we are going to do that, i mean lets atleast put the weapon costs back/ stats, because people are loosing money left right and center
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Removed the ablility to rambo, slightly nerfed most weapons equally by a few points here and there, made the system to old players be confusing which will last all of a few days or weeks, then you will be back to normal (oh wait I am used to that as that is how I felt when first starting, eveyrthing was confusing), broke cav and then made it back to normal, made Agility better like it was prepatch and yet the community still bitches that it needs a buff because they are too busy bitching to actually PLAYTEST and find out that AGIL HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY BUFFED, and other such things that just "fucked" the players over. Buffed archers by making them shoot better and removed the ability for them to dominate in melee yet melee players forget this on the forums and are killing us ind roves compared to before, yah know, the usual.
basically you painted our room red, and it used to be green, new peeps will never know, but us oldies just KNOW that you ruined it with an angry color!
/end_sarcasm
Though I do agree that you seriously did "fuck over" the people who literally lost heirlooms with no compensation, but I trust that is being fixed... And not giving any headsup on restats of item requirements did screw up a lot of builds...
That
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Are we going to get technical> im saying that because of the way the patch turned out. Alot of people have had there shit deleted, as in there heirloomed stuff removed, Peoples Gold as been drained. And me, i have lost some hold, and my weapons. I'm not saying they totally fucked us.
Don't forget, you can always play some more and get that stuff back.
cRPG is still being developed. Stuff is being tested and changed and experimented with. Be thankful that you weren't playing back when patches required a full character reset.
Though I do agree that you seriously did "fuck over" the people who literally lost heirlooms with no compensation, but I trust that is being fixed... And not giving any headsup on restats of item requirements did screw up a lot of builds...
Its always the same though.
An easy way to avoid being "fucked over" like this is:
1) Use a balanced build
2) Don't use weapons that are obviously too good to be true
3) Don't use gear that everyone else uses, choose something rare
Every patch the items are re-(un)balanced. Surely people expect stat changes by now? And as for no heads-up, I'd prefer it if the item stats were completely hidden anyway.
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Its always the same though.
An easy way to avoid being "fucked over" like this is:
1) Use a balanced build
2) Don't use weapons that are obviously too good to be true
3) Don't use gear that everyone else uses, choose something rare
Every patch the items are re-(un)balanced. Surely people expect stat changes by now? And as for no heads-up, I'd prefer it if the item stats were completely hidden anyway.
I admit that I was extraordinarily lucky and my main received buffs in every department, and my weapon that people told me never to use (warbow, everyone said strongbow was the better choice) now hits like a friggin truck.
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Alright. As you said Bane, you said i should play more to get the stuff back. I cant because when i play i loose shit loads of money. Now you cant say the same for people who have lost there weapons, even if they werent to good to be true. Other wise i can understand.
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Don't forget, you can always play some more and get that stuff back.
cRPG is still being developed. Stuff is being tested and changed and experimented with. Be thankful that you weren't playing back when patches required a full character reset.
Its always the same though.
An easy way to avoid being "fucked over" like this is:
1) Use a balanced build
2) Don't use weapons that are obviously too good to be true
3) Don't use gear that everyone else uses, choose something rare
Every patch the items are re-(un)balanced. Surely people expect stat changes by now? And as for no heads-up, I'd prefer it if the item stats were completely hidden anyway.
And i would like to add, and have this taken in to consideration. Why dont we have the (DEV'S) Beta test the patch before releasing it into the game and having the players been fucked over, when the patch is screwed up in any way, Then they have to live with it, and suffer. I really would like that to be taken into consideration
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Alright. As you said Bane, you said i should play more to get the stuff back. I cant because when i play i loose shit loads of money. Now you cant say the same for people who have lost there weapons, even if they werent to good to be true. Other wise i can understand.
I thought the losing money thing was fixed? :?
Also, about losing weapons: I think a lot of people lost heirlooms (I lost my only one). This is probably because heirlooms were a bit too good to be true. But I think there was also a bug with non loading items, which will be fixed I imagine if it hasn't already.
And i would like to add, and have this taken in to consideration. Why dont we have the (DEV'S) Beta test the patch before releasing it into the game and having the players been fucked over, when the patch is screwed up in any way, Then they have to live with it, and suffer. I really would like that to be taken into consideration
Because the players are the beta testers.
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Huh i give up. I just hope they fix this soon!. Best of luck to you
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It's pretty discouraging to lose the generation bonus to such a great degree, and to lose the only heirloom I had (MW LEE). Now all the people who have been playing for quite some time, generation 10, 15, 20, or higher, have a stockpile of thrice loomed gear that most other players can never reasonably hope to attain. In my opinion, a change to the generation bonus should have been followed with a full reset, or at least an heirloom reset.
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It's pretty discouraging to lose the generation bonus to such a great degree, and to lose the only heirloom I had (MW LEE). Now all the people who have been playing for quite some time, generation 10, 15, 20, or higher, have a stockpile of thrice loomed gear that most other players can never reasonably hope to attain. In my opinion, a change to the generation bonus should have been followed with a full reset, or at least an heirloom reset.
What he said
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An easy way to avoid being "fucked over" like this is:
1) Use a balanced build
2) Don't use weapons that are obviously too good to be true
3) Don't use gear that everyone else uses, choose something rare
4. Don't play any sort of hybrid character. At all.
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It's pretty discouraging to lose the generation bonus to such a great degree, and to lose the only heirloom I had (MW LEE). Now all the people who have been playing for quite some time, generation 10, 15, 20, or higher, have a stockpile of thrice loomed gear that most other players can never reasonably hope to attain. In my opinion, a change to the generation bonus should have been followed with a full reset, or at least an heirloom reset.
The good news is that there will be a heirloom trading witht he strategus patch, so I'm sure some of us will be selling significant numbers of heirloomed items to raise gold for strategus fights.
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finally someone said what i've been thinking... this a an RPG game for christs sake! let us get some advantages when playing