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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: tizzango on February 03, 2013, 03:28:00 am

Title: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: tizzango on February 03, 2013, 03:28:00 am
Since lord of the rings is an excellent reference point for everything game mechanic-y.


Chambering throwing weapons.



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Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Kafein on February 03, 2013, 01:11:01 pm
I want to deflect arrows with my sword like Kili does.
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Belatu on February 03, 2013, 01:31:11 pm
In mononoke princess tere is anawesome part deflecting arrows ( they come from long distance so the feeling o realism is high imho)
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 03, 2013, 04:42:07 pm
...you are I are of the same mind...

Quote from: Commodore_Axephante on January 30, 2013, 03:50:54 am
Obviously LOTR is a good reference for everything...

...been using this exact scene to explain what CRPG should look like on several occasions!

But about chambering throwing... works in real life, doesn't it? I mean, that's how you play baseball/cricket, right?
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Latvian on February 03, 2013, 04:45:49 pm
more like this

Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: BlueKnight on February 03, 2013, 05:25:51 pm
Add the throwing knife licking like Lurtz does just before the throw.
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Tigero on February 03, 2013, 07:22:22 pm
I think this is a great idea!
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on February 04, 2013, 12:08:29 am

catching arrows, much better idea
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Rumblood on February 04, 2013, 03:01:46 am
Okay, chambering idea I'm behind. Open the chamber window on weapons. Sure, we may see alot more people chambering instead of blocking (and some may ignore blocking in favor of chambering altogether), but so what? The mod needs a shakeup in favor of skill.

Tavuk, that ninja catching an arrow video is a joke. Watch the arrow flight. It had already reached the peak of its arc and was falling to the ground at a point maybe 10 feet in front of the ninja. My daughters 20lb draw bow will fly WAY past that before dropping and the flight speed is way faster than that video and war bows are far more powerful than 20lb draw. It looks like he has maybe 3lb's of draw behind that shot. I can throw a spear faster than he shot that arrow ffs  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 04, 2013, 03:10:23 am
Quote from: Rumblood on February 04, 2013, 03:01:46 am
... we may see alot more people chambering instead of blocking (and some may ignore blocking in favor of chambering altogether)...

When I started this mod, I told myself "I'm just going to get so good at chambering that I can do that exclusively." Hasn't worked out that way so far :oops:
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Legs on February 04, 2013, 07:35:30 am
I think that people would rage a lot less over being killed by ranged weapons if there was a way to block them without using a shield. At least for me, a lot of the frustration comes from the fact that there's nothing that I can do to stop it even if I'm a foot away. Having a small skill-based chance to actually stop the projectile would help that immensely.
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: BlueKnight on February 04, 2013, 12:07:18 pm
Quote from: Legs on February 04, 2013, 07:35:30 am
I think that people would rage a lot less over being killed by ranged weapons if there was a way to block them without using a shield. At least for me, a lot of the frustration comes from the fact that there's nothing that I can do to stop it even if I'm a foot away. Having a small skill-based chance to actually stop the projectile would help that immensely.
You know that if arrowblocking is skill based then Atze and guys like him will be immortal ye?
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Aderyn on February 04, 2013, 12:38:01 pm
Quote from: Rumblood on February 04, 2013, 03:01:46 am
Okay, chambering idea I'm behind. Open the chamber window on weapons. Sure, we may see alot more people chambering instead of blocking (and some may ignore blocking in favor of chambering altogether), but so what? The mod needs a shakeup in favor of skill.

Tavuk, that ninja catching an arrow video is a joke. Watch the arrow flight. It had already reached the peak of its arc and was falling to the ground at a point maybe 10 feet in front of the ninja. My daughters 20lb draw bow will fly WAY past that before dropping and the flight speed is way faster than that video and war bows are far more powerful than 20lb draw. It looks like he has maybe 3lb's of draw behind that shot. I can throw a spear faster than he shot that arrow ffs  :rolleyes:

This

I have a 17 pound bow and i sometimes practise by shooting at someone else with a similar bow with the same arrow. I.e i shoot at him - he grabs it midair and shoots it back.

But if you have a bow used for any kind warfare (i used a 60 pound bow at archery for reference) it's damn near IMPOSSIBLE to move in time.
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Tigero on February 04, 2013, 02:07:24 pm
Quote from: Aderyn on February 04, 2013, 12:38:01 pm
This

I have a 17 pound bow and i sometimes practise by shooting at someone else with a similar bow with the same arrow. I.e i shoot at him - he grabs it midair and shoots it back.

But if you have a bow used for any kind warfare (i used a 60 pound bow at archery for reference) it's damn near IMPOSSIBLE to move in time.

Well firstly, warbows were about 100lb draw weight, but draw weight has nothing to do with the arrow speed, it only determines the maximum and optimal arrow weight along with the 'throw' and springiness of the bow. High draw weight longbows were not too springy so they used heavy arrows instead to maximize the bow's killing power. Nontheless all medieval bows were pretty slow in terms of arrow speed and if someone would fire from 20m it's still very possible to dodge the arrow, but definently not catch it.

But back to topic, about chambering thrown projectiles. I don't think that in reality it would be far fetched idea to deflect or atleast reduce the damage done by say and throwing axe, they are really slow and when spinning in the air a really big target for any stick like thing in 90 degrees angle to it's trajectory. Sure, it still might hit you but it wouldn't prolly crush your skull.
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Adamar on February 04, 2013, 02:19:46 pm
New mechanic for polearms

Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on February 04, 2013, 09:11:10 pm
Quote from: Rumblood on February 04, 2013, 03:01:46 am
Tavuk, that ninja catching an arrow video is a joke. Watch the arrow flight. It had already reached the peak of its arc and was falling to the ground at a point maybe 10 feet in front of the ninja. My daughters 20lb draw bow will fly WAY past that before dropping and the flight speed is way faster than that video and war bows are far more powerful than 20lb draw. It looks like he has maybe 3lb's of draw behind that shot. I can throw a spear faster than he shot that arrow ffs  :rolleyes:

i can't believe that you took my post seriously.. doood!
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Glyph on May 19, 2013, 12:20:10 pm
the ninja catching that arrow is bs, an English warbow would have a draw weight of about 130 pounds, like the ones found on the Mary Rose ship. a horse bow had a draw weight of about 65 pounds. a Yumi's max draw weight is 90 pounds. the reason the English warbow had such a high draw weight is because the English were the only ones who made the best use of the best wood in the world to make bows , which is yew. that didn't grow in asia or in the former persian empire(india to about turkey). yew wood is the best wood in the world to make bows out of because it has a natural lamination, the core of the tree is made of very hard wood which is hard to squeeze together, and the outer wood in the tree is made of a wood which can bear the stress of tension very well, these two properties were very important in making such a powerful bow. another reason why the english could use a warbow with a draw weight of 130 pounds is because every person was obligated to shoot 2 hours after church on sundays from the age of 5, so by the time those boys reached the age of 17, their arms and backs were grown to shoot a warbow(skeletons dug up from battlefields in the middle ages show spines that were deformed because they shot heavy warbows.
though the horse bows didn't have a lot of fire power, they did have speed and versatility because the bows were so damn short adn the use of thumb rings improved speed.
there is no way you can catch an arrow of a bow which doesn't have a draw weight of 15 pounds. and if a bow would have anything but an armour-piercing point, you would cut yourself.

And yes, I practice archery myself.
Title: Re: Chambering throwing weapons!
Post by: Byrdi on May 28, 2013, 01:38:59 pm
Throwers have been nerfed so much lately that they should receive some sort of compensation if this is implemented.

The suggestion is really good/fun, it would also balance things out between the faster/weaker and slower/stronger throwing weapons.

The strong and fast ones like jarids and throwing axes are so overused that the fast ones do not even seem like a worthwhile alternative :(

+1 to OP