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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Tzar on January 22, 2013, 01:34:45 pm

Title: Archery.
Post by: Tzar on January 22, 2013, 01:34:45 pm
I think its time we reduce the dmg by 50% on all bows.

Archers should not be able to penetrate any armor above 40.

Also the draw time should be increased by 120% this would make archers have to stand still for longer so i can catch up to them.

An last but not least lets increase the upkeep on all bows. if you want to be an archer you should have to pay extra.

An the arrow flight speed should be decreased you should have to aim for the sun if your targets are more then 5 feet away.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 01:39:58 pm
May your head attract projectiles of all sorts now and for all times until eternity, no matter the game.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Paul on January 22, 2013, 02:00:13 pm
OK, we'll divide archery damage by 50%.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Panos on January 22, 2013, 02:01:47 pm
I want to bitchslap all archers.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 02:05:19 pm
Quote from: Panos on January 22, 2013, 02:01:47 pm
I want to bitchslap all archers.

After the weight increase you can catch up with them and do it  :D
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Dalhi on January 22, 2013, 02:16:20 pm
The only problem with archery in cRPG is how it is  played by most of the people, not really a matter of their builds, damage they do etc. Even another 20 nerfs won't change it. In larger numbers of range units on one side it's nearly gamebraking for most of the poor folks, but that also applies to any other classes.

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Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Joseph Porta on January 22, 2013, 02:16:41 pm
I also think quivers shoupd only hold 4 arrows
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Tzar on January 22, 2013, 02:17:23 pm
Quote from: Joseph_Porta on January 22, 2013, 02:16:41 pm
I also think quivers shoupd only hold 4 arrows

Like throwing weapons  :?:  :lol:
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Molly on January 22, 2013, 02:20:35 pm
Quote from: Paul on January 22, 2013, 02:00:13 pm
OK, we'll divide archery damage by 50%.
I lol'd... but I am probably the only one who understood it  :?
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 02:22:18 pm
Quote from: benkei on January 22, 2013, 02:20:35 pm
I lol'd... but I am probably the only one who understood it  :?

Yeah you're probably the only person who understands anything at all. Please explain it to me because I'm an austrian incest basement child.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Molly on January 22, 2013, 02:26:24 pm
Quote from: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 02:22:18 pm
Yeah you're probably the only person who understands anything at all. Please explain it to me because I'm an austrian incest basement child.
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Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 02:29:45 pm
Quote from: benkei on January 22, 2013, 02:26:24 pm
umad?

Alright, now we're serious. If you ever dare and say something about my spoon collection ever again I'm gonna drink a whole glass of water!!! I swear I'll do it and you will regret that you ever tasted spaghetti! GAAAAAAARGHHHHH!!!!
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Panos on January 22, 2013, 02:52:51 pm
Quote from: benkei on January 22, 2013, 02:20:35 pm
I lol'd... but I am probably the only one who understood it  :?

German humor.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Piok on January 22, 2013, 03:02:35 pm
Just reduce ammo to realistic count. They will run out of ammo in first minute  :D
Still they can always pick ammo from ground :?
Less ammo less junk lying around  :D
Solves slot whining if only one quiver allowed :twisted:
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Leshma on January 22, 2013, 03:02:44 pm
Quote from: benkei on January 22, 2013, 02:20:35 pm
I lol'd... but I am probably the only one who understood it  :?

If you didn't quote him no way I could see it.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Nazurdin on January 22, 2013, 03:03:54 pm
Quote from: benkei on January 22, 2013, 02:20:35 pm
I lol'd... but I am probably the only one who understood it  :?
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Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Leshma on January 22, 2013, 03:08:27 pm
On-topic:

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Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 03:11:44 pm
Quote from: Piok on January 22, 2013, 03:02:35 pm
Just reduce ammo to realistic count. They will run out of ammo in first minute  :D
Still they can always pick ammo from ground :?
Less ammo less junk lying around  :D
Solves slot whining if only one quiver allowed :twisted:

Just make melee weapons breakable so they cannot spam for 7 minutes  :D
Still they can always pick up different weapons from ground  :?
Less melee weapons less junk lying around  :D
You're full of shit QQ
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Leshma on January 22, 2013, 03:14:20 pm
One MW DGS breaks, I just pick another one. You know, there are more of those lying around than arrows and bolts combined :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Piok on January 22, 2013, 03:16:18 pm
Quote from: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 03:11:44 pm
Just make melee weapons breakable so they cannot spam for 7 minutes  :D
Still they can always pick up different weapons from ground  :?
Less melee weapons less junk lying around  :D
You're full of shit QQ
Do you realize that average archer in this game commits more live threating attempts in one round then Ivani4 :wink:
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Molly on January 22, 2013, 03:24:17 pm
Quote from: Panos on January 22, 2013, 02:52:51 pm
German humor.
Not my fault you're too daft to get it... fucking racist!
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 03:26:07 pm
Quote from: benkei on January 22, 2013, 03:24:17 pm
Not my fault you're too daft to get it... fucking racist!

German attempt to use offensive language, failed like the blitzkrieg
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumbs on January 22, 2013, 03:27:22 pm
Ranged seems to stagger people more than anything else in the game. Feels like it even got worse recently. Even a really low damage ranged hit can get you killed. Make it so it doesn't screw you up so much when hit in melee, or when ranged are kiting

Headshots are random as hell and yet 1 hit kill

Xbows have no build requirements and are the worst implemented weapons in the game. They can even penetrate shields and do damage unless you spec way into shield skill, and then the weight from the shield makes it so you might as well play a pure shielder class

No incentive to put wpf high into melee when you can hybrid into xbows or throwing (with very minor build tweak)

Devs like ranged too much to change it though :D
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 03:29:22 pm
Quote from: Grumbs on January 22, 2013, 03:27:22 pm
Ranged seems to stagger people more than anything else in the game. Feels like it even got worse recently. Even a really low damage ranged hit can get you killed. Make it so it doesn't screw you up so much when hit in melee, or when ranged are kiting

Headshots are random as hell and yet 1 hit kill

Xbows have no build requirements and are the worst implemented weapons in the game. They can even penetrate shields and do damage unless you spec way into shield skill, and then the weight from the shield makes it so you might as well play a pure shielder class

No incentive to put wpf high into melee when you can hybrid into xbows or throwing (with very minor build tweak)

Devs like ranged too much to change it though :D

The one thing that you can really count on in this forum is the daily melee QQ.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumbs on January 22, 2013, 03:34:08 pm
And ranged always trying hard to maintain their cheese builds :D
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on January 22, 2013, 03:43:15 pm
Quote from: Grumbs on January 22, 2013, 03:34:08 pm
And ranged always trying hard to maintain their cheese builds :D

Well damn me, of course. I'm not whining about melee builds am I. I'm pissed when cav swarms me and kills me when I spawn at 6:30. I dont like it when some guy 1hits me or another one spams me with a katana agi build. But I dont QQ putting up nerf requests all the time. I do understand that someone made other choices than me when building up his character. Go to EU3 if you only wanna duel.
Ranged is part of the game and I think with the recent weight increases you can catch up pretty good with ranged in general unless you wear heavy armor.
And nobody forces anybody to charge a bunch of ranged without cover. But still people do it and then complain.

Even my basement daughter complains less than melee players in this game.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: cmp on January 22, 2013, 03:43:26 pm
Quote from: Tzar on January 22, 2013, 01:34:45 pm
I think its time we reduce the dmg by 50% on all bows.

I think it's time you stop posting stupid suggestions.

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Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumbs on January 22, 2013, 03:49:15 pm
cmp do you guys have any plans for ranged tweaks?
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Tzar on January 22, 2013, 04:54:04 pm
Quote from: cmpxchg8b on January 22, 2013, 03:43:26 pm
I think it's time you stop posting stupid suggestions.

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Shit i think your sarcasm detector is broke again cmp.

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Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Leshma on January 22, 2013, 04:58:12 pm
Don't understand why he has problem with your threads regarding mod balance. It's not like he reads any of them.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Rainbow on January 22, 2013, 10:08:42 pm
Add a stealth ability that sneaks up to archers and 1 shots them.  BWAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Belatu on January 22, 2013, 10:13:39 pm
Ramdom permadeath Archer Chars
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Rainbow on January 22, 2013, 10:15:40 pm
A shadow creature all non archers can summon that chokes out archers at random.
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Son Of Odin on January 22, 2013, 10:22:30 pm
Well but really there is something wrong when an arrow does more damage than my +3 heavy lance's stab :(
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on January 23, 2013, 08:00:55 am
Quote from: Son Of Odin on January 22, 2013, 10:22:30 pm
Well but really there is something wrong when an arrow does more damage than my +3 heavy lance's stab :(

Why?
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Macropus on January 23, 2013, 09:54:56 am
Quote from: Son Of Odin on January 22, 2013, 10:22:30 pm
Well but really there is something wrong when an arrow does more damage than my +3 heavy lance's stab :(
Seems quite logical, considering that arrow weighs a lot now and flies a lot faster  :P

By the way, since arrow weight is increased greatly, why not give it secondary melee mode?
Title: Re: Archery.
Post by: Life on January 23, 2013, 10:11:27 am
C-rpg will not be nerfing or buffing because you refuse to use teamwork or tactics.  Have a good day sir