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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Firebrand on January 18, 2013, 07:09:18 pm
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Message from Valkyrja!
To all free people of Calradia.
Do you hear it? Can you hear moan and cry? Look around, don't you see all these traces of blood? Can you feel the smell of smoke and fire? Behold this is our mother cries bleeding and dying in pain, our mother-Calradia! Evil Hordes are trampling her flesh and drinking her blood! They came from oblivion to bring tyranny and death to our land.
Ask old blindman on the roadside and he will answer you! Ask him! He will tell you the name! The name of demon's legion torturing this land! Even blind old man knows their name! Grey Order! Posseded by greed and hate, they put in slavery everyone they meet, using black magic to veil their terrifying face they luring innocent souls and turn them into servants of evil! They tortured this land too long confident that noone will punish them.
Listen to your heart free sons and daughters of Calradia! Our mother call you to arms to protect her and kill the beast torturing her soul! Take your sword saddle your horse it's time to fight! Enemy of freedom must fall!
Today i saw their leader sneaking around me! Yes i saw him! He ran away from us in safe village, he left his servant to die by our swords! Let him see from safe village how his servant will bleed out to death! And then we will come for him! To clash in honour battle!
We are calling every soldier to join the battle: horsemen, swordsmen, archers, x-bowmen, shielders and polearmers! Calradia needs you! Lets nail the evil in it's heart! We are Valkyrjas - smallest faction in Calradia - no fear in our hearts - we know we are right! Our army is blessed by Odin himself to bring us victory!
Spears shall be shaken! Shields shall be splintered! The Battle Day!
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2018
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2022
Those who has eyes to see
Don't let the fear penetrate your heart!
Don't let spells veil your mind! Look into enemy face!
Lord Of Chaos, He Who Arise from Oblivion shall be thrown back into Abyss!
Behold this is his face
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Can't promise for sure, but we now have good chance to catch Harpag, he is trying to escape us second time! We will see if we will be lucky to catch him! Stay tuned all freemen of Calradia!
Yes! We blocked Harpag with 7000 crates of stolen property of poor Balanli peasants! Let swords clash!
Our generals and our friends showed great cooperation in this mission. I wanna thank all valI love you and friendly faction BlackFists!!!You were great!
Join us free calradians in this stuggle against usurpers and tyrants! Freedom to Calradia!!!
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You have nice imagination. What do you smokes?+
Where our leader leave Grey Order? Where?
Don't write bullshits. How do you want to do this in a propagandize this civilized way.
Slaves? Where?
"Tired Vagabonds
Remorseful Bandits
Defeated Lords
Knights Without Sovereign
Ronins Who Lost Shogun
Rich Mercenaries Seeking Home
Pilgrims Who Never End Their Pilgrimage
ONCE SCATTERED
NOW GATHERED TOGETHER
TO REDEEM THEIR SINS IN
GREY ORDER"
Where is this magic word "slaves"?
You are the dogs of the Coalition.
Wild and stupid Barbarians from Mountains.
Who are you Valkyr? What you have done? Where is Country and Valkyrja lands? Where? In imaginations?
"We are trollers omomomomomom, we have "BIIIIIIIGGGGG" army! We have 5 players omomomomomom"
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Please close and delete this topic.
This topic spoil the atmosphere and are too emotionally to play
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Common don't spoil. You are roleplay bad empire so be bad. Empire - emperor - servants - slaves. You make people "bots"(slaves, ants whatever) you closed your borders within your carebear UIF, you don't let anyone to trade in your fiefs. You made other factions unite against you in other huge alliance like Coalition or anti-UIF who are the same carebear alliance as you are(with closed borders). They are sitting and attacking just randomers protecting their s\d. That's bullshit.. You just spoil fun for small clans, randomers and newbies. You(UIF and Coalition) always attack only weak and helpless targets and then you feel proud how much your are mighty and cool! And you have so narrow point of view that you can't imagine that there is free people, free from Coalition, UIF and other carebears. And they can kick ass!:)
P.S. I have nothing personally against you guys. I am sure you are(or many of you) nice guys. Its just roleplay as i could see strategus and its factions. Chaged words slaves on servants in OP.
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Hahah Grey Order are Empire? No, no no xD
If you fight for the freedom fight against the UIF and the Coalition
True freedom is independence, Chief.
Next time don't use stupid images from Warhammer and other fantasy Chaos images.
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I shall join your holy cause against Harpmy old friend the Gay.
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Panos the Kidnapper maybe go sleep
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Panos the Kidnapper maybe go sleep
Maybe you should learn some english first?
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Hahah Grey Order are Empire? No, no no xD
If you fight for the freedom fight against the UIF and the Coalition
True freedom is independence, Chief.
Next time don't use stupid images from Warhammer and other fantasy Chaos images.
LOl of course you are independed ... United Independed Factions!
Open your borders and let free ppl to trade in your lands! I will cancel my attack!
And that picture is not stupid Warhammer... Its cool thrash band Kreator. \m/ And it represent Lord of Chaos that enslaved souls of my enemies. Once i will destroy him and throw into Abyss you will be free. And become nice and friendly faction! :evil:
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Open your borders and let free ppl to trade in your lands! I will cancel my attack!
We do not close the borders, you are helping the Coalition.
We will not be trading with you.
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Small inexperienced faction fighting grey order.
You got balls, i like balls :twisted:
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We do not close the borders, you are helping the Coalition.
We will not be trading with you.
Well i ask not for myself but for guys who wanna trade in your lands! Let them come to and let them trade like in Dhirim area. Of course if someone will attack you or other in your lands you can destroy him. You can rise taxes to have profit and free ppl will get ability to trade make money and for them game will have some point. If you will do this i will retreat from your lands after battles!
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Dhirim belongs to the Mercenaries :D
We not blocked trade in this area :D:D:D:D
Maybe destroy Merc's and take Dhirim ;d?
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Mercs are my friends. I like how they made Dhirim as free area for trading for all(randomers, newbies, small clans)! I like it. I never saw if mercs attacked unarmed targets for spending s\d! So mercs are fair in my eyes!
Why don't you follow their example? :D
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Dhirim belongs to the Mercenaries :D
We not blocked trade in this area :D:D:D:D
Maybe destroy Merc's and take Dhirim ;d?
I don't think you understand what he said about dhirim... I think he wonders why you don't open your borders, just like we did in dhirim area. Can't survive and help poor small clans at the same time?
Also, taking dhirim is the most idiotic thing to do... everyone is welcome there, if you wanna hurt mercs, try killing us in the north ;) Ofc grey order already tried to kill mercs in dhirm, the only consistent free trading area in EU, but they didn't succeed.
Also, no you don't block trade in your area, but everyone that is not in uif seems to support coalition in your eyes :rolleyes:
Sorry, felt like trowing in some drama, btw, since when does grey order let a newbie take the word on the diplo forum? :)
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Im not diplomat xDD
I'm kidding with this Valkyr role play agitation.
I do not know so well English.
I learn all time German and I work for a German company
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Dhirim is hardly a real free area, never truly was, and ofc they don't open borders, randomly opening your borders is silly while you actively need S&D and need to make sure no no one spies, but maybe you could like have tried talking to the greys back when their borders were closed and you weren't Eastern, heck back when their borders were closed even openly anti bloc people like me who continuesly told people from UIF that while I appreciated them letting me through/use a bit of S&D/purchase some weaponry/whatever then I'd still fight them and Eastern, you however make love with the Eastern bloc and then expect UIF to let you just walk around, that's a bit idiotic, and just like Easterns Dhirim Greys and DRZ got open borders to all none-eastern scum nowadays so...
Haboe regarding "Also, no you don't block trade in your area, but everyone that is not in uif seems to support coalition in your eyes " then our faction members have several times passed through their lands since they opened their borders and I've always been openly anti UIF, I'm just slightly more anti Eastern.
Haboe yeah, everyone with less than 300 troops, with the only place that's being stated being in mad raging pms from gingerpussy, and with huge amounts of taxes. But that's not the main reason I think the Dhirim area has always been bullshitty, several times during this strategus you've used the Dhirim area to get random players to give you troops/gold (day after 1k+ army leaves Dhirim for Nord lands new "Give us your troops so we can defend Dhirim" thread pops up, when you felt you needed more troops you'd post about selling the area in the hopes that randommers would give you troops to convince you not too, as an excuse to completely wipe United Democratic (one of the many stated reasons was that they let greys get land in the Dhirim area), and all those kinds of things.
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I was randomer and newbie, and only place where i had free pass was Dhirim. I was never attacked spending shit s\d there. I could buy some goods in Dhirim but where to sell it? Omg. Kapikulu closed borders, Drz closed their borders, Coalition closed borders. Everybody close their borders. Wtf.
You whine about taxes but i think its fair method to have money. Why you all eu big factions are so greedy? I play half year in strat to earn shiny army trying to trade here and there and finally i got epic battle! For half-year hard grinding what this shit is? :) And if i would lose then i will need another half year to earn new army? Never. I did like that: i came to greys capture their villages emptied all their s\d in those villages and made 1 000 000 giold for few days. Thats the way you push ppl to hate you and steal your s\d.
I see hard times for greys are coming. Many factions will march to greys lands after us, Valkyrjas and will take their lands! Our mission almost done with Grey Order. But we will keep fighting other monopolists carebear factions-alliances! Druzhina for example! :twisted: :twisted:
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I was randomer and newbie, and only place where i had free pass was Dhirim. I was never attacked spending shit s\d there. I could buy some goods in Dhirim but where to sell it? Omg. Kapikulu closed borders, Drz closed their borders, Coalition closed borders. Everybody close their borders. Wtf.
You whine about taxes but i think its fair method to have money. Why you all eu big factions are so greedy? I play half year in strat to earn shiny army trying to trade here and there and finally i got epic battle! For half-year hard grinding what this shit is? :) And if i would lose then i will need another half year to earn new army? Never. I did like that: i came to greys capture their villages emptied all their s\d in those villages and made 1 000 000 giold for few days. Thats the way you push ppl to hate you and steal your s\d.
I see hard times for greys are coming. Many factions will march to greys lands after us, Valkyrjas and will take their lands! Our mission almost done with Grey Order. But we will keep fighting other monopolists carebear factions-alliances! Druzhina for example! :twisted: :twisted:
Grey order is not a carebear faction-alliance, *facepalm*, UIF however, is, same way Eastern (the bloc you're in) is a carebear alliance, you're in no way any better than UIF. And have you ever thought that when people close their borders it might be a good idea to like ask them if you'll be allowed to trade/pass through there? Mostly closed borders are just for better organisation of shit.
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Grey order is not a carebear faction-alliance, *facepalm*, UIF however, is, same way Eastern (the bloc you're in) is a carebear alliance, you're in no way any better than UIF. And have you ever thought that when people close their borders it might be a good idea to like ask them if you'll be allowed to trade/pass through there? Mostly closed borders are just for better organisation of shit.
Eastern bloc... Well you are right. I saw it. They closed they borders aswell and even for their friends they allowed to trade in one shitty village. To be honest i hate it too, i hate that many factions attacking on left and on right lone helpless targets, protecting their s\d. And that they do is sitting in their castles attacking randomers and grabbing abandoned castles... They have huge armies and still doing nothing. I myself with 700 troops penetrated in greys lands grabbed 2 villages in one day. And they still sitting and .. waiting. What is this tactic? Or what?
You say i am in coalition. Am I? No. They fight for me in battles? No. They fight AGAINST their enemies. So you are wrong i am no way in Eastern. I am on my own! We just have same enemies at the moment(thanks to UIF!).
I think that Estern bloc(for few exceptions) itself turned in same shit as UIF - lazy carebear alliance sitting on ass and doing nothing but attacking weak targets. And i can tell that sooner or later Eastern bloc will share destiny of Greys and UIF it will be destroyed!
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Coalition... Well you are right. I saw it. They closed they borders aswell and even for their friends they allowed to trade in one shitty village. To be honest i hate it too, i hate that Coalition guys attacking on left and on right lone helpless targets, protecting their s\d. And that they do is sitting in their castles attacking randomers and grabbing abandoned castles... They have huge armies and still doing nothing. I myself with 700 troops penetrated in greys lands grabbed 2 villages in one day. And they still sitting and .. waiting. What is this tactic? Or what?
You say i am in coalition. Am I? No. They fight for me in battles? No. They fight AGAINST their enemies. So you are wrong i am no way in Coalition. I think that Coalition itself turned in same shit as UIF - lazy carebear alliance sitting on ass and doing nothing but attacking weak targets. And i can tell that sooner or later Coalition will share destiny of Greys and UIF it will be destroyed!
Not just talking coalition, talking the entire Eastern carebear alliance. And like it or not last I checked Valkyiras or whatever its name was is a member of Eastern, my source:
""Ragnir perhaps told you about your vassalge to the Wolves.
We have several traiding palces within Coallition area and the desert.
Still i would need to clear you and the other Valkyiras first with the coallition that you wouldn't get attacked and they then know you do these trade runs with us.
I expected all your guys around a week ago in Khudan, and would have contacted you then how and where you would be engaging. Please talk with your firends and let them know first to come to Khudan and then your clan/faction leader should get in conntact with me, best camping our ts(cotgs.de)"
I just got that message from kinngrimm
You guys probably noticed that i dont do anything for any of you guys and i have new plans in strategus aswell.
Farewell and good luck" -Latrinenkobold. So unlss something changed you're still a member of the Eastern Carebear bloc.
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Not just talking coalition, talking the entire Eastern carebear alliance. And like it or not last I checked Valkyiras or whatever its name was is a member of Eastern, my source:
""Ragnir perhaps told you about your vassalge to the Wolves.
We have several traiding palces within Coallition area and the desert.
Still i would need to clear you and the other Valkyiras first with the coallition that you wouldn't get attacked and they then know you do these trade runs with us.
I expected all your guys around a week ago in Khudan, and would have contacted you then how and where you would be engaging. Please talk with your firends and let them know first to come to Khudan and then your clan/faction leader should get in conntact with me, best camping our ts(cotgs.de)"
I just got that message from kinngrimm
You guys probably noticed that i dont do anything for any of you guys and i have new plans in strategus aswell.
Farewell and good luck" -Latrinenkobold. So unlss something changed you're still a member of the Eastern Carebear bloc.
Yes. I accepted wassalge from wolves. And wolves are my support! They support me to fill roster. This game has most shitty roster system. Its like if you are unknown person you won't fill roster, so no matter how big your army is, you will lose anyway. Roster is thing i can't fight unfortunally... I have 4 men clan for fun. And i don't want it bigger. Kinngrimm suggest me to be part of CFA with same rights, i did refuse, i don't care politics, conversations, relations and other shit, that strategus based on. I like risk and war operations like last one with Greys. My goals the same as wolves to fight UIF cause UIF is reason of other shit like anti-UIF or Eastern bloc. But if i will decide to fight Coalition nothing can stop me.
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That does not change you being a vassal of a member of Eastern and therefore indirectly a member of Eastern thus making it 100% sensemaking for UIF not to let you wander around in their fiefs.
And also making you just as much a member of an evil megaempire as Harpag.
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That does not change you being a vassal of a member of Eastern and therefore indirectly a member of Eastern thus making it 100% sensemaking for UIF not to let you wander around in their fiefs.
And also making you just as much a member of an evil megaempire as Harpag.
Exactly. But i didn't ask greys to let ME free pass, cause i don't need their permission to wander in their lands. I just want eu strat to be more friendly for all! For fun sake. Its not fun for anyone sitting on fat asses and doing nothing. Or attacking weak enemy. They wiped Democratic. Yes it was so honorable, most helpless faction so sweet target for brave grumpy robocops. Same shit will happen with Greys. When they will understand that greys are weak and helpless they will come and tear them on peaces. And then they will sit back again and will wait doing nothing... For months... Brr.
I mean lets fun. You have huge armies - so use them, attack, assault flank enemies, penetrate in their backlines! And do it not when enemy is broke or inactive but vice versa when he is strong and can resist!
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They wiped Democratic. Yes it was so honorable, most helpless faction so sweet target for brave grumpy robocops. Same shit will happen with Greys. When they understand that greys are weak and helples they will came and tear them on peaces. And then they will sit back again and will wait doing nothing... For months... Brr.
United Democratic was making deals with Eastern, from their perspective it appeared as if they'd be joining the enemy, so they struck before Eastern grew even larger, which is more than reasonable, and guess what, Grey didn't actually wipe United Democratic, Eastern did.
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United Democratic was making deals with Eastern, from their perspective it appeared as if they'd be joining the enemy, so they struck before Eastern grew even larger, which is more than reasonable, and guess what, Grey didn't actually wipe United Democratic, Eastern did.
Actually democratic wiped themseves from map. We couldn't organize ourselves and were just unprepared to any war. Then Olwen made some deals with harpag and mercs destroyed him. After that i left democratic. All in all Democratic front was nice attampt to build neutral faction on democratic basement. I like it. My clan has same structure - everyone is leader and free i cant order other member what to do!!
U accuse me that i am part of same carebear alliance like UIF i fight. Firstly have i choice? Who will apply for me if i will be neutral? Secondly UIF is the first reason why anti-UIF was born isn't. So when UIF will fall, anti-UIF will fall aswell and then we could have messy fun between smaller clans! Thats how i see strategus 4 with eyes of newbie! :rolleyes:
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Actually democratic wiped themseves from map. We couldn't organize ourselves and were just unprepared to any war. Then Olwen made some deals with harpag and mercs destroyed him. After that i left democratic. All in all Democratic front was nice attampt to build neutral faction on democratic basement. I like it. My clan has same structure - everyone is leader and free i cant order other member what to do!!
U accuse me that i am part of same carebear alliance like UIF i fight. Firstly have i choice? Who will apply for me if i will be neutral? Secondly UIF is the first reason why anti-UIF was born isn't. So when UIF will fall, anti-UIF will fall aswell and then we could have messy fun between smaller clans! Thats how i see strategus 4 with eyes of newbie! :rolleyes:
Yes, you were unorganized and unprepared for war, cost of democracy is inefficiency, however Olwen never made any actual deals with greys, he just talked trash, DaveUKR said himself that Harpag had said before that letting Olwen ever join greys was a mistake and greys were mainly trolling when they talked about giving United Democratic the Dhirim area, so that claim is fucking bullshit, Olwen wasn't the only guy who got attacked either. And the real reason United Democratic died was that the majority of people who jumped on it thought that it was the cool guy anti bloc Eastern member and got pissed once they realized that they weren't supposed to make love to Eastern and never understood PTXs image of an actual free clan that didn't bend over to either bloc.
You're a part of a carebear alliance, you had a choice and you still do, even I can get a full roster for my battles and I'm not exactly popular, anti-UIF is not gonna go into a large amount of small clans, coalition, Apostles, Crusader alliance, Cold Front (heck Cold front is actually somewhat fair though seeing as they're just a few low population clans) aren't all gonna split up, and odds are they won't even leave each other.
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Ok and who do you fight on your own?
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Oh the tears, they are glorious.
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United Democratic was making deals with Eastern, from their perspective it appeared as if they'd be joining the enemy, so they struck before Eastern grew even larger, which is more than reasonable, and guess what, Grey didn't actually wipe United Democratic, Eastern did.
United democratic wiped themselves when they asked for my fief and moved towards it with an army when we said no...
As for dhirim, how is it not a free trading area? Everyone can use what they want as long as they stick to the rules of not bringing army's to it or fight there... Gingers raging is no new thing, and can always be ignored. Troops going to and from nords are troops from our northern fiefs. I haven't been counting properly, but at least 10.000 armed troops were send from the north to dhirim to defend it, for the lonely traders. So no, we are not leeching of randomers, ginger asked them to help us defend the area.
Eastern block is only there because of the UIF. As long as uif exists the rest of the map only has a chance if they ally together. They did, and when UIF is gone so will the eastern block.
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Eastern block is only there because of the UIF. As long as uif exists the rest of the map only has a chance if they ally together. They did, and when UIF is gone so will the eastern block.
As I've said before, once the entire eastern bloc properly disbands I'll apologize for my mistrust, but I still do not see that really happening this round (closet to Eastern disbanding I see is them breaking into Coalition, Crusader Alliance, Apostles, and Cold Front, and even there I doubt you'd really ever wage war on eachother).
My main grudges with Dhirim has always been that you were moving troops out of it while asking for troops to defend it, you complaining about how United Democratic let greys get land in the Dhirim area, the random rules that weren't listed in the actual Dhirim threads that you only heard by mad gingerpussy pms, and that gingerpussy continuously used it to talk about how nice mercs are when truth be told you were allowed to trade with most groups if you only bothered asking first.
And United Democratic was not planning on taking your fief.
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I'm looking forward to your apology then :)
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United democratic wiped themselves when they asked for my fief and moved towards it with an army when we said no...
As for dhirim, how is it not a free trading area? Everyone can use what they want as long as they stick to the rules of not bringing army's to it or fight there... Gingers raging is no new thing, and can always be ignored. Troops going to and from nords are troops from our northern fiefs. I haven't been counting properly, but at least 10.000 armed troops were send from the north to dhirim to defend it, for the lonely traders. So no, we are not leeching of randomers, ginger asked them to help us defend the area.
Eastern block is only there because of the UIF. As long as uif exists the rest of the map only has a chance if they ally together. They did, and when UIF is gone so will the eastern block.
Wait, what? Keep off the drugs, kid.
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Glory! Glory to all free people of calradia!
One more evil legion is defeated!
We bring freedom to Calradia on our wings. I can see rage of Master of Darkness! We brought light of freedom in hearts of all enslaved people. Grey Order soon will be free from evil spell of Beast. I see our mission is almost done with Greys. I had talk to greys leader Harpag. And i saw his heart soon will be free! UIF will fall! And then its members will be free again! So we, Valkyrjas will continue to fight with evil in others alliances and factions! To clear heart and minds!
Celebrate all! This is one more Victory for the glory and freedom!
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In a outsider it seems,this is several fights,who won best interests?
Valkyrja? NO. Grey Order? NO.
the biggest interests winner someone else... :wink:
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My main grudges with Dhirim has always been that you were moving troops out of it while asking for troops to defend it
So far we only moved out troops from Dhirim for attacking Olwens army, reconquering Tshibtin from the greys and to expand down to Grunwalder Castle. We are sending stuff down to dhirim area instead of taking from it (some exceptions may be caravans equipped in Dhirim, but i dont know about that).
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Surely the point with strat is its free form and people can do what they like? Some might not like what greys do but have to live with it and if they then find way to fuck up greys the greys should live with that too. I've tried for ages as independent trader and cant get anywhere, everytime I build up a little get mugged and few centres you can sell anything in. Answer - join a big clan or dont bother with strat.
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Being independant in strat just could work when the independants work somehow togehter :D
Its simpel logic that one alone cant do much.. nothing new
spread this group in calradia and maybe clanless guys like u and me could get some fun in strat...
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/free-peopel-of-calradia/