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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: BlackMilk on April 29, 2011, 09:20:47 am
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Longsword
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 98
shield width: 106
thrust damage: 22 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut
weapon length: 106
price : 6,600
Katana
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
shield width: 95
thrust damage: 16 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
weapon length: 95
Price : 9,376
It's a bit unfair, isnt it?
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Seems a tad unbalanced.
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Fine with me, I don't want a 101 speed longsword, 101 speed is already pretty fast and stats are fine.
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Just lower the katana price and everything is almost fine
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.But its so fast.
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.But its so fast.
Indeed it is. BUT it has : low range, low cut damage, more or less no pierce damage and its expensive.
Buff the katana, dont decrease the price.
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Its price is fine, if you wanna look like a stupid ninja you should pay for it.
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Its price is fine, if you wanna look like a stupid ninja you should pay for it.
Lame.
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Price is fine, it costs to be unique, but the thrust is ridiculous, if they wanted to remove it from the katana, why do it in such a roundabout way?
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They allready explained the katana to be a exotic weapon so the price stays.
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Shield... width?
What?
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Its price is fine, if you wanna look like a stupid ninja you should pay for it.
+1
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You see it yourself: drop the katana and take the longsword. What else?
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Lower the Katana's price or try balancing things more mechanically but this definitely needs a change.
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Remove Katana, Wakizashi entirely.
Add single 2-slot weapon called "Daito" that costs as much as both combined.
Press X to switch between the long and short swords.
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They allready explained the katana to be a exotic weapon so the price stays.
And whats with the stats? :P
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Nerf katana a bit ?
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They allready explained the katana to be a exotic weapon so the price stays.
We know, we pay import tax. But how come the chinese swords don't?
Not saying they should, but it's a little odd. I'm sitting on a solid 1.2 million gold and I still earn money, especially since the bamboo spear is no longer a weapon I use.
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Remove Katana, Wakizashi entirely.
Add single 2-slot weapon called "Daito" that costs as much as both combined.
Press X to switch between the long and short swords.
Programm it.
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Easy as fuck to do so, pressing x to switch from 1h to 2h is how the lange (or grosse) messer works.
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Programm it.
Dravic, every mode-switchable weapon in the game switches to a separate but identical weapon model when the mode switches, sometimes with specific changes such as grip points/orientation (such as with half-sword, or various throwing spears). I'm no coder, but I do know how computers work, and if there's a significant obstacle to making the weapon model change slightly along with the stats when the mode is switched, I can't imagine what it would be.
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As I said switching to 1 handed animations and allowing to use a shield from 2 handed and block the shield is piss easy, everything is there to make it work, if you use the warband tool.
Switch a model however requires a new model, especially if you want to keep the same anims but switch sides.
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Heavy Bastard Sword
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 98
shield width: 105
thrust damage: 22 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut
weapon length: 105
Secondary Mode
Price : 5,480
Katana
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
shield width: 95
thrust damage: 16 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
weapon length: 95
Price : 9,736
It's a bit meh, isnt it? :p
So you have to pay a "bit more" to use the japanese stuff? But why do I have to pay over 5k more a weapon, which stats' arent even better?
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You pay for the speed.
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Bastard Sword:
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 99
shield width: 101
thrust damage: 21 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
weapon length: 101
Secondary Mode
Price: 4012
Heavy Bastard Sword
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 98
shield width: 105
thrust damage: 22 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut
weapon length: 105
Secondary Mode
Price : 5,480
Speed doesn't seem to cost that much
Then again if you compare bastard sword to katana speed, seems to cost quite a bit.
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I own a Katana for pure fun. No idea why I purchased it, but I did. It's very fast. Yes. I constantly find myself outspamming 2handers who have longer swords such as bastard swords, or sometimes even longsword users.. All you have to do is spam feint spam left slash spam feint spam overhead/right slash and you win. Honestly if you have any sort of skill you wouldn't be complaining about the weapon on forums, but in-game honing those skills instead. My point being the current Katana is a fine weapon, and we don't need the game more broken/unbalanced than it already is.
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A riveting anecdote. visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Now, let me share my own anecdote. I tried some sword swinging(keep in mind I only did it twice per weapon) and came up with that I swing the bastard sword 62-63 times per minute and the katana 64-66 times per minute.
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The speed of katana doesn't let you outspam anyone else but maul users with pure strength builds. And that's doable with pretty much any weapon.