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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Over on January 12, 2013, 05:01:19 am

Title: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Over on January 12, 2013, 05:01:19 am
I've had this idea for a while: what if you could play a tin can, and not go broke?
I played a 36/3 polearmer in the past, and I loved how it felt when arrows bounced off, and puny weaklings had their blows glance off, leaving me unscathed. I did NOT LOVE how much Heavy plate armor cost me, and how I could only have fun half the time. So I got to thinking, how could you make Heavy armor cheap, without breaking the game?

Then, I watched Hobo With A Shotgun.
http://imgur.com/AciRy (http://imgur.com/AciRy)
HOLY SH** HAVE YOU SEEN THIS SHI**?
THESE GUYS ARE WEARING GODDAMN SLABS OF STEEL.
THE HOBO'S SHOTGUN IS NOT EFFECTIVE.

But, How can anyone move in something like that? Realistically?
Answer: They can't, not easily.
Would it be CHEAP to Make though?
YES. And this would apply to Medieval smiths too.

So, how about an armor, that you need to be Very High STR to use, and slows you down like hell, but is CHEAP?
You get to be a tank, you just don't get to be a tank all over the map. Think turtles.

Milanese, What I feel is the Tankiest "Normal" armor.
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Proposed stats for this "Crude Plate" Armor
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Much slower than milanese, But with the same protection. Much cheaper, But only STR crutcher tanks can even wear it.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 12, 2013, 05:16:49 am
your idea of making plate armor better is good, but your intentions are wrong. You want to make it cheaper too?
plate is OP already, it should be unaffordable to balance it
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Over on January 12, 2013, 05:42:06 am
The idea is to make it a lot heavier, rather than more expensive, for the sake of balance. Imagine if tincans were 2/3 their current speed. I think It would be fine.
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 12, 2013, 07:12:40 am

juuuuust sayin'
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Sagar on January 12, 2013, 10:39:59 am
Back in Medieval times plate armor is made ​​so knight could quite comfortably move and fight sometimes for several days - in the case of siege or something. The notion that people have used it was almost impossible to move in that armor is wrong. A full suit of medieval plate is thought to have weighed little more than 60 lb (27 kg), on average lighter than the equipment often carried by today's armies which averages at around 90 lb (40 kg).

Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Haboe on January 12, 2013, 10:58:35 am
Quote from: Over on January 12, 2013, 05:01:19 am

Would it be CHEAP to Make though?
YES. And this would apply to Medieval smiths too.



False?


And 15 more weight does not compensate for 20k less cost...
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: StormFaction on January 12, 2013, 05:51:12 pm
I personally don't think there should be any more incentives to strength crutch :/
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Over on January 12, 2013, 10:56:19 pm
It's just a sugquestion. As for realism, I don't see anything wrong with armor where made by a cheapers smith, where more metal is a substiture for skill.
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Kafein on January 13, 2013, 12:51:20 pm
How about...

no ?
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Over on January 13, 2013, 08:24:43 pm
I make a suggestion, get 7 infamy.
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Smoothrich on January 13, 2013, 08:32:07 pm
Quote from: Over on January 13, 2013, 08:24:43 pm
I make a suggestion, get 7 infamy.

Just went and -1'd every post of yours in this thread, enjoy, STR plate scrub
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Torben on January 13, 2013, 08:32:57 pm
how about a battered milanese?  put some dents n rust on the model from now,  keep its weight but give it

Requirement:16 strength
Weight:25.5
Shop price:31,632 gold
Body armor:56
Leg armor:15

for 20k?

its still plate stat wise,  would actually make sense balance wise  if you take a look at the shop,  and would add rp and variety to the field. 
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Torben on January 13, 2013, 08:34:12 pm
Quote from: Over on January 13, 2013, 08:24:43 pm
I make a suggestion, get 7 infamy.

dont take it personally,  if the rating system is in a way to show support for a suggestion,  yours just doesnt get any : /

Quote from: Smoothrich on January 13, 2013, 08:32:07 pm
Just went and -1'd every post of yours in this thread, enjoy, STR plate scrub

dude get some manners.
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Osiris on January 13, 2013, 08:36:14 pm
Quote from: Torben on January 13, 2013, 08:34:12 pm

dude get some manners.


can you believe that guy is an admin :/
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Joseph Porta on January 14, 2013, 11:26:35 pm
Wonder how long he'll last once shit gets serious.  :P
Title: Re: Str Crutchers made affordable, and balanced.
Post by: Smoothrich on January 15, 2013, 01:01:50 am
Oh please.  Everyone just -1'd this thread because full strength heavy armor builds are considered the scrubbiest and stupidest things in cRPG and the great majority don't want to see them encouraged.  I was just explaining why everyone -1'd him.  Crassly.