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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Christo on April 27, 2011, 08:19:28 pm
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Alright, here is a little game, I will ask you some questions, and I want them answered immediately!
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Who is your da.. I mean;
What is your most hated playstyle, and what "class" are you?
On a serious note, I know the game can be frustrating, so tell us what's the problem for you?
I'll begin:
I am a Polearm on Foot/Cavalry Hybrid, and I just can't stand ranged, and lolstabbing 2h.
It's your turn!
I'll also add up a poll, but I would like to see detailed responses, and it will also take some time to write a complex poll.
Thank you for reading.
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Basically crush crutch and throwers using javelins or higher are the worse to me.
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I just dont get the archer hate, I hardly ever get killed by one. Grab a shield or learn to juke. :rolleyes:
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Crushthrough abusers (ironmace and barmace), side sword/huscarl users, throwers, HAs, the rest. In order of most hated to least hated. Basically once the next patch is out, HAs are hated, the rest are fine (hopefully).
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Added a poll.
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Throwers with throwing lances, and HA just out of principle alone
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Archers, throwers, 1h, poleanim abusing poleguys.
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I particularly hate infantry with crossbows who either won't help allies fight because they'd rather shoot into melee or who join a charge and then stop to shoot before it contacts the enemy, leaving the proper infantry to be ganked.
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2h+crossbow/throwing and heavy lance users (115% of cavalry players) who backstab half my team
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2h+crossbow and heavy lance users (115% of cavalry players)
Give us something else that's useful then, and isn't situational sir.
:wink:
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I've tried pretty much every class that there is. And even though some are annoying i've seen their point of view. So i can't really say i hate any class except for 1 special.
2handed swordsman with lolstab.
It's just a cheap move. Not only when i'm on the receiving end of a lolstab but also when i was doing them myself. It's so cheap and the dmg is too good and too easy to pull off.
My vote is for 2handed lolstabber.
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Most hated: Jarid and throwing lance user with a huscarl.
But I agree the pierce damage of the lolstabbers stab should be cut in half. I laugh when Im in the EU servers watching all these sword suers cosntantly walkign around in the stab position.
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Most hated: any thrower class
My class: Hybrid xbower
I hate barmaces and any kind of hammers, just cant deal with them.
But I agree the pierce damage of the lolstabbers stab should be cut in half. I laugh when Im in the EU servers watching all these sword suers cosntantly walkign around in the stab position.
I think that stab should have armor pierce bonus and lower damage than slash.
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I think that stab should have armor pierce bonus and lower damage than slash.
It is piercing.
It is.
Also, with the 2h animation you can not poke very hard, go try it yourself compared to a pole style thrust.
Sure they get more reach but should do less damage.
Most hated class?
Horse archers/throwers using crushthrough on a horse. What assholes.
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This was actually somewhat of a hard choice for me, because in the end it really comes down to how someone plays that class. I have respect for the calvary that works as a team player, I don't respect the calvary that charges in and bumps their teammates to get a kill, resulting in teammate being killed.
Archers are fine, even in steppe armor I find that most times I won't be killed by a single arrow. Most of them aren't built for speed so when you get close they will put up a fight, even if they have 1 wpf.
Horse Archers are completely different. If you are a 2h or a shielder, without throwing weapons or an xbow all you can really do if you are by yourself is try to run away because if you try and close the distance all they will do is take a few gallops and they are always out of reach.
Pure throwers are dangerous and with a shield can be plain annoying. I did a throwing hybrid build and it can be extremely BS build. With power throw 8 and only 89 wpf I was easily able to take down a charging 2h by himself with throwing knives.
Polearms are interesting when used used by infantry, whether the offensive long halfted spiked dildo, or the defensive pike. Polearm is nice because you can make some nice strength or speed builds. Anyone who has seen Noobie_ATS go on a killing spree has seen what pokes can do.
I just started my first two hand build and going from spiked dildo to longsword, it's a pretty big change. Two handers are interesting in that you have to learn to manual block. More offense than defense but easily able to be killed.
TL;DR
Hate: Horse Archers.
My build: 18/21 2h
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I LOVE throwers...
...when they are on my team.
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I'm in the least hated base... kinda xD No one hates me, I feel all fuzzy inside :mrgreen:
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What I hate : Gay Hybrid Thrower (Steel Pick + Huscarl + Jarids)
What I play : Gay Hybrid Thrower =D
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What I hate the most, with 4 options?
Ranged Cavalry
Archers
Throwers
Shielders
Yup, pretty much covers it.
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Throwers and HA.
e: I should mention my opinion has not changed through archery, 2-h and 1-h/shield builds.
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Im a cav/inf polearm hybrid.
I hate all projectiles.
Some of them even 1 shot my poor champ sarranid horse :/
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I hate x-bow-Hybrids... and huscarl throwers... and horse archers.
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I hate x-bow-Hybrids... and huscarl throwers... and horse archers.
Huscarl shields are throw-able??????
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Horse archers has always been the worst for me as i never play ranged classes or 1/shield
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Is the question what is the most hated classes? What classes I hate the most?
I hate the most riders whatever weapons they use (/I do not find them OP/disclaimer ends) because it is so annoying to be bumped (by friends or foes) and it so easy for them to do so.
From the threads I read it looks like hybrids are the ones pissing off the population.
Regarding lolstab: I think the damage should not be pierce but cut. See that the head of the sword blade is wide and not necessarily very sharp, also the blade is flat and thus flexible to some extent (as opposed to the steel pick or warhammer which have a thick round base and a thin head). Moreover, 2h swords are held with two hands (!) close from each other at the bottom of the weapon (the far side of the head), what makes thrust attacks not very stable (as opposed to the polearms grip). Swords thrust attacks would easily slide over plates and therefore seems not that good to pierce hardened armors. Ofc, I am not a specialist.
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I don't hate any dedicated classes, no matter if ranged or not. Range-Hybrids though...
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as a 2Her i have respect from good HA, all others are manageable if i dont screw up too much (small exception might be thrower close distance :))
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Question: When is a crossbow user not a hybrid?
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In most hated order
HA, HC, HT, Archer's with no melee weapon, OP lance throwers and lol stabbers. the rest I can handle (rage wise)
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Average hate towards melee classes :
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Average hate towards ranged classes :
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Maybe something needs to be done *hint* *hint*
I feel ashamed that no one hates my favorite classes :rolleyes:
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2 people y u hate swashbuclers' :(
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Maybe something needs to be done *hint* *hint*
It's just the fact that ranged is more difficult to handle than melee guys. When people lose in a duel they'll mostly blame themselves, while they'll rage when dying from projectiles, because they may not have done a mistake per se.
Ranged ain't op, it's just a lot more frustrating dying to.
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I hate everyone, you, you aaaaand you.
Well then, a bit more serious. Ranged fighters and feint spammers, so i hate only the most part of you. :P .
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This was very easy.
2H Lolstabers are the worst.
throwers the second.
HA the third.
There are no fourth :o
Edit: Looking on the poll I see most people agree with me except on the 2H. I can't wonder if that is because most do play the lolstab and don't like to nerf themself :?
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definitely throwers.
why not ranged cav?
1. ranged cav require 'some' skill
2. throwers don't
greetz, Berend
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Ranged cav because they are annoying, throwers, and hybrids.
Also any sword and boarder using a loomed side sword. Yall are worse then any lolstabber ever was
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for me melee cav take the cake, i am an 2h/xbow mostly 2h , they bother me the most because they come out of nowhere and one hit me. archers/horse archers meh they are just ranged and i can dodge them.
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my nemesis are horse archers first and throwers second.
my main is a pure twohander 21/18.
my second is a hybrid thrower 24/15. used to be archer prepatch.
my third is a sword and shield knight.
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I'm fine with throwers, but I really hate these Meele Cav guys.
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Edit: Looking on the poll I see most people agree with me except on the 2H. I can't wonder if that is because most do play the lolstab and don't like to nerf themself :?
because you can counter lolstab rather easy with decent manual blocking. i will happily give away lolstab to get rid of the polearm stun. you know, being lolstabed it's a thing... being stunlocked is worse... at least after a lolstab you can react. when you get stunlocked you just can't do nothing apart waiting to face the ground.
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It's just the fact that ranged is more difficult to handle than melee guys. When people lose in a duel they'll mostly blame themselves, while they'll rage when dying from projectiles, because they may not have done a mistake per se.
Ranged ain't op, it's just a lot more frustrating dying to.
Mmh... I think range is actually OP simply because the range factor isn't taken into account. Ranged shots have to do as much damage as melee blows and hitting must be as easy. It's silly. Melee troops are constantly fighting with situational disadvantages. It's even more unbalanced with monkey archers that will allways flee, constantly keeping their advantage without any skill involved and completly negating the so called advantage of pure melee in a "melee combat". Furthermore, an error in a duel will usually end it pretty fast. An error while shooting...
And this is only about ranged foot troops. Mounted ranged guys are just a cookie for a game design teacher, about the things that shouldn't exist in a game with strong emphasis on melee.
About 2h, I played it and consider it way easier to play than polearm. The lolstab turning + left swing faint is very easy to do and kills about everybody. Just watch Phyrex doing it, literally dispatching half a team with this move sequence. Polearms also have very cheap tricks, but the lolstab works better for me.
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what i hate is the whiner class. my main char is cav and i dont have problem with pikes or ranged stuff they r just more challenging then others.
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Nothing more frustrating as a polearm ninja than a horse archer. We ninjas are mostly executing flanking manoeuvers and are therefore on our own. A horse archer that just shoots at you while continouisly staying just out of your attack range is one of the most suckish ways to die. I'm pretty sure the testicles of these kind of players shrink with every arrow they fire. I've once spend two minutes of a round circling round a tree to make sure a horse archer didnt shoot me. Thats my best option. Its either die or keep the horse archer busy until he gets bored.
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2 people y u hate swashbuclers' :(
Bob, I was thinking about you when I voted for sword no board. You block everything and tend to get me backstabbed :'(
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Hate me, i use barmace for crushing everyone, throwing lances and plate :mrgreen: