cRPG
cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Smoketh on April 27, 2011, 07:04:30 pm
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Sorry if this has been answered already but I didn't see it in the search. Is CRPG at any point going to convert over or integrate with the new expansion? Will it just stay the way it is, 2 versions, or switch over? I will probably buy the expansion regardless because I love mount and blade and want to support the developers but having CRPG on there as well would be kiiickass.
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Dam the new warband game, it might destroy this community! If they integrate anyway or people just leave and play fire and sword
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Dam the new warband game, it might destroy this community! If they integrate anyway or people just leave and play fire and sword
I doubt it, most people prefer the medieval setting from Warband, there are over 9000 games out there involving firearms. And it's more like a mod than a new game, so until we get M&B 2 cRPG is safe :)
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I doubt it, most people prefer the medieval setting from Warband, there are over 9000 games out there involving firearms. And it's more like a mod than a new game, so until we get M&B 2 cRPG is safe :)
agreed, though only reason im waiting for wfas is army equpment feature and mods that will be developed, couse all other things we already have, though scattered trough many unfinished mods but still have it
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In my View c-RPG is safe because fire and sword is basically MM But the eastern Europe version
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hallo, i just wanted to ask/discuss about: will there be Crpg in 'mount&blade: with fire and sword' too?
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I highly doubt it. I can almost guarantee that we won't see that happen.
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i don't see why that would happen except if i missed some major improvements that would benefit crpg.
and i am not talking crappy firearms here...
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why no crpg mod for the comming F&S me thinking..
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It doesn't add much I don't think. Besides some guns (which we can already make) and slight graphical improvements (which are already available to download) I don't see a specific value in making cRPG for Fire&Sword. I may add some new players, sure, but, like, whatever.
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lol u guys dont understand...i dont want to get fire and sword into crpg. i want get crpg for coming fire and sword!
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It would split the playerbase as i doubt its goin to sell nearly as well as Warband did.
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lol when its released tomorrow i will only play F&S, this version of cRPG isnt very phun :(
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lol when its released tomorrow i will only play F&S, this version of cRPG isnt very phun :(
Okay.
The point is F&S doesn't add any gameplay, its the same game in a different box with a new multiplayer mode (captain or whatever its called) and different singleplayer campaign (lol) and guns. Guns we already have available and if we wanted them we would have them.
Honestly, if taleworlds wanted to make some real money they could make an official version of cRPG, give it some grind and a low subscription cost and they would never want for money again.
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I can't imagine chadz wants to split the playerbase on an ever progressing mod right now, especially when Fire & Sword seems like it isn't actually going to add much to the game. If most of the players suddenly stop playing and move over to F&S, he probably would, but I can't see that happening.
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honestly i bought fire and swords but only for the SP being warbands native SP got old fast. but i found out there are no crossbows.... wtf taleworlds too lazy to add guns and crossbows? thats why c-rpg cant go to fire and sword, because we would just being playing c-rpg again no difference now expect we paid for a game we didnt need, fire and sword.
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uh cmon, firearms??? honestly, saying that cRPG is like Counter Strike wouldnt be a joke anymore
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lol when its released tomorrow i will only play F&S, this version of cRPG isnt very phun :(
Bye? :|
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lol u guys dont understand...i dont want to get fire and sword into crpg. i want get crpg for coming fire and sword!
Feel free to make it, I guess.
lol when its released tomorrow i will only play F&S, this version of cRPG isnt very phun :(
Enjoy. I won't be getting it, and I doubt most people will.
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Just add guns (rifle and pistol) and throwing explosives, some armor, then You have MB F&S.
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i thought fire and sword didn't open source~ :shock:
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i thought fire and sword didn't open source~ :shock:
Best point I've seen all day.
Also:
firearms wont get included.
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lol radix and fyre didnt read the topic properly wont answer to them..
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cRPG in fire and sword?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoMgnJDXd3k
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lol he posted a link about einstein
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Don't think it's safe. People are sick of the same old stuff about crpg. I think even warband will perish.
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IMO c-RPG doesn't need Fire and Sword, and even if they did port c-RPG to F&S firearms would just give everyone another thing to wave their nerf sticks at :lol:.
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IMO c-RPG doesn't need Fire and Sword, and even if they did port c-RPG to F&S firearms would just give everyone another thing to wave their nerf sticks at :lol:.
chadz said no guns in cRPG I believe. The integration might be quite a long, lengthy, and tedious process. With Fire and Sword is a different setting to Warband to, so I believe they will stay separate. Speaking of which, *DING* Steam has finished downloading. If I am dissatisfied with With Fire and Sword, I will donate to cRPG.
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In my View c-RPG is safe because fire and sword is basically MM But the eastern Europe version
not. MM is set in the 18th/19th century. fire and sword is set in the 17th century. melee still played an very important role during that age!
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Some of the hardcoded mechanics have been changed, like using shields with bows, blocking whilst in ranged mode with firearms. And, there aren't any crossbows!
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make crpg for fire and sword.
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no no and no
p.s what is fire and sword?
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As someone who just got done playing fire and sword: no.
It's pretty obvious they rushed to market with this one. It's a bit buggy and pistols are VERY overpowered.
I guess fire and sword is a good game if you want everyone to run around with a faster loading, more powerful, more accurate crossbow. Especially those damn pistols that can reload on the move and don't slow you down.
Yeah, I'm sticking to plain 'ole cRPG.
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Can you bring spoon and bowl to crpg? :mad:
or or.. i know water and bow? =O omg
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lol radix and fyre didnt read the topic properly wont answer to them..
Your topic was "will there be c-rpg in with fire and sword"
And I replied with a quote from the main developer saying that:
firearms wont get included.
Also, agreeing with someone else's comment that:
i thought fire and sword didn't open source~ :shock:
Since you don't seem to understand how this relates to your subject, I'l explain it to you
The first point was saying, basically, that there won't be a crpg in With Fire and Sword because
firearms wont get included [in crpg]
The second point was saying, basically, that there won't be a crpg in With Fire and Sword because
i thought fire and sword didn't open source [so that means it would be impossible to create a module of this size for With Fire and Sword]
PM me if you need further help...
Oh, and on behalf of Radix,
I think his comment stating:
uh cmon, firearms??? honestly, saying that cRPG is like Counter Strike wouldnt be a joke anymore
was his way to
discuss about: will there be Crpg in 'mount&blade: with fire and sword' too
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As someone who just got done playing fire and sword: no.
It's pretty obvious they rushed to market with this one. It's a bit buggy and pistols are VERY overpowered.
I guess fire and sword is a good game if you want everyone to run around with a faster loading, more powerful, more accurate crossbow. Especially those damn pistols that can reload on the move and don't slow you down.
Yeah, I'm sticking to plain 'ole cRPG.
The pistol probably the end to non shield users.
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Played Fire & Sword for 3 hours today;
seems like it's just Warband with crappy musket-type firearms, so I don't see any reason cRPG would have anything to do with it?
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Played Fire & Sword for 3 hours today;
seems like it's just Warband with crappy musket-type firearms, so I don't see any reason cRPG would have anything to do with it.
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ALTHOUGH, I did see some good arise from this "expansion". chadz could lift the items from With Fire and Sword, like the cool hats, armours and weapons (other than muskets). Seriously.
Edit: and put them into cRPG
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Why would chadz want to remake this mod for another mod?
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Why would chadz want to remake this mod for another mod?
To further delay strat'! :mrgreen:
But seriously, he has no intention of utilizing the expansion.
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fire and sword is bad...
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I like it, it's exactly like I expected. Warband with guns. edit: And lot's of people complaining cause they are getting shot :mrgreen:
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WFAS is fairly fun for a change of pace. Played a pikeman and topped the scoreboards for a couple of rounds before it got old. It would be nice if some of the things in it could be borrowed and added to cRPG, the gloves, some of the boots and one or two chest pieces along with several of the new male hairstyles. But I doubt it'll happen :(
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I love WFAS tbh, but I also love Warband. cRPG for WFAS doesn't necessarily mean that it would die on Warband, they are fundamentally different when it comes to combat.
I'm sure if chadz doesn't make cRPG for WFAS, someone else will do something similar to it.
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I like it, it's exactly like I expected. Warband with guns. edit: And lot's of people complaining cause they are getting shot :mrgreen:
Warband with guns is cool and all, but I don't see the point in paying $15 for it when there are several mods that add guns to Warband.
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Ya I understand you're point, I haven't played MM and the other mods, but from my understanding not tooo much has changed. I wouldn't recommend purchase of the game on gameplay experience alone (if you already have warband), but I would recommend the game because:
1. It's at a reasonable price. (esp compared to expansion packs of other games)
2. I have played warband so ridiculously much and got it for 15$ that I feel almost compelled to help support the franchise of mount and blade.
3. Continuing of that point, supporting this franchise can ensure future products with this level of gameplay, and companies wont consider it a failed genre.
4. You can again get a ton of gameplay out of this game, again esp when compared to high budget 50$ games.
Warband is a fantastic game that I will continue to play, especially because of crpg, and I think WFaS has been a great addition to it.
Fanboi signing out.
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Im suprised that after all that problems with number of archers and xbowers and all that whine that cRPG turns into Counter Strike, now poeple look forward for firearms in cRPG. As I said, that would become true retro Counter Strike
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- Cav lancing seems weaker and takes more hits to kill a guy
- The two handers I tried were pretty slow
- You can even block and hit (blunt) with muskets/pistols
- Muskets/pistols take forever to load
- Muskets are almost the same as native siege xbow, maybe not so accurate but with a bit faster projectile speed and quite deadly damage
- Some chest armors and head armors look pretty good
- There's a lot of rapiers aka long espada eslavona-style one handed swords, and it seems they don't have the overhead attack, only stab. They're pretty fast too, so you actually stand a chance vs a slow 2hander
That's what I got out of it after playing for about 30 minutes multiplayer. All in all I liked it and will play more, even though it's nothing new really.
Not worth to cRPG it, it will cause even more ranged spam.
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Played Fire & Sword for 3 hours today;
seems like it's just Warband with crappy musket-type firearms, so I don't see any reason cRPG would have anything to do with it.
Don't forget that it is incredibly ugly, much uglier than Warband.
mod 1755: the Old Frontier has much better implementation of firearms than this.
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So it is not my pc setting then.......I was actually coming to crpg forum today to see feedback from the community about FaS, as I could not decide I have a problem or the graphics really looks this bad, and agree with Corwinus, warband looks way nicer, so i am really disappointed with FaS from this perspective.
I do not play MB for the graphical experience, probably noone does, but still........ FaS is really, really looking ugly even putting everything on high setting. If there would be the same purchase method, ie downloading and buying the key after level 7 if you like the game, I probably would not have bought it after I seen how it looks like.....I hope they will release some patch to improve the graphics.....
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The only things from wfas I would like to see are some of the textures for houses, walls etc. but I have no idea if it is possible to use them in warband..
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Damn. Personally I'm loving Fire & Sword. Firearms aren't overpowered imo. They are very easily dodged.
If anything, horseback archers are the biggest pain in the ass. Forever running and shooting.
I'm having a blast with this new expansion and would love to see a crpg mod developed for it.
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This is kinda sad. All these negative comments in regards to Fire and Sword is a tad upsetting. I would love to see a crpg mod created for it.
Personally I am loving the new expansion and don't find the firearms to be overpowered at all. They work pretty much the same as crossbows aside from the pistols which you can reload on the move, but they can all be dodged fairly easily.
And chopping down a gunner gives the same beautiful satisfaction as chopping down any ranged pigeon in warband.
If anything, the most annoying overpowered mechanic is an archer on horseback. Forever running and shooting with vicious accuracy. *sigh*
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Merged, because let's face it, we don't need two threads on the front page about exactly the same thing.
Anyway No_Sir, I just haven't seen or heard anything whatsoever about WFAS that sounds like a valid reason to port cRPG over. What does it actually bring to the table aside from stuff like firearms, which could easily be modded in if they were wanted in the first place?
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I personally don't see anything new in fire & sword that wasn't made already in other mods, but there are some strange things like no ability to choose your starting background and heaving skill points already spent on useless stuff... like really? they didn't let us do it? wth
Besides models of firearms and some armors I don't see what is the benefit for Crpg in it. Firearms mechanics is not that good here, I've seen better one in other mods.
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@okiN
I see where everyone is coming from, I was just throwing my two cents on the issue. Personally I view firearms in this expansion as slightly modified crossbows that go boom, so I don't have an issue with them.
Actually now that I think of it... There is one completely stupid aspect to F&S aside from the mounted archers..... bombs/grenades.... You can throw one into a group of ppl dueling and kill them while being invulnerable because you are not in combat/dueling. Definitely the most flawed mechanics ever. But also easily remedied.
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I don't know.
I think that persistant character development would be a nice feature for FireAndSword MP. It would certainly be a different game. Though I agree with the sentiment that trying to divide an already small community, isn't the best of ideas.
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So it is not my pc setting then.......I was actually coming to crpg forum today to see feedback from the community about FaS, as I could not decide I have a problem or the graphics really looks this bad, and agree with Corwinus, warband looks way nicer, so i am really disappointed with FaS from this perspective.
I do not play MB for the graphical experience, probably noone does, but still........ FaS is really, really looking ugly even putting everything on high setting. If there would be the same purchase method, ie downloading and buying the key after level 7 if you like the game, I probably would not have bought it after I seen how it looks like.....I hope they will release some patch to improve the graphics.....
There is ;) You can easily download a trial version from the website or steam
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No no, you guys are right, WFaS is terrible, don't waste 15 dollars on it. Instead save you're money so you can buy portal 2 and pre order duke nukem forever. You can get a solid 5 hours out of those game for the low low price of 50 bucks. I mean this game is completely unplayable, I have no idea how I played it and had so much fun, and the graphics! My god, the graphics! They don't even compare to Crysis! Totally not worth it. I shoulda spent my money on another MMO or CoD map pack. You KNOW those games are good cause they spend more on advertising than the actual games, which means HIGH QUALITY! Plus, if you got it you'd have to hear a bunch of retards making shit up like saying it's fun or whatever other stupid opinions they have, "lol"? Fuck that he wasn't lolin!
Don't waste money on this POS.
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Smoketh,
I was writing a longer answer but I had a computer problem so it did not save..at least you do not have to read it :) but I will not rewrite
I will just make the bottom line that I was not expecting crysis2 graphics, did not state this in my comment. I played approx 700 hours with Mount and Blade, Warband and Cprg together, so I am fine with the graphics of these and the play experience and fun it offers.
Just in my opinion it looks worse, that is it, and it is strange that it was released a year after WB and it does not have at least the same. (at least some of us it seems feel this way, maybe others do not feel any differences)
Poetrydog, I pre-purchased, so I guess the pre-download was not an option then, maybe it was a mistake from me that I bought blindly bcs of the MB brand name. I know I do not have to play with it if I do not want to, and I only lost 13 eur, not 50, which is still better.
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Yep. Just played the demo a bit, and I have to say, most of the items and animations look worse than the stuff in this or other mods. The new features (Wagenburg, lol nice idea but the AI can't deal with it) don't seem to be worth it either.
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Love the old russia atmosphere, but most of the stuff isn't really as good as it could be. I don't see any interest in making cRPG for fire and sword, even items won't really fit the era of actual cRPG, and firearms... As much as banzai charges in front of muskeets may be appealing to me, it would just turn the game more in a medieval counter-strike and, obviously, suck. That would be silly to do that just after a patch which seems to have balanced things a lot better than before.
I don't regret buying it though, it was cheap and this studio is worth supporting.
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WFAS based on the historical trilogy(only one positive value WFAS'-story in SP), written by Henryk Sienkiewicz(polish Nobel Prize laureate 1905).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_Fire_and_Sword (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_Fire_and_Sword)
This game mod was released (in Poland), almost 1.5 years ago and collected a very bad reviews on the polish scene M&B/WB (incredible amount of bugs). It is now much better / improved, maybe...
But... this is not WB 2(as it's trying to advertise/sell). That's, belatedly, chestnut steak, slightly smelly...
IMHO, mod(!) only for the blind (firearms) enthusiasts/fans.
PS.Now in beta-test-phase is a free version/mod MP WFAS, created by polish modders...
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enjoyed playing this today more than cRPG.
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Saber and double pistol in duel servers is win. Throws ppl off like crazy. And it's easy to dodge bullets in F&S
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Heard Fire and Sword sucks hard from everyone that's played it. The Looters still say " You better not be a manhunter!" There's better mods in the Warband modding community.