i suppose the 4 templol archers on at the same time didnt help :D
Find a way to decrease the amount of long spear/pike users
Just before the epic archer nerf? What a shame.
Just before the epic archer nerf? What a shame.my prophecy will come true! the sky will open and God shalt show his love! resistance is useless, even for you chadz! the real god shalt show his hand in cRPG!
Just before the epic archer nerf? What a shame.
Looks like I might be interested playing in 6 days and 1 hour and 36 minutes from now. :P
I just can't stand how they can hit through objects, how they can block with 200 length, the damage, the speed and so on.Where? Give me some of that!
Just before the epic archer nerf? What a shame.
Just before the epic 2h nerf? What a shame.
Here you go chadz,I fixed it for you.you.... boring
you.... boring
Find a way to decrease the amount of long spear/pike users (mainly the ones who use them to infantry) or make them more realistic and I assure you, I'll go back to melee. (It's always one my old friendcher less).
I don't think the long spear or pike are overpowered, not even a bit. And there is no overpopulation of these weapons either. But the remove of block from these weapons is long overdue. Not to nerf them, but because it doesn't make sense to be able to block with weapons like that and because they don't need block.This is not at all how it works. I am a longspear user and I have a very good eye for my team and mostly stick in the huge blob of my team. All it takes though is one shielder, of which we have a lot these days, and you have to block. They just walk up to you and leftswing at your face, this happens all the time because shielders hate my guts and because they happen to have a shield. You backwalk, stab at them until your teammates decide to help you out. Not being able to block would mean that you have to drop the longspear, get hit once while switching weapons, and then you have to go find your longspear on the floor again, only for this process to repeat. If this happens 3 times, you're dead, because they get a free hit everytime, even when you are actually fast enough with dropping the longspear.
Let's be honest, the pike and especially the long spear can be quite effective in large groups. Removing block from them wouldn't change that, they would still be just as effective as they were before, the players just have to pay more attention to footwork and they have to bring sideweapons if they want to survive without team support. (Which most pike/long spear users do anyway)
Where? Give me some of that!As a 7 ps, 167 wpf, MW longspear user I can assure you that my damage output is ridiculously high sometimes. I say sometimes, cause at other times it is ridiculously low. Speedbonus has too much of an effect on the weapon. I occasionally oneshot shielders in medium armour, I do stab at faces and hold a lot though. I also occasionally need 4 stabs to kill a peasant in cloth armor.
As a 7 ps, 167 wpf, MW longspear user I can assure you that my damage output is ridiculously high sometimes. I say sometimes, cause at other times it is ridiculously low. Speedbonus has too much of an effect on the weapon. I occasionally oneshot shielders in medium armour, I do stab at faces and hold a lot though. I also occasionally need 4 stabs to kill a peasant in cloth armor.
I don't think the long spear or pike are overpowered, not even a bit. And there is no overpopulation of these weapons either. But the remove of block from these weapons is long overdue. Not to nerf them, but because it doesn't make sense to be able to block with weapons like that and because they don't need block.
Let's be honest, the pike and especially the long spear can be quite effective in large groups. Removing block from them wouldn't change that, they would still be just as effective as they were before, the players just have to pay more attention to footwork and they have to bring sideweapons if they want to survive without team support. (Which most pike/long spear users do anyway)
Just before the epic archer nerf? What a shame.
Come on, Archers SUCK badly in 1v1 situations their strength lies in numbers if they are with their team they will obviously kill you because you can't block them and everyone else but if you meet a lone archer and lose then you are quite simply doing something wrong end of discussion.
For God sake get a shield if they're bothering you that much.
For God sake get a shield if they're bothering you that much.
Lol this thread is ridiculous.
Downblocking is so hard. People bitching about 1D weapon (as part of crpg whining culture i guess)
Wiltzu, srsly... i thought u were better than that.
I am dedicated pikeman, and i can say that pike (not long spear) is one of the most difficult weapon to play with in crpg. I almost ragespecced into other class several times. It's a weapon that depends solely on enemy awareness. If he's aware of pike, you can't do shit. You don't even have point-blank thrust (longspear) cause it's too long. Inexperienced user will mostly glance even with mw pike and high PS. Who the fuck says that piking is easy? I haven't seen ANY good pikeman on EU aside Backlash, others are just occasional noobs like me. Right, lot of strong long spear users, but not pikers.
For god's sake, guy became an archer cause he coudn't deal with pikers/longspear users. Who gives a fuck?
Long spear used to be called a pike mmkay newmy old friend!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
rest of this post is buff my class and weapon rant... not worth a read.
Lol, newmy old friend? In your 2011 dreams ppravi.
Pfff, where did you see "buff my weapon chadz plzzz", i am perfectly fine with pike atm. It's challenging and not easy, but totally worth it when i run my pike through ppl's face and they run screaming bitching and whining.
Lol, newmy old friend? In your 2011 dreams ppravi.dude it is soo op like 2h is
Pfff, where did you see "buff my weapon chadz plzzz", i am perfectly fine with pike atm. It's challenging and not easy, but totally worth it when i run my pike through ppl's face and they run screaming bitching and whining.
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So I respecced yesterday to an archer. Immediately I start seeing ppl raging as me and few of my clan m8s decided to go Fallen Archer Squad on eu1. Now Pygar's post is another rage post (yes, me and 2 other archers shot him while he tried to come to the hill HOWEVER he didn't use any cover, he just walked up the hill. It also took 5-6 +3 bodkins from +3 long bow to kill him =P).
Now ppl that know me know that I've been every other class than HA/Hoplite, mostly I've been melee. I enjoy melee, actually I enjoy it more than being archer, or ranged in general. I rage to archers also, but not as hard as most of you do :mrgreen:. Say what you say, shield does help. And Pygar, don't just run into the archers -.- Wait for the flags =D. You should know better =D.
Oh yeah, the weight nerf, trust me it affects. I have 3ath, I can't run away.
Now the main reason why I ragespecced to an archer is because of long spears/pikes. I get way too pissed when I encounter them. They're not impossible to defeat, sometimes not even hard. I just can't stand how they can hit through objects, how they can block with 200 length, the damage, the speed and so on. I was thinking of going 2h Mauler, but as they might introduce the new holding time thingy I decided to become archer :mrgreen:
Find a way to decrease the amount of long spear/pike users (mainly the ones who use them to infantry) or make them more realistic and I assure you, I'll go back to melee. (It's always one my old friendcher less).
1st for Teeth.
IMO if you have spear, you should always carry a side weapon if you want to block. IMO long spears/pikes shouldn't be able to block. They're a support weapon.
And now. It seems that there're a lot of people replying to my post without actually having read it (I hope they haven't read it fully, otherwise they have some serious issues).
pingpong aka JEWBANKER and Hunter_The_Honourable, where did I say that I have problems defeating long spears/pikes? "They're not impossible to defeat, sometimes not even hard." I can't see that I said they're hard to defeat. You two missed why I hate long spears/pikes, go and read again my post, actually just the underlined part, shouldn't be hard.
Hunter_The_Honourable, I assume you're NA. Come to EU1 when Gurnisson/teeth/chase(if he's long spear) are on, they'll show you what a skilled long spear/pike user can do.
Jew, for once stop leeching and try to actually survive and fight. Maybe then I'll take your sayings a little more seriously.
you guys have to quit bitching so much about change this, change that. diversity is this games strength. play the game, and quit raging. you all sound pathetic. the ranged cannot get you if you seek cover. patience.
Just before the epic archer nerf? What a shame.Legendary.
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but the point of this topic is? why not just post it on pygar's topic.
Why would anyone care about that Wiltzu :?just about to post the same.
Also when they spin like crazy and since the thrust animation for pikes are a bit longer they can just spin while they do their thrust and be able to hit you.
So you don't play the game I see, but still feel qualified to comment?
Played since 2010 and I still play ...
Also when they spin like crazy and since the thrust animation for pikes are a bit longer they can just spin while they do their thrust and be able to hit you.
Only reason I find pikers annoying is because they can thrust into the air and still land a hit on you at the very end of their swing, and still do a lot of damage. Also when they spin like crazy and since the thrust animation for pikes are a bit longer they can just spin while they do their thrust and be able to hit you.