Kite Shield is the best overall shield.
1 slot, tougher than the knightly shields, low upkeep, very fast speed.
It's the king.
Kite shield takes more hits than the knightly shields, and is a lot stronger than the elite cav shield, which is weak. It has lower resistance, but significantly more hit points. It is tougher...do the tests yourself! I already have. It also takes more axe hits.
The width advantage of the other shields is minimal imho. You just turn a little to block a hit. I've used all the shields and having just a couple points of width does nothing.
The larger round shields (large round, huscarl) have significantly more width, but they are slow.
Kite shield takes more hits than the knightly shields, and is a lot stronger than the elite cav shield, which is weak. It has lower resistance, but significantly more hit points. It is tougher...do the tests yourself! I already have. It also takes more axe hits.
The width advantage of the other shields is minimal imho. You just turn a little to block a hit. I've used all the shields and having just a couple points of width does nothing.
The larger round shields (large round, huscarl) have significantly more width, but they are slow.
So, hit points are actually more important than resistance for the durability?
So compare these 2 for example: heavy board shield and Huscarl round shield, one has more resistance, other more hit points, which one lasts longer?
same question could go for knightly shields vs kite shields, cause I hear ppl have different opinions about which is more durable.
Durability is of more importance to me cause I'm gonna play mostly DTV on this character and the enemy tend to be very punishing there.
I made a chart showing how many hits different shields will take, on average. Let me dig it up and share with the world.
Depends on Your playstyle, offensive, defensive, agi, str...
Elite Cavalry - Plate covered Round Shield - Heavy Kite are surely the best.
Imo Heavy Kite Shield is the allrounder. Good Speed, a lot of Hitpoints, awesome Style ;)
But my own favorite is the Elite Cavalry Shield.
I bet on heavy board shield. You can try it in EU3 and see I am right :wink:
if u need more experienced explanaiton, I can pm you
Heavier shields will weigh you down more, so that you move slower, but they will also give you more protection against block stun. You'll get block stunned more frequently with an Elite Cav than with a Heavy Round.
I'm going to be playing a lot of DTV with this chr,
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I'm surprised this didn't get mentioned until now. Held attacks can stun shields up to twice their weight, so while the Elite Cav/Knightly shields may be fast and somewhat durable, the speed and durability is often wasted because you spend so much time block stunned, unable to attack. I prefer shields that weigh more than 7 kg, so they can't get stunned by 2h swords/axes, only the heavy hitters like bar mace/mauls. Not to mention, heavy shields actually block crushthrough weapons sometimes; good luck ever blocking a great maul overhead with an Elite Cav shield.
IMO, you want shields that have high hit points. Especially if facing people with shield bonuses. The body armor is good, but most people have high ps and when they use a weapon with bonus against shield they tear through shields with low hp faster; no matter how high the body armor.+3 heavy board shield with 18 body armour and 653 hit points will solve that problem :wink:
This is only from my own experience, but using an unloomed knightly heater, I also never get stunned by anything other than held bar mace/maul attacks. This may have something to do with having 24ish strength, not entirely sure.
I'm surprised this didn't get mentioned until now. Held attacks can stun shields up to twice their weight, so while the Elite Cav/Knightly shields may be fast and somewhat durable, the speed and durability is often wasted because you spend so much time block stunned, unable to attack. I prefer shields that weigh more than 7 kg, so they can't get stunned by 2h swords/axes, only the heavy hitters like bar mace/mauls. Not to mention, heavy shields actually block crushthrough weapons sometimes; good luck ever blocking a great maul overhead with an Elite Cav shield.
The other big consideration that I didn't see mentioned is crossbow bolt penetration. Bolts penetrate low armor shields, and you need about 20+ shield armor to stop a +3 steel bolt from a +3 arbalest (which are pretty rare on the battlefield). I used a +3 Brown Lion Heater for several gens, and I got tired of always being headshot through the shield with only 12 armor.
So after weighing the most important considerations for me:
1. 7+ kg weight so I don't spend the whole round block stunned
2. 19+ armor so I don't get headshot by bolts through my shield
3. Width so I can block people on both sides simultaneously
4. >85 speed so I can block after being kicked or feinting lowering my shield
5. 1-slot so I can carry two stacks of heavy throwing axes
6. 400+ HPs so my shield survives more than a couple axe swings
I was left with a single option, the +3 Heavy Round Shield I have used for the last 8 or so generations.
Just tried the heavy round (typically use a huscarl) and got block stunned by throwing weps =[
This is only from my own experience, but using an unloomed knightly heater, I also never get stunned by anything other than held bar mace/maul attacks. This may have something to do with having 24ish strength, not entirely sure.
Heavy round is probably the best if you want to fully protect yourself without gimping you in any way. I prefer offensive shields with enough durability to get by. I feel as though a +3 elite cav is only as durable as an unloomed knightly heater, I would never really use an unloomed elite cav shield as my main choice.