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Beta => WSE2 Beta => Topic started by: Tigero on December 13, 2012, 02:00:01 pm

Title: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on December 13, 2012, 02:00:01 pm
When crpg launcher is finished, i get Windows ''stopped working screen''. I have tried reinstalling WB, crpg, graphics drivers, nothing helped. The very first time i ran WSE2 i got to M&B loading screen but it froze my computer up totally on ''loading textures''. Any ideas?

Windows error:

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WSE crash log:

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Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on December 21, 2012, 05:19:41 pm
Bump
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 03, 2013, 12:37:37 pm
Please i beg you to help, i have tried updating all kinds of components and reinstalling M&B, turning out AV, running as admin... what on earth could be the problem because it got to loading screen the very first time i ran WSE2?
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Spartacus on January 03, 2013, 03:04:52 pm
hop on irc and ask meow or better cmp
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 11, 2013, 08:35:48 pm
QQQ
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 14, 2013, 04:45:23 pm
QQQ
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 14, 2013, 05:03:07 pm
I know this is a long shot, but have you tried moving the launcher to your other monitor (I'm assuming you have 2 monitors)? It seems to help me, and it did a couple other people.

I think it might have something to do with the way Windows launches games based on which input the video card something something something I don't actually know what I'm talking about but I'm spewing as much as I remember from the Chairman Meow from IRC the other day.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/crpg-client-beta/(possible-fix)-wse-crashing-on-update-(with-2-monitors)/
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 14, 2013, 07:51:24 pm
Hmm well i got one monitor... Maybe ill try messing around with some settings
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Bjarky on January 14, 2013, 11:46:41 pm
check if ur antivirus program is blocking wse2, or just to be sure make your antivirus program ignor warband and crpg, sometimes the problem can be found here so its worth a try also.
otherwise go to http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=mount%26blade-crpg
login with ur nick and ask a dev there.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 15, 2013, 07:12:05 pm
Too many words 'kernel' in the error logs, did the first WSE crash corrupt something so important in my OS? D:::
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: cmp on January 15, 2013, 07:29:02 pm
That's a WSE crash log, not a WSE2 crash log.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 15, 2013, 09:24:51 pm
Whoops  :oops:

It must be this then:

[20:10:44] WSE v2.8.1 by cmpxchg8b (Build date: Jun 18 2012 20:39:27)
[20:10:44] WSE path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Mount&Blade Warband\Modules\cRPG\WSE\
[20:10:44] WSE netcode version: 6
[20:10:44] Warband version: vanilla
[20:10:44] Loaded cRPG Extras v0.5 by cmpxchg8b
[20:10:44] WARNING: WSEcRPGPluginDedicated.dll targets a different WSE build (dedicated server), skipped
[20:11:22] WARNING: Unable to map WSE script code: wse_game_saved
[20:11:22] WARNING: Unable to map WSE script code: wse_multiplayer_message_received
[20:11:22] WARNING: Unable to map WSE script code: wse_get_agent_scale
[20:11:22] WARNING: Unable to map WSE script code: wse_window_opened
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: cmp on January 15, 2013, 09:28:02 pm
No, that's WSE1 as well. WSE2 log is crpg_beta_log.txt in main Warband directory.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 15, 2013, 09:34:57 pm
That file is empty... o.O

Ps. it's 560b but notepad wont display anything :p
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 15, 2013, 09:44:59 pm
I removed one mod and now i have to manually locate mb_warband.exe to start crpg, this is strange... Maybe it's trying to run the WSE2 from some other directory and that's causing problems.... IDK gonna try reinstalling M&B again and see what that does.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 15, 2013, 10:09:12 pm
Nope, now there isn't even a ''crpg_beta_log.txt'' on the MB directory after crash D:::::
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on January 30, 2013, 07:52:14 pm
Still looking for help, regular cRPG is giving me stuttering fps in siege near crowds which is really annoying...
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tagora on February 07, 2013, 07:11:31 am
I am experiencing the same difficulty.  I cannot run WSE2 anymore (as in I used to be able to run the beta client).  Crash on startup:

Windows log:
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crpg_beta_log.txt:
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Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Elmokki on February 07, 2013, 08:37:19 am
Judging from a log after a succesful WSE2 launch, try reinstalling your GPU drivers if you already didn't. It's a long shot though.

Interestingly it doesn't even log me earlyZ shaders or whatever so theoretically I guess it could be related to your system hating some specific graphical setting you have on. You could try removing crpg_beta_config_template.ini which I guess determines various settings. I guess it'll redownload it with defaults the next time you launch if you do. Or you could just try disabling/enabling shit randomly.

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[21:56:07] Loading post effect shaders (HDR: 0, DoF: 0, FXAA: 1, PP: 1)...
[21:56:08] Loaded PostFx shaders...
[21:56:08] -- GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 *
[21:56:08]  - Memory: 1023 MB
[21:56:08]  - Driver Version: 9.18.13.697
[21:56:08]  - DirectX Driver Version: 9.18.13.697
[21:56:10] Loading settings...
[21:56:10] Loading resource test
...and so on

Also hilariously worth noting that the exception code may be a bit uninformative, it's 123456789 in decimal format. Though maybe cmp just has made it easily rememberable for himself. It's probably a custom exception though. ;(

On a more serious notion, at least you were able to post a log unlike the original poster. Cmp might have an actual clue about what's happening.

EDIT: My Google-fu also suggests that running as an adminstrator may help.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tagora on February 07, 2013, 10:16:07 am
ah well thanks for your suggestions but no luck so far.

Reinstalled drivers. Tried to reinstall wse2 by deleting the files locally.  After doing so I ran the launcher to install the beta client and crpg launcher complained and crashed.  Then I restored the old files and I'm nowhere.

I'll post here if I can figure out what's wrong.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Elmokki on February 07, 2013, 01:22:09 pm
Settings are apparently actually at C:\Users\Antti\Documents\Mount&Blade Warband\ for me (where Antti is my username) in crpg_beta_config.ini. Not really a surprise considering the other file had template in it's name. Thus you probably didn't remove the actual settings file.

Removing the file caused an error message when starting WSE2. It did generate a new one, but something was wrong with it.

Try editing the said file to contain following at it's end:
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[PostFX]
bAutoExposure=false
bDepthEffects=false
iFxaa=0
iHighDynamicRange=0 // (values: 0, 1, 2)
iPostProcess=0
...or preferably just remove any other definition of those variables and replace with that. The idea is to make a line in your log look like [21:56:07] Loading post effect shaders (HDR: 0, DoF: 0, FXAA: 1, PP: 1), or actually with all values zero to see if something related to post processing is causing the crash.


Regardless, disabling all post processing should get you a bit farther in the log at least since the [14:36:29] Loaded earlyZ shaders... step doesn't happen unless you have depth of field enabled and with the config I shared [14:36:30] Loaded PostFx shaders... shouldn't happen either. You probably crashed during the first or possibly the second of those, so well, worth trying to disable them!

Should you manage to get all the post effect shaders disabled and it still crashes, please do post the last 10 lines or so of the log if it's different!

You could also just try deleting the whole file first and if it causes a new error, restoring it and trying the other shit. The defaults it generates seem to have all post effect shaders disabled.

It'd also be interesting to know what GPU you're using.

Oh, and I can send you a .ini with the minimum possible settings if you have trouble getting the settings right. Spam my name in IRC if you want it fast(ish, it might take an hour or two for me to notice)
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: cmp on February 07, 2013, 02:24:40 pm
Quote from: Elmokki on February 07, 2013, 08:37:19 am
Also hilariously worth noting that the exception code may be a bit uninformative, it's 123456789 in decimal format. Though maybe cmp just has made it easily rememberable for himself. It's probably a custom exception though. ;(

It's the custom exception code that I use for error logging. It means it's not a crash but a WSE2 error, but for some reason the exception is being handled by Windows instead of my handler (that is supposed to display a message box with the error description).

For now try doing what Elmokki said in the previous post.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tagora on February 07, 2013, 03:36:17 pm
There were three postfx entries in that file and they appeared to be identical.  I removed them all and replaced them with the code you provided me.  It appears to have changed nothing in the log and I'm still crashing at startup.

Though, something peculiar I noticed was that the date modified on the crpg_beta_log.txt is 1/30/2013 which corresponds to the logs in the Logs folder.  The latest log entry in the Logs folder is crpg_beta_log_28.01.2013_21.09.26 (1/28/2013).  My question is, does crpg_beta_log.txt get updated so that the date modified corresponds with the last attempted launch?

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If the answer is yes then I cannot tell you if your suggestion is getting me further in the launch because log is no longer updating. 

Just to be clear here is the code before your change:
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and here is the log after your change:
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dx diag in next post if it doesnt exceed forum limit.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tagora on February 07, 2013, 03:39:45 pm
dxdiag -audio and usb devices. still overkill.  :lol::
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oh and it's a sli setup.  I already tried turning it off, alternative rendering methods, etc on a whim and nothing.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: cmp on February 07, 2013, 03:53:10 pm
Quote from: Tagora on February 07, 2013, 03:36:17 pm
There were three postfx entries in that file and they appeared to be identical.  I removed them all and replaced them with the code you provided me.  It appears to have changed nothing in the log and I'm still crashing at startup.

Try [PostFx] instead of [PostFX] (lowercase x).
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Elmokki on February 07, 2013, 04:09:34 pm
Yeah. You still have post processing on according to those logs. What I pasted is the default code  that is in my .ini before the actual overwriting definitions (bad code, cmp!) and indeed apparently the overwriting code is with small x.

Also the log file does change on my computer. Just remove the old one and see if a new one is generated. If not, it's probably because Windows hates software trying to write in certain folders such as Program Files.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tagora on February 07, 2013, 04:45:45 pm
Sorry, no changes with a lowercase x.  :(  Also no new crpg_beta_log.txt after attempting a launch.

Maybe you can send me your .ini and i'll paste that in there.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on February 07, 2013, 04:59:24 pm
I'm not getting a log file when crashing after i reinstalled M&B and cRPG...

Ps. I'm using just HD4000 (Intel iGPU)
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Elmokki on February 07, 2013, 06:09:20 pm
No log file is weird. Try installing the game somewhere else than Program Files (or any other protected folder such as Windows directory, but I guess that's obvious). You can probably just drag and drop your Mount & Blade folder even if it's a Steam installation as long as you have the launcher in the same directory (this will break shortcuts, however). It could be some retarded antivirus being retarded too. If you aren't getting updated logs, anything causing that could be the reason you have problems in the first place. I'm not sure how that would happen, but seriously, getting no logs is fucked up.

I put all the settings to minimum / disabled all special features ingame and uploaded my .ini:
http://koti.kapsi.fi/~elmokki/crpg/crpg_beta_config.ini

Remember, you don't replace the file in your Warband folder (it has different name anyway), the correct one is at C:\Users\Username\Documents\Mount&Blade Warband\ or whatever your equivalent is.

But seriously, if you aren't getting logs, try installing Warband to C: root or something and disabling all antivirus crap. If your last log is from when the game worked or something that sure is dodgy and also makes debugging any non-related error a ton harder. And seeing how neither one of you is getting new log files, I bet whatever causing that is the reason it doesn't work.


Also, Tigero, next time you visit IRC, you may want to just leave it on for more than 10 minutes. I sadly can't sit in front of computer all the time :(
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on February 07, 2013, 09:09:01 pm
I did a full uninstall, used CCleaner registry cleaner and it gave some dx and .net thingy errors so i was sort of hopeful, reinstalled on other folder and should have guessed it, it doesn't fking work. Still not creating log file, and i had the config.ini file deleted before reinstall and it didn't create a new one so i created it myself with the data you gave and nothing.

This is fucking hopeless, nothing can explain why it almost ran the first time (got to loading textures in loading screen) but then froze and never got thru getting anything visible again...

Ps. have tried disabling AV, does absolutely nothing.


Maybe the first crash corrupted something crucial? I have reinstalled my graphics drivers since then so it shouldn't be something related to that...


Also cmp said something about that this might be because Win is handling the error, could you disable this then somehow?
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on February 07, 2013, 09:51:27 pm
Could this help; Task manager shows that crpg_beta.exe freezes at 3012k memory usage, there are also many iGPU processes that got freezed memory consumption while 'crpg beta has stopped working' window is open?
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tagora on February 08, 2013, 12:07:04 am
just a quick update from me.

Tried the .ini you provided to no avail.  New install of warband and crpg and yet no luck.

Not sure what to do next.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Elmokki on February 08, 2013, 08:28:33 am
What antivirus do you use and have you tried disabling it?
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tagora on February 08, 2013, 09:05:31 am
avast and I've uninstalled it.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Elmokki on February 08, 2013, 02:06:49 pm
It's a long shot, do try turning Windows Defender off too if it's on for some reason.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tagora on February 08, 2013, 02:15:44 pm
I should have mentioned that I've done that as well.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Elmokki on February 08, 2013, 04:43:24 pm
Yeah. You, too, will have to put your hope on cmp since this error seems truly mystical.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on February 08, 2013, 08:11:34 pm
We have exactly the same problems, so there must be a reasonable explanation...
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 08, 2013, 08:15:51 pm
If I'm not already on the list, add me to it.

Spontaneously works after a couple months for no reason. Then a new update comes out, and boom. I'm out for another few months.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: cmp on February 09, 2013, 05:03:00 pm
I made some changes to error logging. Can you try running version .61?
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on February 09, 2013, 09:53:20 pm
It runs!!!!!!!  :o :o :o :o It's great! It's amazing!

ALL HAIL CMP!  :)

Thanks so much. Just for interest, where was the problem?

Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on February 09, 2013, 10:34:21 pm
Mah gawd, these freezes... 10 restarts is enough for me, no matter what setting i change it seems to end up freezing along with a horrid sound. Sometimes i can't run it because it freezes and i must restart but this happens only in fullscreen mode... :s
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on February 09, 2013, 10:43:18 pm
Seems like every time i enter fullscreen mode the game freezes after a second or few and i must restart... Strange, doesn't seem to be any certain setting but AA seems to trigger it easier.

Ps. It's not just when i _enter_ fullscreenmode but also if the game starts in it i must restart because i get total freeze. If it runs in windowed, i switch to fullscreen in menu it's ok but if i do it while in game it freezes... Also if i change pretty much any settings when playing i get a freeze...
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tagora on February 10, 2013, 03:51:59 am
Quote from: cmpxchg8b on February 09, 2013, 05:03:00 pm
I made some changes to error logging. Can you try running version .61?
Thanks, it works.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 12, 2013, 08:02:22 pm
Quote from: cmpxchg8b on February 09, 2013, 05:03:00 pm
I made some changes to error logging. Can you try running version .61?

Quote from: Dexxtaa on February 08, 2013, 08:15:51 pm
... and boom. I'm out for another few months.

Didn't work out for me. It didn't get through the updating phase again.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Bronto on February 12, 2013, 08:25:01 pm
Quote from: Dexxtaa on February 12, 2013, 08:02:22 pm
Didn't work out for me. It didn't get through the updating phase again.

What...you're actually trying to play warband?!?!? also i ride again, so prepare thine anus if i see you on!
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tigero on February 12, 2013, 09:40:21 pm
So many freezes... freezes everywhere. But when it works it's wonderful! It makes the game so much more optimized and you can run it with much higher settings than normally.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 13, 2013, 04:47:18 am
Just pasting what I put down in IRC.

(click to show/hide)
And then
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: cmp on February 13, 2013, 04:31:11 pm
Try reinstalling cRPG (repair option on launcher) without the Final Boss pack and other mods.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 13, 2013, 06:48:14 pm
Quote from: cmpxchg8b on February 13, 2013, 04:31:11 pm
Try reinstalling cRPG (repair option on launcher) without the Final Boss pack and other mods.
NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

sigh ok fine
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 14, 2013, 02:41:45 am
Tried it, didn't work. It actually crashed while repairing.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: cmp on February 14, 2013, 02:50:04 am
Uh, if the launcher crashed while repairing, how can you say that the WSE2 client doesn't work?
They are not the same program.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 14, 2013, 05:23:15 pm
WSE2 works when it does update. I guess I always took them to be one and the same, but I've had multiple downloads of the launcher, and still no dice. I'll check in again when I get back to my apt today.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 18, 2013, 05:06:34 pm
Redownloaded, works okay for now. Will keep posting in here as shit hits the fan (as it will)
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 25, 2013, 11:02:15 pm
Worked until the new patch came through for WSE2, crashes again.

Same issue:
- I click on the launcher and it starts up. "Launcher is up-to-date (0.8.10)
- I have "WSE2 Beta" and "Show Log" boxes checked (because damn it I want to WSE2)
- log reads :
(click to show/hide)

- I click  "Play cRPG" button. It does its check thing.
- log reads:
(click to show/hide)

- popup reads
(click to show/hide)

- I click "OK" button.
- Launcher reads "Updating WSE2 beta (47%)

Launcher stops working (fades white)
Popup says
(click to show/hide)


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Launcher crashes anywhere from 20%-80%
Sometimes it (probably) crashes beyond 100% so the patch goes through.
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tronde_Dornian on March 05, 2013, 08:02:49 pm
updating has been working for some WES2 patches, the last 2 I had to try lik 15-20 times, than it worked without changing something.
Now the update since yesterday hasn't been working, sometimes it counts 1-3% then jumps to 37-04% or so and the crashes. Messages like in Dexxtras post.
CRPG Patch updates without problems.
I tried antivirus and or windows defender / Firewall of, no change.
Vista 64Bit, drivers updated, had the problem with old and now new graphic card.

Edit: now after 30 tries or so it worked somehow. Didnt count to 100%, CRPG staretd, but launcher crashed as well
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on March 08, 2013, 05:40:04 pm
God damn it's Dexxtaa, not Dexxtra. Since day one, man..
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Dexxtaa on March 29, 2013, 06:43:08 pm
Dear cmp,

I'm writing to tell you that, as of 3 days ago, my cRPG launcher has (for no reason) decided to run WSE2 successfully. Please never update the launcher ever again, because I can pres butan: people die.

Regards
Dexxt
Title: Re: Still can't run WSE2
Post by: Tronde_Dornian on April 24, 2013, 09:39:39 pm
the last 2-3 WSE2 patches it worked ater 3 tries, now 24.04... it's 30 and still counting...