Are there any good 2H weapons for use on horseback so I could go mounted on maps that favor cavalry or would that be unwise?When I go mounted with my 2-char, I often use the Bardiche. 2h-cav is a bit like 1h-cav, you can get easy kills with it, when you sneak up from behind. The problem is, that you can't use many of the 2h's on horseback.
Morningstar was the best on horseback prepatch (crushthrough), it's. Still a viable weapon cos of the speed of the horse.He just abused the opness of the class in every aspect against the lowly skilled old crpg community. Going 2hander on horseback is dead.
As said Randomdude, saranid axe is pretty good on horse.
But you should ask Guard_bane, he was the first 2hander on horseback (and was damm good!), may be he can give you some tips.
Morningstar and 1hitting armored opponents from HORSEBACK? umad?
38-35%~~25pierce dmg.
Scary with such a speed (let's say speed of Morningstar is only -25%):
92-25%=69 spd rtng
He just abused the opness of the class in every aspect against the lowly skilled old crpg community. Going 2hander on horseback is dead.
Morningstar was the best on horseback prepatch (crushthrough), it's. Still a viable weapon cos of the speed of the horse.
As said Randomdude, saranid axe is pretty good on horse.
But you should ask Guard_bane, he was the first 2hander on horseback (and was damm good!), may be he can give you some tips.
2) It is a shame you will not have 4 riding and thus access to a destrier as a heavier horse is very useful when you have to get so close to an enemy. As you will with any non lance weapon.
I have class, and more to the point like to carry a capable weapon for 1v1. Balanced is important IMO. :D
Funny that. I have been repeatedly making the same 2h horse and throwing hybrid build since early crpg betas. :wink:
1) Longsword is IMO the best.
2) It is a shame you will not have 4 riding and thus access to a destrier as a heavier horse is very useful when you have to get so close to an enemy. As you will with any non lance weapon.
3) Sword and horse is support and backstabbing. Unless you get some mad skills then don't try to be "hero cav"
4) It is not that big a deal to have low proficiency, the speed bonus will make up for any reduced damage and the slower strike actually has benefits that go some way to mitigate the disadvantages. In that there is a larger window during the strike in which to ride past your target and hit him. So even if you use a shield you are not massively gimped, but do practice with and without as you will need to learn both timings!
5) Aim for heads. You have a higher position so it is not too hard and gets you double damage.
Of course I never used the morningstar. I have class, and more to the point like to carry a capable weapon for 1v1. Balanced is important IMO. :mrgreen:
I totally forgot about crush through weapons. Morningstar always hurt.
Of course you can always carry both weapons and I think morningstar + longsword will still be viable/usable after the patch.
He just abused the opness of the class in every aspect against the lowly skilled old crpg community. Going 2hander on horseback is dead.
I kinda resent this. Firstly, if you'd ever played 2hander cav, you'd know that it isn't OP, and never was. Back in the old days (not the old old days), yeah I used plate and a cataphract horse, because (if you remember) it was the time of super archers. Maybe not so much ranged as there seems to be currently, but those archers (think Ozwan or birdman, or Nocti or Replica) were ridiculously accurate. So yeah, I tanked up, to try to avoid dying to one arrow (I usually took 2-3 instead, and my horse took 3-4).Cav at the time was insanely overpowered compared to now, pre second wipe crpg was full of unaware noobs, falling by your axe. After that wipe, you started tanking up indeed. Abusing the high protection that all that armour gave you.
And I used a Sarranid Battle axe at first, but if you remember there was that enjoyable period where archers started getting plated up, so I used Morning Star for the pierce damage (if you don't 1-hit an archer you're usually dead as a shieldless cav player). I didn't use it for the crushthrough, because it's not that useful on horseback - cav has a mechanic that does what crusthrough does anyway - bumpslash.
Anyway, I wasn't the first 2hander cav - there was a Russian guy who I copied (he used sarranid battle axe). Also as Plazek says he's always been 2hand cav (though with throwing iirc) for as long as I can remember.
About the class itself, it can be very difficult to play. Its also very different to playing as lance cavalry. You won't have a shield and you're on a horse, so you become an arrow/bolt etc magnet.
Best way to play it is to stay out of sight and backstab (like all cav). However, its very hard to take on lance cav if you haven't practiced - their lance can thrust faster than you can swing, and they have the range advantage too. There are some tricks you can use against them, but it takes practice. It's best to run away from other cav (1handers will beat you with speed too, and most cav 1handers match your 2hander's range), and obviously if you see a horse archer run.
The best use for it is as a support class. Wait till both infantry sides have started fighting, and run around bumping enemies and slashing them. You won't be doing straight line hit and runs like lance cav, so get a horse with decent manuever rather than a really fast one.
As for weapons, it's mainly a matter of personal taste. I tried longsword, but I prefer the look of the Sarranid axe. All the 2handers currently usuable on horseback are good enough options, though range and speed are more important than damage since you'll get a horse speed bonus anyway. It's also a matter of practice - the more you play with one weapon the more you'll learn it's range and speed and be able to hit people effectively.
Going twohander on horseback will never be dead!