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Title: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on December 07, 2012, 09:47:54 am
SKILL NA CLAN BASED RANKING


TOP 10 PLAYERS WITH HIGHEST DUEL POINTS OF EVERY CLAN
DUEL POINTS OF THOSE PLAYERS AVERAGED
WHO IS THE BEST CLAN
THE GRAPHS DECIDE
BECAUSE GRAPHS DONT LIE

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Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Auphilia on December 07, 2012, 09:54:55 am
Duel points only really dictate who has the best 2h heroes and polearms.

In battle some clans might do much better than their performance in duel...you know...because of teamwork, that stuff that is suppose to differentiate a clan from a bunch of pub players banner stacking.

Fallen, for example, isn't getting much justice. They do really well sometimes in battle because they work together.

Anyways nice graphs ;o
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: a_bear_irl on December 07, 2012, 09:56:35 am
better posting...better duel scores, there is a clear correlation
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Vibe on December 07, 2012, 10:03:01 am
lold @ circular graph

10/10
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Havoco on December 07, 2012, 10:11:36 am
Im guessing u got an error every time u tried to put Saul canner in?
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Callan on December 07, 2012, 10:40:50 am
A bit one-sided maybe? :L

Gotta love semenstorm.... wait what?
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Kato on December 07, 2012, 12:45:06 pm
circular graph :lol:

This could be most accurate clan e-peen meter ever made, but Its flawed, because of alts. :wink:


Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: a_bear_irl on December 07, 2012, 01:19:46 pm
circular graph actually makes sense:

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in the OP it's just ordered by number instead of alphabetical so it looks odd
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: dynamike on December 07, 2012, 01:31:27 pm
GRAPH IS LIES AND SLANDER SINCE BACKSTABBING AS CAV IS NOT COUNTED

DOES NOT REPRESENT MY SKILL
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Paul on December 07, 2012, 02:06:18 pm
Make a spider (http://kevinfielder.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/spiderdiagram.jpg) diagramm with the dimensions

1. average duel points
2. average k/d(main)
3. average strat power level = strat performance + strat reliability
4. average forum power level = renown - infamy

Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Shaksie on December 07, 2012, 02:09:14 pm
More graphs required.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Vibe on December 07, 2012, 02:11:44 pm
Quote from: Paul on December 07, 2012, 02:06:18 pm
Make a spider (http://kevinfielder.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/spiderdiagram.jpg) diagramm with the dimensions

1. average duel points
2. average k/d(main)
3. average strat power level = strat performance + strat reliability
4. average forum power level = renown - infamy

this please
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: karasu on December 07, 2012, 02:21:13 pm
Skill? That's so 2010. :?
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Elindor on December 07, 2012, 06:18:08 pm
This is why we allied with Remnant in Strat....those dysfunctional nerds are good!  8-)
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Zanze on December 07, 2012, 06:24:29 pm
...damnit hoplite at dueling.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 07, 2012, 06:25:44 pm
GF
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on December 07, 2012, 07:04:31 pm
Quote from: Paul on December 07, 2012, 02:06:18 pm
Make a spider (http://kevinfielder.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/spiderdiagram.jpg) diagramm with the dimensions

1. average duel points
2. average k/d(main)
3. average strat power level = strat performance + strat reliability
4. average forum power level = renown - infamy

Make KDR visible when you visit someones char page and i'll do this tia.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on December 07, 2012, 07:04:51 pm
Considering we only have two members (including myself) who play actively, I'm happy with this.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Falka on December 07, 2012, 07:38:16 pm
Quote from: Paul on December 07, 2012, 02:06:18 pm
3. average strat power level = strat performance + strat reliability
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Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Tanken on December 07, 2012, 07:52:06 pm
I just want to point out that KUTT no longer exists. We are now known as FUK, or Former Union of Knights.


Not really though, this game is boring.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: theawesomenoob on December 07, 2012, 10:56:34 pm
Remnant should be first , they have the best players in the game IMO .. especially sentinel . Hes a top notch player .
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 07, 2012, 10:57:32 pm
In all seriousness, who is sentinel?
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Ostulor on December 07, 2012, 11:01:27 pm
Quote from: Tears of Destiny on December 07, 2012, 10:57:32 pm
In all seriousness, who is sentinel?

The one man in cRPG I aspire to be like the most and my lover.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: jasonjay543 on December 08, 2012, 03:31:22 am
Good grief, I am the worst Remnant
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on December 08, 2012, 05:29:23 am
Average KD would be a much better gauge of clan skill. How many people even actively duel, not many. Theres maybe 3 or 4 people in duel server on average.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Malaclypse on December 08, 2012, 05:35:57 am
Also, duels have no standardized build/gear load out. So, if I go up against someone while wearing a Pelt Coat + Quarterstaff while they're wearing Heraldic Trans with say, a Bar Mace, I'm putting myself at a deliberate disadvantage (out of the desire for everyone to wear that tier of gear in duels) and earning no additional reward from it should I be victorious and suffering the same amount as I would normally should I lose. Really should add incentives for lower loadouts in duel (loss of less points on loss if opponent is wearing higher tier stuff, gain of more points in the same situation).
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: To Kill A Dead Horse on December 08, 2012, 06:09:42 am
Damn throwing hybrid build
and the swiss dueling score at the moment is based off of using 2d polearms


That is if you put Swiss on the graph
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on December 08, 2012, 06:24:32 am
Oh god, I have to get my nerds-in-training to step it the fuck up.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Kelugarn on December 08, 2012, 07:11:42 am
The metric for "skill" in this instance is deeply flawed. I would like to point out that none surpass the Free Peasants' skill at: drunken goat fondling, falling down wells, planting crops in the middle of the village because you're too drunk to notice, and/or harvesting said crops. I demand that the graphs be calculated over to correct this obvious oversight.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: bilwit on December 08, 2012, 11:53:26 am
I think dueling gives you a pretty good rough estimate for individual skill -- despite most people not frequently participating enough, most of the better players do. However there really isn't one clan who can bannerstack on Battle and consistently roll it and in terms of strat battles, some of the higher ranked clans on the list have pretty laughable coordination/organization compared to some of the lower ones :?
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Knute on December 08, 2012, 05:54:52 pm
Yay, we're #2!

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Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Stormcrow on December 08, 2012, 06:20:10 pm
Duels have nothing to do with skill. These graphs just show elitist clans who have many old members who can loom crutch during duels.

They all die easily in strat when they cant armor crutch
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Florent48 on December 08, 2012, 06:26:37 pm
Quote from: Knute on December 08, 2012, 05:54:52 pm
Yay, we're #2!

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From the other side :S
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on December 08, 2012, 06:40:39 pm
Quote from: Stormcrow on December 08, 2012, 06:20:10 pm
Duels have nothing to do with skill. These graphs just show elitist clans who have many old members who can loom crutch during duels.

They all die easily in strat when they cant armor crutch

Aren't you from NH?

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1596
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1620

You sure did well against the clan who is top of this ranking.

p.s
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Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Tanken on December 08, 2012, 06:49:21 pm
Quote from: idle on December 08, 2012, 06:40:39 pm
Aren't you from NH?

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1596
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1620

You sure did well against the clan who is top of this ranking.

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Ooooo sick burn.

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Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on December 08, 2012, 06:50:50 pm
Quote from: Tank Burner on December 08, 2012, 06:49:21 pm
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Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Jarlek on December 08, 2012, 07:01:17 pm
Why, that's some nice KD Mr. totally not a bad player!

EDIT: You want some cheese with that whine, jtobias?
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Stormcrow on December 08, 2012, 09:50:28 pm
nice, what about the last 4 battles you've lost? please post all results or none at all.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Vodner on December 08, 2012, 11:31:59 pm
Quote
Duels have nothing to do with skill. These graphs just show elitist clans who have many old members who can loom crutch during duels.
I usually do pretty well in duel, and I don't have any looms. I'm sure there are a ton of players in the same boat.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Goretooth on December 09, 2012, 01:37:34 am
I don't duel or play on battle server anymore and just fight in strat battles.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: raccoonlord on December 09, 2012, 02:02:56 am
I disagree with Semenstorm being #1 since most of them are 2h and horse-xbow

JUST SAYING
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Artyem on December 09, 2012, 02:08:23 am
Considering I only play duel to fuck around with settings and to mess around before a strat battle, I'd say that's not bad at all.  Besides, it's really just Applesauce and I who play there anyway :lol:
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Uumdi on December 09, 2012, 09:00:34 am
dumb gay shit cuz i use duel server to practice long dagger fighting during low level archer gens.


balls to this nonsense
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Duster on December 09, 2012, 09:18:08 am
ITT:

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Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Uumdi on December 09, 2012, 09:19:46 am
gg  :oops:

Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Pentecost on December 09, 2012, 10:40:27 am
Quote from: Vodner on December 08, 2012, 11:31:59 pm
I usually do pretty well in duel, and I don't have any looms. I'm sure there are a ton of players in the same boat.

I wouldn't say tons, but there are a few others on NA I think.

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Those two blackrose guys at the top there are pro native duelists with no heirlooms like you, right? Because when they get serious, they start pulling off what looks like macrofeints except executed manually in the same way that you do.

What I find more amusing is that not a single person at the top of the rankings on the NA side is a dedicated 1h player. In fact, the only ones who I've seen using 1hs with any kind of frequency at all are you, Luk, and (at least recently) Rohypnol. Everyone else on the list there is either 2h or pole.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Kaoklai on December 09, 2012, 11:07:01 am
I remember some 1h no shield player named something like Muunokhoi being #1 on duel ladder a while ago before he disappeared  8-).  Of course the specific rankings don't actually mean much once you're on the board, and even before that. 
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: BaleOhay on December 09, 2012, 04:23:53 pm
I think I got as high as third as a 1 hander. Even at the time I was a shielder just not using it. I am willing to bet if I do a full 1 hand dueler build I could get back up to a decently high spot on the ladder using my iberian.

the longer weapons have a lot of advantages in dueling but 1 hand is not terrible, tho I miss being able to turn quickly on overheads.. I still think that hurt short weapons the most.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Bronto on December 09, 2012, 07:47:49 pm
Lol I don't think any of FIDLGB  go on duel server to flex our e-peens. If we're on duel server then there must be a strat battle. nice graphs though......I guess. Saul Canner wins,he beats all clans.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: San on December 09, 2012, 07:52:39 pm
Quote from: Pentecost on December 09, 2012, 10:40:27 am
I wouldn't say tons, but there are a few others on NA I think.

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Those two blackrose guys at the top there are pro native duelists with no heirlooms like you, right? Because when they get serious, they start pulling off what looks like macrofeints except executed manually in the same way that you do.

What I find more amusing is that not a single person at the top of the rankings on the NA side is a dedicated 1h player. In fact, the only ones who I've seen using 1hs with any kind of frequency at all are you, Luk, and (at least recently) Rohypnol. Everyone else on the list there is either 2h or pole.

I was, but I was goofing off this past week (goedendag with shield, etc). There were quite a few other 1hs on there, too.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Blackzilla on December 09, 2012, 07:52:40 pm
Quote from: raccoonlord on December 09, 2012, 02:02:56 am
I disagree with Semenstorm being #1 since most of them are 2h and horse-xbow

JUST SAYING
I challenge you to a duel with 1h swords! no shields! I must defend sememstorms honor and epeen!
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Dexxtaa on December 09, 2012, 09:48:18 pm
Quote from: Brontosauce on December 09, 2012, 07:47:49 pm
Lol I don't think any of FIDLGB  go on duel server to flex our e-peens. If we're on duel server then there must be a strat battle. nice graphs though......I guess. Saul Canner wins,he beats all clans.

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Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Bronto on December 09, 2012, 10:10:32 pm
^LOL don't make me go cav again and focus only on you dex :) I don't want to respec again!
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Dexxtaa on December 09, 2012, 11:10:37 pm
Quote from: Brontosauce on December 09, 2012, 10:10:32 pm
^LOL don't make me go cav again and focus only on you dex :) I don't want to respec again!

Man. That was mental warfare, when you were chasing me down. Every time I'd log on: "Is Bronto here? No? Ah, yes. No incessant rider chasing me around the damn field today."
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: IR_Kuoin on December 10, 2012, 11:07:05 pm
Circular graphs will be the next hot thing in 2013.
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: BaleOhay on December 11, 2012, 02:15:11 am
what movie is that in your sig Kuoin
Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 11, 2012, 02:16:06 am
Quote from: BaleOhay on December 11, 2012, 02:15:11 am
what movie is that in your sig Kuoin


Dark Souls 2

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Title: Re: SKILL BASED NA CLAN RANKING
Post by: IR_Kuoin on December 11, 2012, 12:15:51 pm
Just show how epic the Dark Souls 2 announcement trailer was when everyone think its a movie