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Title: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Tibe on December 03, 2012, 07:32:51 pm
Just purely curious. Id ask from other forums, but this is the only one I really come to, since im not some massive dork who writes in 100 forums daily. And Google was only partially helpful.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Belatu on December 03, 2012, 07:41:28 pm
screaming and getting angry (expressing the inner violence)
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Tennenoth on December 03, 2012, 07:41:39 pm
By avoiding it.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Christo on December 03, 2012, 07:43:24 pm
It's like any other resistance-type "training", like alcohol, cold, or whatever resistance we are talking about.

The only real way in my opinion to endure these things better, is to expose yourself to them systematically.

Why are you interested in this by the way? Just curious.

I see, you are curious as well. I should read the whole OP next time.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Tibe on December 03, 2012, 07:54:57 pm
Okay okay, I want to be better at enduring pain, cause I got in the Fight club. (Woops)

I get the systematic part. But some have said, that it might acctually backfire. That systematical pain resistance training might acctually make you less endurant to it.

And Tenne, sometimes thats just not possible. Thou that is good advice, I give you that.

And out of curiosity, what would be the best way to expose myself to it, without ending up in the hospitalo?
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Tigero on December 03, 2012, 08:02:39 pm
Same like you build tolerance to everything, good or evil.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Tennenoth on December 03, 2012, 08:06:10 pm
Okay okay, I want to be better at enduring pain, cause I got in the Fight club. (Woops)

I get the systematic part. But some have said, that it might acctually backfire. That systematical pain resistance training might acctually make you less endurant to it.

And Tenne, sometimes thats just not possible. Thou that is good advice, I give you that.

And out of curiosity, what would be the best way to expose myself to it, without ending up in the hospitalo?

I was merely joking, I know it's not always possible but from my understanding, the brain does a lot to stop pain in itself, but it only really works for major injuries. Speaking from personal experience, when I was knocked down, I felt no pain what-so-ever, apparently this is because the brain, want of a better explanation, just says "You need to sort this out before you start thinking about pain" and blocks the synapses from receiving the pain signals. I'm not brain scientist of course, but there was a programme on recently that went through how our bodies deal with pain.

That's extreme pain, but I would assume that if you're looking for minor injuries, such as being hit, no broken bones, maybe broken skin, I would assume you want to do something like what Christo said, although that seems very masochistic. :S I don't think you want to start getting someone to hit you, but I think it has a lot to do with mind over matter, sure you might be bleeding, but is it really that bad? It'll heal so why not just strap it up and get on with it. Then again it would depend on the situation, if you stub your toe at home, you have more options than you would if you were mid bar fight.
Also, from what I understand, we have more nerves in our hands, feet, mouth and neck/jaw area so I would avoid having those places hurt over your chest for example.

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 - The image a friend brought me while I was in my hospital bed.

Anyway, I'm out of my knowledge zone, all I know is that pain is bad and that if I really cared about what was happening, I would just force myself to think about other things than the pain.

Edit: I state that I don't like pain, hence my original comment. I still stick to that method.

I would also add a "risk vs reward" factor, yes, I'm hurt, but if I fight through it, what do I get? Adrenaline would be another factor and a major one for me personally is certainly a "will I let anyone else down", so if people are relying on me, the feeling of shame having stopped I suppose.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: LordBerenger on December 03, 2012, 08:23:14 pm
Just tell urself that i won't let some stupid thing called pain get in the way for what i want a.ka not giving a fuck.

Fuck pain get insane or sum shit.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Torost on December 04, 2012, 01:09:06 am
There are different kinds of pain. That vary in form. Short/long/intense/slow caused by a variety of things.
Heat/Cold/electric/blunt trauma ... and so on..

It is often bound up in non-nevrological issues.

Exposure to it regulary will familiarize you to how your body and mind react to it. Reducing the "shock".
But depending on how able you are to cope with it, regular exposure might trigger fear and panicreactions. that can be worse than the real pain. Heard of electricians that had to change jobs, since they build up this immense fear of getting a jolt.

Only real tolerance I know from first hand experience is to deal with is cold.
It was mostly mental, telling your mind not to react, just observe that it is really cold and do as normal. Helps to know how the body reacts.

I have partially lost this ability due to not experiencing it in a long time. Buildt up an insulating layer of fat instead :)

Pain is healthy, it tells you when you are doing something wrong. Or about to overdo things.

You might find this interresting
 "A Life Without Pain - A Congenital Disease Caused By A Newly Discovered Mutation"
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/42140.php (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/42140.php)
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Kafein on December 04, 2012, 01:28:08 pm
The easiest way to exercise "mind over body" is against cold and hunger, from my experience.

The easiest way to deal with pain that you can't stop (such as stomach "burning" I don't know the actual english word) is to somehow distract yourself from it. Watching TV, playing videogames etc. are excellent ways to do that. The most effective way to deal with the eventuality of that kind of pain is to learn how to ignore it without distractions, but that's much harder.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Vibe on December 04, 2012, 01:29:12 pm
by being a real man
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Gurnisson on December 04, 2012, 01:33:17 pm
Watching Vibe's old signature gif
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Vibe on December 04, 2012, 01:34:05 pm
Watching Vibe's old signature gif

for reference
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Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on December 04, 2012, 01:34:08 pm
But some icecubes in your pants, then wait for your "dong" to get icy cold. No pain will be stronger than in your lower section, thus your lower body is pain free.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Molly on December 04, 2012, 03:25:30 pm
"Aaah, my foot hurts really bad!" :(
*stomps on the other foot*
...
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Rumblood on December 05, 2012, 12:41:12 am
There is a difference between feeling less pain, and having tolerance for that pain.

Feeling less pain: You can go about this in a couple ways. One is to either destroy the nerve endings in the area in which you are wishing to increase your tolerance aka Iron Hand/Shirt technique through constant abuse, or you can increase your bodies production of endorphins by prolonged stress and pain from continuous exercise. That effect will be a temporary one, however, so you have to have time to prepare before you are ready to subject yourself to the pain you wish to tolerate.
If you want a quicker method, I suggest that you keep a hive of bees or yellow jackets around and allow one to sting you (bees hurt less btw). It will also release those endorphins.

Tolerance for pain: That is different and is simply mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter  :P Best to master this before applying the insect sting method of feeling less pain  :o

Link to an article on bee stings providing pain relief:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-130982/Insects-creepy-crawlies-friends.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-130982/Insects-creepy-crawlies-friends.html)

Quote
Arthritis:
There is a growing amount of anecdotal evidence that bee stings may help relieve the pain of arthritis.

Jane Tadman, spokeswoman for the Arthritis Research Campaign, says 'Some sufferers find that it does help. The most famous case is a Hertfordshire bee-keeper who stings himself regularly to get rid of the pain.'

Arthritis sufferers choosing this unique treatment usually place bees on the site of the pain - hands, knees and other joints - and wait to be stung.

Experts believe that the stings stimulate the body to produce a hormone called cortisol. Cortisol is an anti-inflammatory hormone which may explain the relief that sufferers feel after being stung.

Another theory is that the body releases endorphins after being stung, which are the body's natural painkillers.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 05, 2012, 12:48:37 am
If you got a headache listen to load music, if you got a stomach ache do sit-ups, if the wast majority of your body was hurt in a none-extremely bad way just tear your nails into it until all you really feel is just an odd itch where you're currently feeling pain, regularly hold onto hot metalic objects like radiators for several minutes, regularly hold your little finger under a tiny ray of hot water for several minutes while slowly making the water hotter, regularly smash your head into various objects, eventually you won't really feel any pain you can't quickly start ignoring and stop feeling it, of course all these various things would require being able to ignore pain (while still feeling it) already.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on December 05, 2012, 09:54:32 am
If in pain, masturbate.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Prpavi on December 05, 2012, 11:34:02 am
get a tattoo on chest/shoulder/inner arm area and youll see what youre made of  :mrgreen:

I believe were born with certain level of tollerance for pain and uncomfort and it varies from person to person, not sure if you can actually "build it" but you can get more used to it or maybe work on mental stamina but if you are over sensitive from the start dont think much can be done, maybe join a Shaolin monk temple, they got some nice techniques  :wink: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 05, 2012, 11:57:41 am
get a tattoo on chest/shoulder/inner arm area and youll see what youre made of  :mrgreen:


Pussyshit.

If you want to train yourself to endure pain, do this: visitors can't see pics , please register or login


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Any pain you will feel after that is nothing.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Kafein on December 05, 2012, 12:02:48 pm
Pussyshit.

If you want to train yourself to endure pain, do this: visitors can't see pics , please register or login


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Any pain you will feel after that is nothing.

That's nothing compared to the pain of burning white small shell sand under your feet.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 05, 2012, 12:05:29 pm
Yeah, I forgot that.Burning sand or asphalt is definately part of the holy trinity of pain.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Molly on December 05, 2012, 07:23:58 pm
get a tattoo on chest/shoulder/inner arm area and youll see what youre made of  :mrgreen:

I believe were born with certain level of tollerance for pain and uncomfort and it varies from person to person, not sure if you can actually "build it" but you can get more used to it or maybe work on mental stamina but if you are over sensitive from the start dont think much can be done, maybe join a Shaolin monk temple, they got some nice techniques  :wink: :mrgreen:
Funny that you mention inner arm area tattoo :P

Done December 3rd, pic taken after a shower like 30 min ago and before putting creme back on it  :wink:

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Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 05, 2012, 08:19:16 pm
I dont really think that area hurts that much at all.Sure, it hurts, but the pain isnt too bad.The Pain I experience when stubbing my toe on furniture surpasses it by a lot.

btw. it´s a nice tat ;)

Would it be too much to ask if you could maybe take a picture of the one on your chest or something?Because I wanted to do a chest-tattoo since a long time now, but Iam still looking for Inspiration(And no, ofc i woudnt copy it).
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Molly on December 05, 2012, 08:24:20 pm
I dont really think that area hurts that much at all.Sure, it hurts, but the pain isnt too bad.The Pain I experience when stubbing my toe on furniture surpasses it by a lot.
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Lol... Are you serious? If you really believe that a stubbed toe hurts more than that tattoo... well, my advise: Stay away from any Tattoo-Studio  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Christo on December 05, 2012, 08:41:09 pm
Stubbed Toe feels very bad because it happens quickly, and unexpected, at least I can't tell anybody who does it on purpose.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Molly on December 05, 2012, 10:00:48 pm
Stubbed Toe feels very bad because it happens quickly, and unexpected, at least I can't tell anybody who does it on purpose.
Two different categories of pain ofc but still... on a normalized scale "stubbed toe" is on a pretty low rank  :wink:
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Berserkadin on December 05, 2012, 11:06:15 pm
You build a resistance, especielly a mental one. Try some hardcore workout during a longer period, your body hurts like hell but you keep on going and going and going and presh your treshold further and further. Eventuelly you learn to push trough the pain, to a point of embracing it.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Rumblood on December 06, 2012, 01:13:48 am
That's nothing compared to the pain of burning white small shell sand under your feet.

Must not have kids and their little toy pieces scattered around  :lol:
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Prpavi on December 06, 2012, 01:26:52 am
Funny that you mention inner arm area tattoo :P

Done December 3rd, pic taken after a shower like 30 min ago and before putting creme back on it  :wink:

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Nice man, plus i know what it means, really cool

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this is my inner arm after shading session, took pics every day same time for a week. The second day it my arm was double the size.

the thing about tattos is how sensitive your skin is and where the tattoo is done and how, i have loooots of shading and the same wounds had to be worked on again and again and thats whats killing me.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on December 06, 2012, 07:57:56 am
Work in a restaurant and lift weights. Works for me.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Tennenoth on December 06, 2012, 08:56:59 am
Nice man, plus i know what it means, really cool

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this is my inner arm after shading session, took pics every day same time for a week. The second day it my arm was double the size.

the thing about tattos is how sensitive your skin is and where the tattoo is done and how, i have loooots of shading and the same wounds had to be worked on again and again and thats whats killing me.

Don't brush your teeth often?  :rolleyes:

I'm a girly-man and not a fan of tattoo's but I wanted to make the comment about the tooth brush too much to care!

My "Tattoo" It still won't look like a normal scar, bad lighting is due to the fish tank:
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On that point as well, I can feel nothing on the left hand side of my knee from where the scar is. After asking a doctor about why it is only the left hand side, apparently the nerve network runs from left to right, so where they cut through to the ligaments, they cut the nerves off on the left hand side. Weirdly, now that I am gaining some feeling back, no matter where on the left hand side of my knee something touches, I feel it right down the scar. That's an odd sensation and I must say that it hurts like buggery, probably the worst pain I've ever felt, when I kneel on a hard surface, soft surface, like a bed, pillow or padded seat, all well and good, otherwise, seering pain right down the scar.

So, the nerve network is quite a large factor I suppose, if, as someone says, you break it, you feel less, but I don't recommend doing it since after a year or so, it hurts worse than before. On another note, I suppose once again it depends on the thing that is inflicting the pain, pressure sets my knee off while if I knocked it on something, I feel nothing, sustained I suppose.
Also, on the note of the "lego brick to the sole", according to that programme I watched, your chin/tongue/mouth, hands (particularly fingertips & palm) and the feet (particularly the sole) all have the largest network of "sensitivity", so I would assume that pain to those, although probably not life-threatening, is more severe since they're areas that the body uses practically all the time.

Still against pain, avoid it at all costs! Run away or something! ;)
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Prpavi on December 06, 2012, 09:24:09 am
Oh snap Tenne how did you get that scar? looksquite painfull.

p.s. I do was my teeth lol my shelf is tilted a bit so the brush always finishes in the same position.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Molly on December 06, 2012, 10:38:00 am
Oh snap Tenne how did you get that scar? looksquite painfull.

p.s. I do was my teeth lol my shelf is tilted a bit so the brush always finishes in the same position.
Tilted board? Now that is an excuse that is very creative - props for that, Prips :D
Tho it's nearly as weird as Tenne even noticing x)

And yea, that scar looks pretty nasty, how long is this OP behind you? The scar-tissue looks weirdly strong and built-up... I've seen some scars over the years I worked as Rescue Assistant and your knee looks... odd  :P

Nervepains are prolly the worst that can happen to someone. Not necessarily by the intensity of pain but cuz there aren't any "good" ways to treat those. I would go mad over those.
I can handle flesh wounds, even breaking stuff but I go nuts when I have strong headaches... bleeding things, I can rest those comfortable, I can treat the wound but headaches? They are just there and I can't do really something about the pain.

At the end every living being experiences pain differently. Most people just keep going with headaches and shrug the shoulders - personally, headaches can render me completely useless (yes, even more useless as I am w/o them  :?)
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Prpavi on December 06, 2012, 11:04:39 am
Tilted board? Now that is an excuse that is very creative - props for that, Prips :D
Tho it's nearly as weird as Tenne even noticing x)




haha well i tried, you got me, i wash my teeth only on holidays like christmas and easter. soon ill be taking a 2nd shower this year also woooo christmas time kicks ass!

oh yeah i also haz headaches, more neck aikes my neck is fucked up from hockey (2 dislocated dunno their names, little thingies your spine is made of), so is my shoulder and my tail bone (cant sit in one position for a longer periods)

yeeeey for sports !
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on December 06, 2012, 11:28:15 am
Remember when I played hockey and me and my friend managed to trap NuuK in the goal and stated poking him with our hockey sticks :P
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Teeth on December 06, 2012, 11:38:43 am
Having a sadistic older brother when growing up.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Dezilagel on December 06, 2012, 11:54:18 am
Having a sadistic older sister when growing up.

fix'd
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Kafein on December 06, 2012, 03:55:39 pm
I'm a sadistic younger brother myself.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 06, 2012, 08:04:52 pm
Lol... Are you serious? If you really believe that a stubbed toe hurts more than that tattoo... well, my advise: Stay away from any Tattoo-Studio  :mrgreen:

I already have a tattoo in that exact location, so I do know what Im talking about.

and on a normalized scale stubbed toe is a very high rank for me, sure, the pain is gone relatively fast, but it hurts like a motherfucker.Yo ucan trust me that iam not bullshitting you when I say I have gone through shitloads of pain in my young life already most other people dont go through even if they live to be 80 or more, and I have a big library of different kinds of pain, of which, in intensity, stubbing my little toe on furniture(hard)is at least a 7-8.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Tennenoth on December 06, 2012, 09:24:33 pm
Oh snap Tenne how did you get that scar? looksquite painfull.

p.s. I do was my teeth lol my shelf is tilted a bit so the brush always finishes in the same position.

Tilted board? Now that is an excuse that is very creative - props for that, Prips :D
Tho it's nearly as weird as Tenne even noticing x)

And yea, that scar looks pretty nasty, how long is this OP behind you? The scar-tissue looks weirdly strong and built-up... I've seen some scars over the years I worked as Rescue Assistant and your knee looks... odd  :P

Nervepains are prolly the worst that can happen to someone. Not necessarily by the intensity of pain but cuz there aren't any "good" ways to treat those. I would go mad over those.
I can handle flesh wounds, even breaking stuff but I go nuts when I have strong headaches... bleeding things, I can rest those comfortable, I can treat the wound but headaches? They are just there and I can't do really something about the pain.

At the end every living being experiences pain differently. Most people just keep going with headaches and shrug the shoulders - personally, headaches can render me completely useless (yes, even more useless as I am w/o them  :?)

Hahaha, I have to agree, a creative excuse! I would have said that it was someone else in the house or something along those lines. Anyway, I only noticed it since the only thing, other than the rough location of the picture, that changed was the arm and the tooth brush jumped out at me.

As for the scar, it's from when I became road kill, I tore one of my cruciate ligaments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruciate_ligament) and the surgeons cut me up and pinned it all back together with 6 screws. I have a couple of smaller scars on my left shoulder where they put metal rods to keep my shoulder together, sadly my body rejected those and they came back through the skin and I had "Wolverine shoulder spikes" for a time being, that was an odd sensation. Anyway, the picture was taken about 6 months ago while the whole incident is coming up to two years ago. (21st January 2011 is when it all happened). I'll point out again that it wasn't my fault I was hit, I crossed on a green pedestrian light and she drove straight through, hence why if I join the Byzantium teamspeak channels I am the butt of many a "well spoken car joke"! ;)
I'm not sure why the scar-tissue is like that but it hasn't changed since the picture was taken, it doesn't make a difference to me though!
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 06, 2012, 09:49:51 pm
Still against pain, avoid it at all costs! Run away or something! ;)
I knew I shouldn't have believed it when people said you didn't run away! my old friendcher!
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Rumblood on December 07, 2012, 04:28:25 am
Having a sadistic older brother when growing up.

When I was 12, I used to take my 4 younger brothers and sisters (11, 9, 8, and 6), force them into the middle of a sheet and tie them up like a kerchief. Then roll the (loose) knot into the middle of a 2nd sheet and tie that one, repeat with the 3rd sheet, and a blanket, so that the knots were on opposite sides. Then tell them to get out. I did tell them not to panic or they would use up all of the air. I cured them of claustrophobia (well maybe they didn't have it, but they sure didn't have it after that *lesson*)
When they tried to rebel as a group, I would stack them all on top of each other with the oldest on the bottom and sit on them until they agreed to cooperate against the last one to agree  :twisted:

At least I wasn't as bad as an older cousin who taught me to swim by taking me out into water over my head on a raft, dumping me off and taking the raft to shore and telling me to learn to swim RIGHT NOW or drown  :lol:
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: isatis on December 07, 2012, 05:19:55 am
Best way : work as a swimming teacher for children...
You know, the moment when the parents are asking you what have you done last night... and you just say nothing... but you should have cut your children's nails last night...
those children... I do not want to drown them!! why do they have to pierce my poor skin each time???
anyway... now I can do my whole lesson with children biting, cutting and scratching me :D


Or, my personnal favorite (you might get a little bit crazy just warning) :

first : you dissociate yourself in two entities.
second : you start to feel only with one part of you and the second is to think
third : you place the pain in the other part (sensing part)
fourth : you use the thinking part
fifth : profit!

this work rather well with cold, hot (it's with hot that I discovered that... working as a lifeguard on hot summer is cool!) and annoying people!
It's an escape basically!
only problem is that you'll start to be two at the same time. You'll be rather lunatic and the reality will start to be distorted...

If you manage it well you'll be ok! Some people will think you take drugs, but you won't need those thing!



Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 07, 2012, 11:02:17 am
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Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Kafein on December 07, 2012, 01:34:14 pm
Also, you can greatly improve your management of pain by thinking of it as a strength, taking energy from it rather than trying to ignore it.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Molly on December 07, 2012, 03:12:19 pm
Also, you can greatly improve your management of pain by thinking of it as a strength, taking energy from it rather than trying to ignore it.
Becoming all esoteric and shit now? ^^
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Kafein on December 07, 2012, 03:48:17 pm
Becoming all esoteric and shit now? ^^

Not quite, not at all actually. It's just a mind trick. "energy" is but a simple word that can take complex and hardly sensical meanings, but doesn't have to.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: Tibe on December 07, 2012, 04:19:53 pm
Dr. Carrot Tops words are filled with wisdom.
Title: Re: How does one build tolerance for pain?
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 08, 2012, 01:42:06 pm
The Worst pain one can have is pain of the nerves, like tenne described.I had baaaaaaaadddddd herpes zoster once, and you wouldnt believe the pain I had when it was half-healed and i started to scratch some.Seriously, I never cry because of pain, but at that time a few tears erupted from my eyes anyway.I also still dont feel anything in the areas of skin that were affected by the zoster the worst...