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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: CaveSquirrel on November 24, 2012, 09:57:15 pm

Title: Change the new polearms.
Post by: CaveSquirrel on November 24, 2012, 09:57:15 pm
Suggestion for adding/changing the new polearms.

As most of you probably know, the new polearms aren't really used at the moment.

Perhaps they would be used more if they are changed in different ways, for example when you make them shorter (having a lenght of 150 or something like that left)

-usable with shield
-sideswingable.

There are probably more ways to get them useful.
Title: Re: Change the new polearms.
Post by: Pentecost on November 24, 2012, 10:21:28 pm
The main reasons you don't see a lot of people using them at the moment are:

1.) The lack of readily available Masterworked ones. It is currently much easier to acquire one of the many, many +3 Awlpikes/Long Awlpikes already on the market than a +3 Ranseur.
2.) They are two-directional. Two-directional polearms were already less than popular as far as weapons go, and the turn speed change had a greater impact on them than weapons that actually have side swings.

Neither of these reasons has much to do with the weapons themselves, which are actually pretty decent as long as you're good with two-directional polearms. They don't need to have side swings or be able to be used with a shield, although there are some people think the Partisan should be reviewed a second time because they feel that the high damage cut thrust doesn't make up for the fact that cut is bad against high armor targets and that it can't rear horses.
Title: Re: Change the new polearms.
Post by: CaveSquirrel on November 24, 2012, 10:51:05 pm
I believe you didn't understand it right,

I mean there should be shorter versions of them which are usable with shields and perhaps sideswingable then.
Title: Re: Change the new polearms.
Post by: no_rules_just_play on November 26, 2012, 12:08:16 pm
you might wanna check out their scores, they are all the same except for there upper swing (long awlpike not)
check the scores and than look at the long awlpike.

ranseur
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corseque
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spetum
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long awlpike
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partisan
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Title: Re: Change the new polearms.
Post by: LordRichrich on November 26, 2012, 12:41:28 pm
Heavier is better. And they're all just slight variants of the long awlpike, pointless. Make patrisan slower and give it side swings, it'll be useful
Title: Re: Change the new polearms.
Post by: Lange on November 26, 2012, 02:25:39 pm
Polearm needs a general buff and reworking to be comparable to 2H.
Title: Re: Change the new polearms.
Post by: Torben on November 26, 2012, 02:44:38 pm
it  would probably help to buff the heavy lance and give back full lancing angle...
Title: Re: Change the new polearms.
Post by: kono yaro! on November 26, 2012, 06:18:34 pm
it  would probably help to buff the heavy lance and give back full lancing angle...

while were at it lets give bar mace crushthrough again
Title: Re: Change the new polearms.
Post by: Spa_geh_tea on November 26, 2012, 06:21:15 pm
Long awlpike and croseque are comparble and need not be changed. But I do agree the others are redudant or useless other than their visual appearance. Making them shorter might be difficult, but giving them more swing options and reducing their damage as to make them an upgrade to the would be nice.
Title: Re: Change the new polearms.
Post by: Torben on November 26, 2012, 06:30:31 pm
while were at it lets give bar mace crushthrough again

dont forget morning star