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Title: Stats on the 2h weapons with shield?
Post by: San on November 21, 2012, 11:31:34 pm: I would just like to know. Thanks a bunch.
Title: Re: Stats on the 2h weapons with shield?
Post by: Bjord on November 21, 2012, 11:48:17 pm: 20% penalty on everything I think.

Also, someone told me you only have 100 effective wpf with longsword in 1h mode.
Title: Re: Stats on the 2h weapons with shield?
Post by: Jarlek on November 22, 2012, 01:09:52 am: Quote from: Bjord on November 21, 2012, 11:48:17 pm
20% penalty on everything I think.

Also, someone told me you only have 100 effective wpf with longsword in 1h mode.
The effective wpf part is bs, but the percentage penalty should be correct. Can't remember the exact number, so 20% is probably correct. I'm very certain it is not a lesser penalty at least.

You basically hit and swing too slow to be effective with it, and the damage nerf makes it even worse.
Title: Re: Stats on the 2h weapons with shield?
Post by: Pentecost on November 22, 2012, 01:10:34 am: From the Game Mechanic Megathread:
Quote from: Elmokki on January 07, 2012, 01:05:12 am
- If you use polearm with a shield or from horseback, you get -27.75% damage penalty
- If you use twohander with a shield or from horesback, you get -23.5% damage penalty if that twohander can be used with a shield (ie has onehander animations). If not, the penalty is -15%.
- Both cases above also have some sort of a speed penalty.

The exact value isn't listed, but I've heard that the mentioned speed penalty is equal in magnitude to the damage penalty, which is to say -23.5% speed for a 2h being used with a shield.

I've also been told by Smoothrich that the polearm with shield penalty was removed or reworked in the last patch (http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-balance-discussion/new-two-handed-thrusting-swords-estoc/msg650682/#msg650682), although I would like if someone else in a position of authority weighed in on whether this is actually the case or not. My own testing of it seems to indicate the polearm with shield penalty is the same as before.
Title: Re: Stats on the 2h weapons with shield?
Post by: San on November 22, 2012, 04:49:12 am: Thanks guys. On damage, I feel that it's a pretty good possibility for hoplites having less of a penalty for damage, but that was really over TS/my own experiences.
Title: Re: Stats on the 2h weapons with shield?
Post by: Baillin on December 05, 2012, 08:41:38 am: Quote from: Bjord on November 21, 2012, 11:48:17 pm
20% penalty on everything I think.

Also, someone told me you only have 100 effective wpf with longsword in 1h mode.

So while using a 2her in 1her mode what wpf do you need?
Title: Re: Stats on the 2h weapons with shield?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 05, 2012, 08:44:42 am: Quote from: Baillin on December 05, 2012, 08:41:38 am

So while using a 2her in 1her mode what wpf do you need?

1 handed, 80% positive on that.