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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: CrazyCracka420 on November 20, 2012, 06:05:59 pm

Title: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 20, 2012, 06:05:59 pm
The large battles typically start out okay but after about 15 to 30 minutes of fighting, it's hard to even swing my weapon.  It seems like half the time I left click nothing happens, and certainly not as soon as I hear the block sound and want to swing immediately. 

I believe the server hardware is just not adequate to be running 100+ people in the environments we're playing on (especially with all the equipment and dead bodies on the ground on top of the rag doll effects and keeping track of everything each player is doing).

Can you open up a general pay pal fund that we can contribute to (make it anonymous only) so that we can get some better hardware for NA3 to run on? 

I currently have great internet (5mbps upload, 50mpbs download) and a computer that's less than a year old, I typically get 200-250 fps when I play on NA1 and there's 100+ people, and can run 2 or 3 graphic intensive games at the same time without any issues.  So if I'm having problems, then I gotta imagine (and I already know) that everyone is having the problems.  I couldn't imagine what it must be like for people who only have an average of 100 fps or lower when they play in NA1, it must be unplayable in some of the big strat battles.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Bjarky on November 20, 2012, 06:31:47 pm
Yeh its due to all the stuff laying around on the ground after a while, the server just can't handle all that properly, also EU_3 starts lagging after a while when the items multiply.
I suggest that there should be an item cap or an shorter timer for items etc. to vanish, that would help alot, even for high-end servers and players hardware.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on November 20, 2012, 07:10:35 pm
Keep seeing these posts without a response. I will gladly donate if I knew it was going to improve the strat playability
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Mae. on November 24, 2012, 08:01:44 pm
Keep seeing these posts without a response. I will gladly donate if I knew it was going to improve the strat playability
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on November 24, 2012, 09:57:51 pm
same problem again last night. plays fine. I was doing well..... then goes to crap and I wish I was an archer or horseman because melee is near unplayable
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Butan on November 24, 2012, 11:32:29 pm
I too feel some delay in swinging my weapons sometimes on the EU3 during strategus battles, not too much but its enough to ruin some of the fun.


I suggest that there should be an item cap or an shorter timer for items etc. to vanish, that would help alot, even for high-end servers and players hardware.


It would be the death of looting weapons and storing them in the weapon rack (or would need a fast and efficient looting squad) but in my mind, if items on the ground are the culprit for lags, then its more important to reduce it with ideas like yours.

Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 30, 2012, 04:33:06 pm
The red headed bastard step child known as Strategus is outside freezing in the cold, that's him knocking on the door now, will you let him in for some warmth?
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: The_Slim on December 01, 2012, 03:07:46 am
Devs give us a sign!  I'm ready to donate, these strat battles could be so much more.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on December 05, 2012, 12:15:39 am
Had my first strat battle using the new WSE thing... Same mess.

I start off doing great.. the server is smooth.. lasts for about 20 mins.. Then it starts getting slower.. by 35 mins it is like fighting in pudding. being a 1 hander is shitty.


I was against the server move to Dallas... At this point if it would give consistant play even at 75 ping, I am all for it
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: a_bear_irl on December 05, 2012, 11:15:13 am
i'm all for a move to dallas, imo better all around because west coast will drop below 70, east coast stays below 70, and the only people who will experience a jump of more than like 20-30 are guys up in the ass end of canada/alaskans, compare to now where everyone on the west coast is above 70 with some poor bastards at like 90+

as far as actual server lag goes, yeah, i definitely notice the strat server start to shit the bed after the battle's been going for a little while, regular NA battle doesn't have the issue.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 05, 2012, 05:09:19 pm
Yup. I'm Happy i went shielder. The lag is so bad, but shields make everything better.

Laggy POS NA3. I even get the lag when there's a lot of duels. I think it's tied into the amount of items and bodies on the ground. Perhaps a limit of 50 bodies, and 150 items.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 05, 2012, 05:13:48 pm
It's gotta be because of all the items and dead bodies.  Even shielder isn't that great, as soon as I hear the "block" sound I try to swing and I have to left click 2 or 3 times before it registers that I'm trying to swing.  My favorite is ghost swinging myself: I don't realize I'm swinging until my weapon hits the enemy.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 05, 2012, 05:20:01 pm
It's gotta be because of all the items and dead bodies.  Even shielder isn't that great, as soon as I hear the "block" sound I try to swing and I have to left click 2 or 3 times before it registers that I'm trying to swing.  My favorite is ghost swinging myself: I don't realize I'm swinging until my weapon hits the enemy.

OH even better, Had this happen last night. You(or enemy) swing with a weapon and...well they aren't holding the weapon but it's there alright. Or your weapon disappearing. POS server.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on December 05, 2012, 07:25:53 pm
Shield is a help when it works. i think the long reach pole arm is a huge benefit when things go to hell
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Bronto on December 07, 2012, 01:32:36 am
Happened to me doing a shoot out with an archer. No animation at all as I was lining up my shot then suddenly arrow appears and animation begins with him reaching for another one!
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on December 21, 2012, 01:52:44 am
strat server getting worse. Devs hate americans
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: MrShine on December 21, 2012, 02:34:43 am
yup that was an ugly strat battle hero party vs bird clan.  Started bad ended awful.   Poor server performance definitely takes the fun out of it.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Pejlaen on December 21, 2012, 10:14:45 am
I was going to fight in a battle on NA, and about 1 minute after the battle had begun I lost connection to the server. Rejoined and it worked for 5 minutes when I got dced again. Tried about 10 more times but it kept happening. Most probably my own pc problem, but has anyone else experienced this?
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Visconti on December 21, 2012, 11:09:05 am
I was going to fight in a battle on NA, and about 1 minute after the battle had begun I lost connection to the server. Rejoined and it worked for 5 minutes when I got dced again. Tried about 10 more times but it kept happening. Most probably my own pc problem, but has anyone else experienced this?

Iv had that problem when i was trying to play in an EU strat battle, no idea why
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on December 21, 2012, 02:02:21 pm
pretty sure devs get coal from santa this year due to their cruel NA 3 server
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 21, 2012, 02:46:28 pm
I was going to fight in a battle on NA, and about 1 minute after the battle had begun I lost connection to the server. Rejoined and it worked for 5 minutes when I got dced again. Tried about 10 more times but it kept happening. Most probably my own pc problem, but has anyone else experienced this?

That's happened to me before one other time (in strat 3) and was on the EU server.  I figured it was cuz I went afk like 10 minutes and got temp banned so when I tried rejoining it would kick me from the server.

If that wasn't the case, then I probably just need to restart c-rpg (not just reconnect to the server)
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: partyboy on December 22, 2012, 12:27:10 am
I kept wondering why I was missing people the other night (other than the fact I'm bad) then I shot someone who was standing still, hit them, and a second later they died.  Started leading people a little more after that.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on December 22, 2012, 05:16:03 am
all I want for Xmas is a server that works
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 23, 2012, 08:11:50 am
Yeah the lagg sucks.

It also sucks when u rejoin and bam, your kills dissappear but ur deaths remain. Dat respawn.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 24, 2012, 04:51:43 pm
Can we buy a new server for chadzmas?  We've been good little boys and girls all year long!
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Kirbyy on December 25, 2012, 09:03:13 am
Ahhh yes, I must put an input if I am to spam threads... Now I do have to say that simply because of this server lag, my performance K/D ratio has gone up! Do not mess with the server location! lol, no this really does need to be fixed and I think that the first thousand of offers to buy a new server from the community should have given the hint.  But, after an eternity the request is now being served!

A ho ho ho to all of you! Kirby's alter ego, SANTAKirby has finally escaped SEXYKirby's basement and is now on the loose in the forums!  Moderators will be searching but it is now officially christmas in central time zone, so I resolve to say that my promise is now intact, all of you that have posted before me have gotten atleast a +1, so I'm on to other threads to spread random +1's!  A good day everyone!
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on January 11, 2013, 01:03:47 pm
Na 3 still blows... the new op sys does not help in large battles.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 11, 2013, 05:12:31 pm
Na 3 still blows... the new op sys does not help in large battles.

Not for me. I'm having no problems.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 11, 2013, 08:10:02 pm
It didn't seem nearly as bad as before (IMO). 
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 11, 2013, 10:31:24 pm
While the server is not perfect, especially for very large sieges with many ladders, idle horses, siege equip, etc, it's pretty fucking good. It's got absolutely no performance issues for me in field battles for 1.5k v 1.5k with full rosters. I'm damned pleased with the new setup they gave us.

Now we just need to get a committee of qualified spergs to decide on an objectively superior map-list and have someone with FTP access upload them, or however warband servers work.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 12, 2013, 12:53:25 am
I'm having trouble telling if the server is lagging or not anymore because I'm cavalry and cavalry has glitches up the ass and most of them feel like the effects of severe lag.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on January 12, 2013, 03:34:59 am
I know I am lagging like mad still and losing frames now in animations.

What settings are you guys using that are not having trouble? if you do not mind sharing. Maybe I have something on or set to high causing my issues. I am using the beta client.. maybe I should not be?
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: The_Slim on January 12, 2013, 03:49:38 am
New server is running great, no lag.  Bale try without the beta, I had some problems using it in battles, but it may have just been my PC not sure.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on January 12, 2013, 04:09:25 am
thanks slim the next one i will def try it.

Anyone using the beta get no lag? Just curious?
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 12, 2013, 04:15:56 am
thanks slim the next one i will def try it.

Anyone using the beta get no lag? Just curious?

None that I notice. Games run smooth now. New server is beast.
I run decent to high WSE settings. SO It's not mah settings.

I just believe the server got a general upgrade. I'm sure it did, but I'm to lazy to search for the post from meow about it.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on January 12, 2013, 04:30:48 am
server is the same. They just changed the op sys to win server 2008.

if you get time post screenies of what settings you are using. I have a good machine and strong internet but no luck at smooth playing
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 12, 2013, 06:53:39 am
server is the same. They just changed the op sys to win server 2008.

if you get time post screenies of what settings you are using. I have a good machine and strong internet but no luck at smooth playing

sure. I'll try and remember.

Here's a Post from a tech help that i had.
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Don't know If i changed things, but I'm sure it's about that.
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on January 12, 2013, 04:21:56 pm
thank you. I will give them a shot and see if anything helps. Appreciate you taking the time.


Ohay
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 12, 2013, 05:46:47 pm
The only thing that changed from before the server changed OS's to now (on my side) is that my FPS was hard coded to 120 versus the normal 250 I have it at.  That may have been part of the difference.

I'll take a screenshot of my settings here shortly and edit this post with them (probably within an hour or two)
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: BaleOhay on January 15, 2013, 12:18:26 am
lies!!! an hour or two... I see your plan do not let poor bale play on a smooth connection to keep him down!
Title: Re: Strat battles - fighting in syrup (on NA3 at least)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 15, 2013, 03:27:59 pm
lies!!! an hour or two... I see your plan do not let poor bale play on a smooth connection to keep him down!

Whoops I have a terrible memory  :mad:  My bad