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Title: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 01:44:43 am
I want official answer from legitimate admins about this new rule enforced on siege that you cannot attack thru door/gates, this include spears,throwing weapons,arrows,crossbow and all kind of weaponry.

This used to be a legit tactic as defender for several years in siege and now all suddenly new badmins administration are all butt hurt about the fact of seeing peoples using this legit tactic to defend castle when everyone know on siege that defense is slightly at a disadvantage and you gotta use all strategies possible to help you win.

Even clan KUTT was exclusively using this strategy including admins to defend castle at all cost.

So what is the official word on this freaking joke?
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Meow on November 17, 2012, 01:46:54 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 01:49:08 am
OK meow i dont see it on that list so does that mean we can do it?
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Malaclypse on November 17, 2012, 01:52:45 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/

Interesting. Tavern Keeper does the siege shield to reach otherwise unreachable places all the time and has never been punished by an admin on so I figured it was okay.

Doors that have holes through them (through which projectiles can fly) should be "legal" to use for ranged and melee, but abusing the game in order to stab through a completely solid door or even a gate (with a winch) is pretty bogus/asshatty.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 01:54:03 am
Peoples use it all the time, even clan that have admins have used this strategy intensively. But my greater concern is the fact that ITS NOT an official rule. Cause admin scilla started spewing her own ruling yesterday night on siege and throwing bans left and right to enforce something that is not stated as an official rule.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Meow on November 17, 2012, 02:03:11 am
Agreed but should be fixed by game mechanics if possible.
For the siege shield dude, post ban requests and he will be removed.
Also I am pretty sure not all admins are aware of the rule updates.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 02:08:55 am
Okay well i would love admin scilla to come here and give her version of all that shit now.

And yes i know scilla i went off on you and was impolite toward you, i am not here to discuss my ban i received.

And i would also love to hear from Para Kutt that perfectly know his clan are intensively exploiting this mechanic.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Meow on November 17, 2012, 02:13:54 am
Question is what you expect from this.
If you wanna be unbanned you go to the unban section, if you just want clarification, I'll try to get it fixed next patch so it's just impossible.

Not a big fan of drama threads if they come from banned people.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 02:17:03 am
No i dont want to be unbanned cause my ban time is probably over already. I want official answer from corrupted admins how do they feel protecting their own clan exploiting tactic to win on siege, while the official opposition on the server get banned for using this strategy.

I want to bring the light to everyone playing on siege how corrupted the administration on this server is.
And if we did not deserve to be banned for doing it like everyone else i want public apology and acknowledgement of an admin mistake from Scilla. And if she does so i will apologize to her also for my language toward her.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: TugBoat on November 17, 2012, 02:21:16 am
We only have one admin in KUTT and I seriously doubt he'd banned for piking through gates or over walls. We do that all of the time and to my knowledge and everyone else's it's not against the rules. Who punished you for it?
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 02:22:54 am
If you read the thread, Scilla did. And yes i am aware Para always seen this tactic as a legit defensive maneuver.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Meow on November 17, 2012, 02:26:25 am
No i dont want to be unbanned cause my ban time is probably over already. I want official answer from corrupted admins how do they feel protecting their own clan exploiting tactic to win on siege, while the official opposition on the server get banned for using this strategy.

I want to bring the light to everyone playing on siege how corrupted the administration on this server is.
And if we did not deserve to be banned for doing it like everyone else i want public apology and acknowledgement of an admin mistake from Scilla. And if she does so i will apologize to her also for my language toward her.

Exactly the kind of drama I am talking about.
Trust me being an admin is no fun since you always got people bitching at you, making mistakes is normal and having people like you call you out on it making it a huge thing like administration corruption is pretty much expected.

Nothing will change until the glitch is fixed, rules make this a grey area for players and admins.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 02:31:41 am
Ok then , scilla can come here and say she made a mistake by banning me and Drdemento.

And i hope some sort of higher power in the cRPG community will tell her to stop PMS'ing over bugs to try to get some attention on the server.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Meow on November 17, 2012, 02:36:26 am
Or she could come here and tell you that she always enforces this.
Honestly, don't expect any apology or change until it is changed if that is possible.
Drama as usual.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 02:37:34 am
And on a side note no wonder why the siege server is dying and less and less peoples are playing on it. With admin like her, enforcing stuff that everyone been doing for years just to get some attention. Unless this become an official and clear rule on the list, my team wont stop from doing it.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Muki on November 17, 2012, 02:37:50 am
Abusing the pike by attacking through a solid door.
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something like this attacking through doors?
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 17, 2012, 02:41:01 am
I think he means through the OTHER doors. The ones with the holes in them that people poke and shoot through.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Meow on November 17, 2012, 02:42:52 am
And on a side note no wonder why the siege server is dying and less and less peoples are playing on it. With admin like her, enforcing stuff that everyone been doing for years just to get some attention. Unless this become an official and clear rule on the list, my team wont stop from doing it.

You realize this mainly sounds like you are butthurt and want that admin to be removed, right?

It's cool if your team keeps doing it as long as they can live with being banned for it without making posts like this.
Starting to wonder who wants to get some attention here.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 02:52:19 am
Both of them solid and the gate with holes actually.

So meow now you acknowledge that admin just use their power as they see fit. Or maybe we should all join KUTT clan im sure Para would protect us well.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 17, 2012, 02:55:42 am
the gate door with holes: Legit for all reasons.

The solid doors, though grey area, it shouldn't be abused. It's just not right to be done. It's just like loads of other glitches that have been seen on the servers. Abusing them is not wrong, but it makes everyone look at you wrong and no one supports you if it is done.

Just stick to attacking through the Gate with holes since they are MADE for that.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Meow on November 17, 2012, 03:03:39 am
Both of them solid and the gate with holes actually.

So meow now you acknowledge that admin just use their power as they see fit. Or maybe we should all join KUTT clan im sure Para would protect us well.

What do you mean now?
Told you I won't get into NA admin stuff on irc.
Also told you it's a grey area but technically it's exploiting.
I rather find it problematic that other admins think it's cool to do it.
Needs to be fixed to improve gameplay.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Nightingale on November 17, 2012, 06:03:54 am
I want official answer from legitimate admins about this new rule enforced on siege that you cannot attack thru door/gates, this include spears,throwing weapons,arrows,crossbow and all kind of weaponry.

Even clan KUTT was exclusively using this strategy including admins to defend castle at all cost.


I said solid doors when I warned DrDemento the first time, I even said It was just a warning and politely asked you guys to stop.

They generally are piking through doors with grids in them, However I'll keep a look out on them and everyone else poking/slashing/punching through "Solid" doors.

Both of them solid and the gate with holes actually.

So meow now you acknowledge that admin just use their power as they see fit. Or maybe we should all join KUTT clan im sure Para would protect us well.

No just Solid doors, Doors with a grids are fine.

Join any clan you want, Regardless of admins being in the clan. The rules stay the same.

something like this attacking through doors?

Yes.

Ok then , scilla can come here and say she made a mistake by banning me and Drdemento.

Yes, I am truly sorry you refused to cooperate with my simple request and was forced to ban you for 12 hours after you blatantly disregarded everything I said and didn't heed any of my multiple warnings.

I am obviously after attention because I posted in the general discussion forum about a 12 hour ban.

Peoples use it all the time, even clan that have admins have used this strategy intensively. But my greater concern is the fact that ITS NOT an official rule. Cause admin scilla started spewing her own ruling yesterday night on siege and throwing bans left and right to enforce something that is not stated as an official rule.

Not everything is on that list, spewing my own ruling? This thread seems like you are just fabricating complaints and stretching the truth.

Okay well i would love admin scilla to come here and give her version of all that shit now.

And yes i know scilla i went off on you and was impolite toward you, i am not here to discuss my ban i received.

And i would also love to hear from Para Kutt that perfectly know his clan are intensively exploiting this mechanic.

My version, I simply asked you to stop slashing with your claymore or any other weapon through solid doors, No one was even in any sort of trouble. You refused and argued about how I was corrupt for 30 mins, being as polite as I could to you people after multiple warnings and then you blatantly stand in front of me and continue to do the very thing I asked you nicely not to do...

As for the rules here is a link that meow already gave you http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/

 
- Hitting through solid doors is an "asshat" move.

Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 07:21:57 am
Ok then how come Para Kutt and other admins been promoting that kind moves? And never any other admins in the game even warned anyone and even did that strategy themself?
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Para on November 17, 2012, 07:49:56 am
Ok then how come Para Kutt and other admins been promoting that kind moves? And never any other admins in the game even warned anyone and even did that strategy themself?
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I ALWAYS warn people that they will be dealt with if they attack through solid doors, I'm sure other people can attest to that. I've never once "promoted" or advocated such a thing. Grated doors on the other hand, are fair game to stab through with a pike.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 17, 2012, 08:21:48 am
Really Para ? You were on the server when Drdemento was slashing peoples thru doors you didnt say one single word. That kind of hypocrite, all the time i saw you admining you saw tons of peoples doing it and never you warned anyone and this include peoples from your own clan.

So i guess now this sudden change of reaction is to cover everyone ass?
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: bilwit on November 17, 2012, 08:25:59 am
Clearly the solution to all of siege's problems is to free spook. #hediedforus
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on November 17, 2012, 09:24:55 am
How long has Desire been and admin?!

But, yeah, poking through a solid door is just douchey.
I remember when them crafty Craftys would poke straight through walls.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Muki on November 17, 2012, 09:27:04 am
How long has Desire been and admin?!

But, yeah, poking through a solid door is just douchey.
I remember when them crafty Craftys would poke straight through walls.


mmm lets see since Nov 8?
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Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Smoothrich on November 17, 2012, 01:35:40 pm
Piking through solid walls is basically exploiting as far as I can tell.  Maybe you should've listened to the admin warning you instead of shit talking them, persisting to do it, then crying like a child when you inevitably got banned for disrupting the server with your shenanigans. 
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Digglez on November 17, 2012, 09:07:17 pm
http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/

doesnt say anything about hitting thru doors in there.  hitting thru doors is a limitation/bug with the engine, just like hitslashing, gunna ban people for that too?

With changes to weapon collision most of the hitting thru solid doors went away, but people like Spook & RoberNamo used to milk it all the time, admins pretty much agreed it was fine and so prevalent it was unenforceable.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Kuujis on November 17, 2012, 09:10:49 pm
doesnt say anything about hitting thru doors in there.  hitting thru doors is a limitation/bug with the engine, just like hitslashing, gunna ban people for that too?

With changes to weapon collision most of the hitting thru solid doors went away, but people like Spook & RoberNamo used to milk it all the time, admins pretty much agreed it was fine and so prevalent it was unenforceable.
I think this part of rules is JUST FOR YOU:
"If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished."

Also - for the record - I've been slashing through solid doors for a month or so, after I learned it is possible by getting whacked multiple times myself :rolleyes: As an outcome of this discussion it is obvious, that this behavior, which I considered a norm, is more towards asshatery and I shall stop.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Digglez on November 17, 2012, 09:13:10 pm
I think this part of rules is JUST FOR YOU:
"If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished."

Write it on the list then, instead of being lazy and letting people do it for over a year without ever enforcing it
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: dreadnok on November 17, 2012, 09:56:57 pm
If defenders were breaking down their own doors attackers could do it too!!!!
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Kryser on November 18, 2012, 01:47:16 am
I have seen Para_Kutt and his alts warn people for poking through solid doors, and explain to them in pink admin chat that doors "with holes" are ok. Thus using his common sense and good admin'ing abilities. If I play on EU_2, I will get hilt slashed through solid doors, every single fucking door i approach.

Will I be banned for Punches through doors?

Why the fuck is a 14 year old girl admin on NA? Desire.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: TurmoilTom on November 18, 2012, 01:50:35 am
Why the fuck is a 14 year old girl admin on NA? Desire.

Because she's more trustworthy and reliable to fulfill admin duties than the majority of dudes who play this game.

Take a good, long look at this community and try to tell me otherwise.

Quick Edit: Also, I thought she was 15, but that's not important :P
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Arathian on November 18, 2012, 01:57:49 am
Why the fuck is a 14 year old girl admin on NA? Desire.

Desire is 14?

Noice.


Anyway, personally as a mauler (primary target for said pikers) I agree that solid doors is a bit...eh, mainly due to me not seeing when the stab will come.

But if I had to choose between door stabbing being disabled on all doors or keep as is, I say keep as is.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Smoothrich on November 18, 2012, 02:02:16 am
I have seen Para_Kutt and his alts warn people for poking through solid doors, and explain to them in pink admin chat that doors "with holes" are ok. Thus using his common sense and good admin'ing abilities. If I play on EU_2, I will get hilt slashed through solid doors, every single fucking door i approach.

Will I be banned for Punches through doors?

Why the fuck is a 14 year old girl admin on NA? Desire.

This is what Desire did.  She warned in admin chat to stop piking through solid doors.  They proceeded to shit talk her for over an hour, disrupting the server, and blatantly ignored her warnings.  Everyone was happy to see them banned for the night.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Jarlek on November 18, 2012, 03:30:58 am
1. Get warned by admin not to do something.
2. Continue doing it anyway.
3. OMFG I got banned!
4. Write thread with badly hidden "admin iz aboozer!" message.
5. ???
6. Profit!
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 18, 2012, 04:44:06 am
Why the fuck is a 14 year old girl admin on NA? Desire.


Because Desire lives in NA and not EU, hence being on NA.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: SixThumbs on November 18, 2012, 06:31:05 am
I've never witness anyone getting warned or banned for this (although I haven't played siege in a while) but a couple months back someone with a pike in one of those little broken towers in battle was swinging around the corner getting kills so maybe a little clarification would be nice. Although it is incredibly lame I think it should be either allowed and made common knowledge or fixed as not to have some players seeing it as a gamble hoping an admin isn't online on an alt.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 18, 2012, 07:04:22 am
That all im asking, if this is illegal then add it to the list and make it clear. A lot of admins are covering their ass big time here they saw their friends and clanmates exploits tons of BS and they never said a single word.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Kuujis on November 18, 2012, 10:31:11 am
That all im asking, if this is illegal then add it to the list and make it clear. A lot of admins are covering their ass big time here they saw their friends and clanmates exploits tons of BS and they never said a single word.

Butthurt 9/10 :) (10/10 if you would rage with "bad words, which kids should not read" :shock: )

I'm not sure which admin wrote, that "one does not become a real admin until he gets an abooze thread on forums" :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 18, 2012, 11:59:24 am
LOL i am far from being hutt hurt about the whole situation i am just bringing to the light how admins deal with situation on NA Siege, 90% of them dont do their job and approve those actions while 10% of them that come once a month and see something and get all butt hurt about what going on and try to enforce rules that everyone wasnt aware of for over 2years.

I got banned on purpose to have this whole thing happen, so at least admins would stop being so lazy and update the siege rules, and to all the admin pretending they were condoning those action please let me laugh at your face so hard (Para Kutt) never in all the years i played on siege and this is including my bro and all my clan mates that was playing almost every night on siege never any admins said anything about hitting peoples thru the doors, so stop trying to cover your ass for doing a bad job, and admit you thought it was a legit tactic. And just make it clear from now on that its illegal.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Bronto on November 18, 2012, 01:12:21 pm
LOL i am being butt hurt about the whole situation. i am just all butt hurt.

There fixed it for you.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Xeen on November 18, 2012, 01:28:03 pm
LOL i am far from being hutt hurt about the whole situation i am just bringing to the light how admins deal with situation on NA Siege, 90% of them dont do their job and approve those actions while 10% of them that come once a month and see something and get all butt hurt about what going on and try to enforce rules that everyone wasnt aware of for over 2years.

I got banned on purpose to have this whole thing happen, so at least admins would stop being so lazy and update the siege rules, and to all the admin pretending they were condoning those action please let me laugh at your face so hard (Para Kutt) never in all the years i played on siege and this is including my bro and all my clan mates that was playing almost every night on siege never any admins said anything about hitting peoples thru the doors, so stop trying to cover your ass for doing a bad job, and admit you thought it was a legit tactic. And just make it clear from now on that its illegal.

That is because we didn't have admins in siege until relatively recently.  Para definitely, 100% for sure, knew about and enforced that really commonsense rule from day 1.  Sometimes I wonder if you are actually retarded in real life.  Why do you have access to a computer?  I'm confused :(
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Digglez on November 18, 2012, 09:59:37 pm
That is because we didn't have admins in siege until relatively recently.  Para definitely, 100% for sure, knew about and enforced that really commonsense rule from day 1.  Sometimes I wonder if you are actually retarded in real life.  Why do you have access to a computer?  I'm confused :(

sorry but I recall seeing KUTT use pikes thru doors on multiple occasions after you had admins.  Shouldnt throw stones in glass siege castle
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Digglez on November 18, 2012, 10:03:44 pm
and while you admins are reading this, DEFINE UNREACHABLE.  Tavern keeper and several others are well known for bringing siege shields to get a 3ft boost up to areas you'd normally not be able to reach.  Including gate controls on certain maps, which means you are unable to use the controls while someone is standing on top of them....and have to bring a maul to kill a 13 shield skill alt to kill them and be able to use gate controls

if this is against the rules, clarify it and WRITE IT THERE,  instead of making shit up and interpreting rules on the fly
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 19, 2012, 12:20:45 am
Xeen i hope it make you sound intelligent calling other retards over the internet for bringing an important point, and you obviously trying very hard to protect your clan leader.

And as digglez mentioned Kutt is known to be massive pikes exploiter on siege just saying.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Herr_Thomas on November 19, 2012, 12:30:33 am
and you obviously trying very hard to protect your clan leader.

Oh man, that is just priceless.

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Edit: On topic; When it comes to stabbing through doors it is very simple.

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This has been my Understanding for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Jarlek on November 19, 2012, 03:40:03 am
A quick rule of thumb. If you could have stabbed/slashed through/over/between it in RL, you can be 100% sure you can do it in this game.

If you could NOT have stabbed/shlashed through/over/between it in RL, it can go both ways.

If an admin says you are NOT allowed to do something: listen to them. if you belive they are wrong, still do what they say. Don't start discussing ingame. Don't ignore what they say. Come to the forums for that discussion.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Bronto on November 19, 2012, 02:23:35 pm
Also, the mechanic even worse than the door stab, because it really doesn't happen too much with solid doors, is the stab over a wall. i know you've all seen this where a pike user stabs at the sky and brings the stab downward so it magically gets you on the next side of the wall even if the wall is taller than your character.

The guy above me is 100% correct and shall be +1'd as soon as i hit post.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Xeen on November 19, 2012, 04:15:44 pm
Oh, I forgot this was the crpg community.  It was assured that someone was going to accuse us of something I've literally never seen happen.  I've never once piked through a non-grated door and I don't ever recall seeing anyone else doing it.  Most importantly, Para enforces the rule about solid doors and certainly never did it himself when he piked.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Malaclypse on November 19, 2012, 06:05:36 pm
I definitely remember being salty about some KUTT guy piking/long spearing through a solid, closed gate (the winch variety, through which arrows/projectiles/non-ridiculous-reach-facehug-the-scene-to-poke objects cannot pass) at some point, but that was a number of months ago now.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Kafein on November 19, 2012, 06:15:41 pm
A quick rule of thumb. If you could have stabbed/slashed through/over/between it in RL, you can be 100% sure you can do it in this game.

If you could NOT have stabbed/shlashed through/over/between it in RL, it can go both ways.

If an admin says you are NOT allowed to do something: listen to them. if you belive they are wrong, still do what they say. Don't start discussing ingame. Don't ignore what they say. Come to the forums for that discussion.

Then realistically, nobody should be able to slash through any door. It doesn't make any sense. Stabbing in the holes is realistic, slashing never is.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Tanken on November 19, 2012, 06:16:40 pm
I want official answer from legitimate admins about this new rule enforced on siege that you cannot attack thru door/gates, this include spears,throwing weapons,arrows,crossbow and all kind of weaponry.

This used to be a legit tactic as defender for several years in siege and now all suddenly new badmins administration are all butt hurt about the fact of seeing peoples using this legit tactic to defend castle when everyone know on siege that defense is slightly at a disadvantage and you gotta use all strategies possible to help you win.

Even clan KUTT was exclusively using this strategy including admins to defend castle at all cost.

So what is the official word on this freaking joke?


THIS HAPPENED 5 MONTHS AGO. GET OVER IT YOU KNAVE.


sorry but I recall seeing KUTT use pikes thru doors on multiple occasions after you had admins.  Shouldnt throw stones in glass siege castle


When? Are you talking about the time where your clan members tried to get me banned because I was stabbing them through a grated door (see Wolfgang's picture above). Our pikemen have done nothing illegal or exploited the pike ever (except for well, spin stabs are kind of an exploit). If someone was doing it, and we saw them, we quickly corrected them--but to label our whole clan as bad ducks or imply it was recent is absurd Diggles, so don't spread these lies.

Thanks.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Jarlek on November 19, 2012, 06:29:57 pm
Then realistically, nobody should be able to slash through any door. It doesn't make any sense. Stabbing in the holes is realistic, slashing never is.
I totally agree. Ban all the slashers.

Edit: forgot to mention. The rule of thumb only said that if you can do it in RL, then you are 100% allowed to do it ingame. if you can't (like slash through) then it can both be allowed or it can not. It can go both ways.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: oprah_winfrey on November 19, 2012, 06:32:55 pm
That is because we didn't have admins in siege until relatively recently.  Para definitely, 100% for sure, knew about and enforced that really commonsense rule from day 1.  Sometimes I wonder if you are actually retarded in real life.  Why do you have access to a computer?  I'm confused :(

Are you saying that people with mental retardation aren't aloud to use computers?
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Tanken on November 19, 2012, 06:36:16 pm
Are you saying that people with mental retardation aren't aloud to use computers?

No, we just recently allowed my brother to start using one.  8-)
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Elindor on November 19, 2012, 06:49:22 pm
Since Bjord hasn't piped in yet ....

NA drama :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Xeen on November 19, 2012, 10:22:00 pm
I definitely remember being salty about some KUTT guy piking/long spearing through a solid, closed gate (the winch variety, through which arrows/projectiles/non-ridiculous-reach-facehug-the-scene-to-poke objects cannot pass) at some point, but that was a number of months ago now.

Hey man, I accept completely the possibility of it having happened at some point.  With as many members as we have and with PEOPLE LIKE TANKEN in the clan, I'd bet money that it HAS happened a few times(which isn't what we're really talking about here).  But out of my 16 gens of piking I never once even tried and I played more siege than any other kutt and it never happened on my watch.  To act like this was some sort of common occurrence as these guy are is fucking ridiculous, unless my whole clan just decided they'd break rules we all understood anytime I wasn't on and then NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT IT, including the 10-ish real life friends I have in the clan that would have if it was actually something that was happening outside of extremely rare conditions with no oversight. 

Now I'm actually genuinely curious about how you were getting piked through a non-breakable door.  Like, why were you even there?  Did some guy just see you there and do it once?   Because that's hardly even notable, I know Slimpy got me through one ONE TIME and I certainly didn't make a fuss because hey, when am I ever just sitting in front of a non-breakable gate?
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Malaclypse on November 19, 2012, 10:48:46 pm
With as many members as we have and with PEOPLE LIKE TANKEN in the clan, I'd bet money that it HAS happened a few times

Haha, it was most probably Tanken; that was what I wanted to say initially but wasn't sure enough to do so. I was told that it was "fine". The gate had been open moments before and the team was en-route to open it again, so I was standing there in wait. Anyways, I'm not making a big fuss about it- I would've posted a ban request way back then if I really cared- just mentioning it because it was a situation that I remembered feeling salty about and it's moderately relevant to the conversation (that being, is it okay to stab through otherwise solid doors with long weapons which are basically exploits coded into the mod in the first place?)
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Elindor on November 19, 2012, 10:51:56 pm
... long weapons which are basically exploits coded into the mod in the first place...

Source of this problem (and many others)

 :twisted:
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: dreadnok on November 19, 2012, 11:00:47 pm
Seriously, who gives a fuck. Just kill people
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Elindor on November 19, 2012, 11:23:38 pm
Seriously, who gives a fuck. Just kill people

A wise man once said...
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Xeen on November 19, 2012, 11:37:43 pm
Haha, it was most probably Tanken; that was what I wanted to say initially but wasn't sure enough to do so. I was told that it was "fine". The gate had been open moments before and the team was en-route to open it again, so I was standing there in wait. Anyways, I'm not making a big fuss about it- I would've posted a ban request way back then if I really cared- just mentioning it because it was a situation that I remembered feeling salty about and it's moderately relevant to the conversation (that being, is it okay to stab through otherwise solid doors with long weapons which are basically exploits coded into the mod in the first place?)

I hear you man.  It just sucks that you bringing up that incredibly isolated incident is going to reinforce completely these other people's belief that this is not only a common occurrence, but also a conspiracy amongst the admins.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 19, 2012, 11:46:21 pm
Seriously, who gives a fuck. Just kill people

I agree, should be able to kill peoples in any possible way. Its a video game not real life.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: TurmoilTom on November 20, 2012, 12:58:01 am
Seriously, who gives a fuck. Just kill people

Sig'd.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: dreadnok on November 20, 2012, 03:33:50 am
Haha tommy. Sigh i miss game and the NA community
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 20, 2012, 04:06:18 am
It's actually a WARBAND problem. You guys don't remember the door slashing do you? You used to be able to hit people by slashing them when breaking door. They...kinda fixed it, not really.

You can't fix the source engine, so it's a sad. It's also a rather unenforceable rule to try and police. Only if it's seen can it really be seen.

Also, everyone's done the damn door bullshit at some point in time so that's a non sequitor.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 20, 2012, 03:30:28 pm
5 pages of this?  It's being enforced as a rule, although maybe not easily enforced, it is.  It's not a ban the first time they see you do it, they were warning people to stop.  The OP got all uppity and thought his civil rights were being violated by a video game admin, and decided to show her who was boss.  He ended up being banned for a light period (24 hours is my guess) and hopefully learned his lesson to listen to authority figures or face the consequences. 

Lock this god awful thread already...and move it to the right forum (spam)
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Aderyn on November 20, 2012, 04:30:57 pm
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Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 20, 2012, 11:26:28 pm
5 pages of this?  It's being enforced as a rule, although maybe not easily enforced, it is.  It's not a ban the first time they see you do it, they were warning people to stop.  The OP got all uppity and thought his civil rights were being violated by a video game admin, and decided to show her who was boss.  He ended up being banned for a light period (24 hours is my guess) and hopefully learned his lesson to listen to authority figures or face the consequences. 

Lock this god awful thread already...and move it to the right forum (spam)

You sound mad. And you make quite nice story in your own mind.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: dreadnok on November 21, 2012, 07:08:44 pm
If you stand back enough with a long wep you cant get hit right? That pike wiggling shit over my head irks me more
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 21, 2012, 07:44:15 pm
You sound mad. And you make quite nice story in your own mind.

Haha right buddy, I'm the one who comes across as mad  :lol:  I literally am never emotional on a website forum page discussing video games.  Nice try though, maybe come back with an actual rebuttal of what I said, otherwise I'll assume what I've stated is correct.

From the description in this thread, it sounds like you were the angry one, and instead of just listening to the admin's decision, decided to bitch and complain about it for 30 minutes.  When you were punished for ignoring the admins rules, you decided to cry more on the forums, and people pointed and laughed at you.  But I'm the mad one  :lol:

Have a nice day, I sure as hell will.
Title: Re: NA Siege rule discussion
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on November 22, 2012, 01:56:59 am
I came here on the forum to make sure there is clarification to the rules since even the admins on irc told me there was a grey spot so i decided to make the thread so at least everyone know what going on. Because honestly everyone used to do that shit including admins not so long ago, so hopefully the rules get updated to make it clear.

So yeah you can write your own story and act like i got my civil right violated by an internet admin i really dont give a fuck, if i cared so much about not being banned i would not have argued with the admin and i would have stopped from hitting peoples thru the door.