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Title: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Corsair831 on November 16, 2012, 06:35:54 pm
i always check for heirloomed equipment in every fief i go to, but never find any at all ... with the exception of a couple of items in the kapikulu lands ...

why is this ? surely it should be everywhere, all the factions use nothing but +3 gear :S ...

is there some sort of setting where only certain people can access the gear ? or is there some sort of list where i can find where stuff is ? cos atm equipping a single army is just an impossible task (unless i want to use more expensive inferior -5 equipment -_-)...
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 16, 2012, 06:38:57 pm
Just visually looking at all the lists is the only way.  I typically look for the green discounted price, because most +3 items are going to discounted as well.  Everyone has access to all the equipment in a fief.

It's been suggested to have an easy to see area in the fief weapon list that shows what is discounted or better than -2 gear.  So you can prob lock this thread and +1 my post :P
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Corsair831 on November 16, 2012, 06:43:42 pm
Just visually looking at all the lists is the only way.  I typically look for the green discounted price, because most +3 items are going to discounted as well.  Everyone has access to all the equipment in a fief.

It's been suggested to have an easy to see area in the fief weapon list that shows what is discounted or better than -2 gear.  So you can prob lock this thread and +1 my post :P

was suggested ... by me ;) ...

really, i've gone through dozens of fiefs and found precisely bugger all :/ ...

anyone know where a decent spot is to tool up the homies ?
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Turboflex on November 16, 2012, 06:54:20 pm
Only large factions field a lot +3 items so far. Factions with at least 5 fiefs, maybe even more like 10. Everyone needs to bring about 15-20 item types for a complete army, so if you have only 1-5 fiefs then you don't have the PP available to spend on +3 (costs 56 PP to bring 1 item to +3), you need to focus on other stuff like trade and then get some basic discounting for your gear but +3 is just too much of a luxury.

If I were you I would message officers of larger factions and ask them if you can buy gear. If they want shoppers coming in, they should be able to provide you a list of where to go. Some might allow it, to make money off taxes, others might not want anyone in their lands.
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: dodnet on November 16, 2012, 07:15:14 pm
You can use my script (http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/strategus-sorted-inventory-(greasemonkey-script)/) to find the improved items in the current fief easier.

But I think the main reason why there are so few loomed items in fiefs lies in the PP reset some weeks ago. I knew a few fiefs who had many looms and they all are gone now, esp. in villages. Most spend their points in S&D instead.
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Corsair831 on November 16, 2012, 07:36:55 pm
You can use my script (http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/strategus-sorted-inventory-(greasemonkey-script)/) to find the improved items in the current fief easier.

But I think the main reason why there are so few loomed items in fiefs lies in the PP reset some weeks ago. I knew a few fiefs who had many looms and they all are gone now, esp. in villages. Most spend their points in S&D instead.

Ah. thanks ...

so by that logic, i should look for fiefs that have a goods price of 15 yes ? ;)
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: dodnet on November 16, 2012, 07:57:07 pm
so by that logic, i should look for fiefs that have a goods price of 15 yes ? ;)

This and castles/towns. I think there are only few villages left which have looms.
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Corsair831 on November 16, 2012, 08:04:49 pm
This and castles/towns. I think there are only few villages left which have looms.

do looms have an expiry date ? or once you upgrade it is it permanent ?
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: dodnet on November 16, 2012, 08:10:25 pm
The owner can lower them again, but that costs PPs. Whole fief can be reset too.
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Keshian on November 17, 2012, 03:47:17 pm
Come to Nova Ismirala for +3 crossbows, arrows and horn bows.
Come to New Knudarr Castle for +3 rouncies.
Come to Nova Sargoth for +3 cavalry robes, +3 mail mittens (soon)
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: BaleOhay on November 17, 2012, 04:33:42 pm
Novel jelbegi castle for your siege and throwing needs
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Corsair831 on November 17, 2012, 04:45:54 pm
america :(
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Keshian on November 17, 2012, 04:51:09 pm
america :(

Its worth your while.  Just bring goods with you and sell in Nova Curaw or New Knudarr Castle and make 400% bonus, get +3 items and then buy more goods in Nova Reyvadin and bring those goods back for 400% bonus.  Its a long trip but fully worth it. (Nova Curaw, Nova Reyvadin, New Knudarr Castle are our current open trade fiefs)
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Stormcrow on November 17, 2012, 11:22:28 pm
Here is my current list for NA. Includes regular, +1,+2,+3 items as well as there final costs. Included cities with  outrageous taxes
Best city to visit so far is tilbaut castle, has just about everything


               
New Tash kulan   Rouncey 94g            
Nova rduna    +2 lances 71g   2 steel pick 75g         
New Narra   light xbow 84g     medium ladder 36g      seige shields 36g      
New uhhun   nothing            
            
New rindyar castle   nothing            
New tilbaut castle    +1 barbed arrow 22g   +2 mail mittens 25g    fighting axes 38g   +2 mil picks 63g   +2 horn bows 80g
   +2 long spear 60g  +1 maul 22g   +2 2h sword 80g   great maul 100g   +3 Cuir Bouilli over Mail 88g
   rus helmet 32g        kite sheild 36g     heavy aketon 37g      
               
New Ayyike   nothing            
Nova Revadin   cudgel 0g      27%tax rate      open trade fief mentioned previously by kesh
New Bhulaban   nothing      30% tax rate      
Nova Tismirr   destrier 183g   +3 purple surcoat om 50g   nordic short sword 30g      
New Slezkh   +1 arming sword 53g         
Nova slezkh castle   +2 arb  160g   +3 S bolts 26g   +3 mittens 11g      
Nova ismarala castle   +3 arrows 1.74g   bolts 3g   +3 xbow 113g   +1 arb 210g   +3 horn bow 82g
New Ismirala      +3 fighting axe 34g

pm me with more info if you have any , currently doing a spreadsheet            
Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Trillian on November 18, 2012, 01:21:41 am
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Title: Re: +3 equipment ?
Post by: Keshian on November 18, 2012, 05:24:43 am
Stormcrow - few updates and a few additions to your list

Slezkh castle upgraded to +3 arbalests

Nova Sargoth - +3 Heavy Yawshawns, +3 cavalry robes, +2 mail mittens (soon +3), +2 leather gloves, +2 blue gambesons (all 20% or more discounted)

Nova Ismirala castle now has normal quality throwing axes
Nova Knudarr Castle has +3 rouncies, +2 destriers (soon +3), +2 heavy lances, all with 20% or more discounts but with 25% tax so 5% premium for +3 items.
Nova Jelbegi Castle has all siege equipment of every type - 15% tax but with 35% discount on cmaterial and some normal throwing gear
New Vayejeg has +3 mail hauberks with 5% tax, not sure of discount

For outfitting an entire army you can go to Tahlberl or Curaw or Reyvadin where we have gear for every single class except horses.