So, what do you guys think?compleatly useless action now lets wait till USA comes and sawes the world
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20349280
Do I have to feel bad if I am actually bored by this narrow-minded crap down there and don't really care?
Do I have to feel bad if I am actually bored by this narrow-minded crap down there and don't really care?
Everyone should have an interest. Significant action between Israel and Palestine could lead to Iran + Egypt intervening. Particularly as the weapons Hammas use are already supplied by Iran and Mursi is reportedly from the same background as the Hammas leaders. Iran intervening would cause US and much of Europe concern and likely cause some sort of intervention there and well and truly give the US and West there final reason to consider war on Iran. But the US and other taking any interest would immediately put China and Russia firmly on the side of Iran and others. That's why everyone is so damn concerned about what is happening there because it could have a nasty chain of events if it gets out of hand. Fortunately those involved seem to know this and so are not fully in favour of escalating it any further than its present state.Let's see:
Let's see:
Egypt - doesn't "really" have any kind of leadership that could make intervene anything
Iran - they are not stupid, getting there hands dirty is way to risky for them cuz of the World Police watching
USofA - they are bored by their own wars, won't do shit
Russia - they gonna make some noise eventually but they are more busy keeping their own people in check
China - no idea
That's how I see things in my little own world :D
Let's see:
Egypt - doesn't "really" have any kind of leadership that could make intervene anything
Iran - they are not stupid, getting there hands dirty is way to risky for them cuz of the World Police watching
USofA - they are bored by their own wars, won't do shit
Russia - they gonna make some noise eventually but they are more busy keeping their own people in check
China - no idea
That's how I see things in my little own world :D
Everyone should have an interest. Significant action between Israel and Palestine could lead to Iran + Egypt intervening. Particularly as the weapons Hammas use are already supplied by Iran and Mursi is reportedly from the same background as the Hammas leaders. Iran intervening would cause US and much of Europe concern and likely cause some sort of intervention there and well and truly give the US and West there final reason to consider war on Iran. But the US and other taking any interest would immediately put China and Russia firmly on the side of Iran and others. That's why everyone is so damn concerned about what is happening there because it could have a nasty chain of events if it gets out of hand. Fortunately those involved seem to know this and so are not fully in favour of escalating it any further than its present state.
as far as i know USA do not want to intervene, they will just wait till they kill themselves off and then capture them oil fields (if there are some)
israel will roflstomp anyone who threatens them, for good or bad. I wish they would all just chill out and smoke some hashish.If there is any country that has a position that has a justifiable position for such behaviour, it is Israel. A country surrounded by rather aggressive theocratic or autocratic countries, multiple of which have explicitly stated that they seek the destruction of the state of Israel with one of them actively trying to acquire nuclear weapons.
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If there is any country that has a position that has a justifiable position for such behaviour, it is Israel. A country surrounded by rather aggressive theocratic or autocratic countries, multiple of which have explicitly stated that they seek the destruction of the state of Israel with one of them actively trying to acquire nuclear weapons.
As far as Hamas is concerned, they have the legitimacy of a stone and are terrorist scum. PLO is a bit of a different case, but Hamas should get its ass kicked. I don't think actions like these by Hamas have enough popular support from any of the neighbouring countries to warrant violent intervention. Apart from that most of the neighbouring countries are in shambles anyway due to current or past revolutions. Don't expect anything big happening here apart from ye old condemnations.
Something big will happen however if Iran actually gives Israel enough reason to think they can build an atomic bomb. Cause with Ahmadinejad leaving very little doubt about his intentions for Israel, Israel will pull of another pre-emptive strike. Which will probably escalate in a full Israel-Iran war, which will bring the entire Arab League in there. Then the international scene jumps in, but probably very slowly. Israel might get another miracle victory, but if they start losing they also might chuck one of those atomic bombs they are not supposed to haven. That is when we enter World War 3, so someone better stop Ahmadinejad before Israel will have to.
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Yes, you are.I lol'd. :mrgreen:
If they had no oil USA would be like "Fak you!"
Inb4 USA discovers an incredible new power source to fuel vehicles that's easy to get and very efficient and Allahu Akbarists are stuck with their crappy oil.
They can do this because all the palestinians are portrayed as terrorist/ cave men/ etc etc.
And thats how the rocket mass spam started from Gaza. See the problem here? Information is so onesided, since Palestinians don't really have a good way to spread their side of the story.Funny how you say that information is one sided and pro Israel. While I see the exact opposite in my newspapers everyday. The news in my country atleast is extremely pro palestinian and subjective, that is why I preach unsubtle pro-Israelism to counter the horribly subjective reports of popular news. Western society has long stopped favouring Israel, barely any country in the EU does. Only in the US the jewish lobby is able to maintain a somewhat pro-Israel attitude in their government, but Obama is already reaching out more to Israel's neighbours.
also, lol @ teeth saying Hamas is illegitimate. Guess you don't believe in democracy then?If a majority supports terrorism, does that make terrorism right or does it reveal the power of indoctrination? Regardless, any organization that has the destruction of a peoples in its founding charter and attacks civilian targets is a terrorist organization. You also forget that since they have been elected there has been a civil war and Hamas now unofficially controls Gaza against the wishes of the government of the West bank. Hell Human Rights Watch condemned Hamas for human rights violations even against Palestiniansand they execute people left and right. Hamas is scum.
Then everyone was like "damn those Hummus terrorist people".Regardless who started it, Hamas was firing missiles indiscriminately at civilian targets, which a full out war does not even justify. Launching missiles at non military targets is purely terrorism and yet Israel gets all the shit if they hit a school and civilians die, because Hamas was firing mortars from it. Popular opinion is a powerful weapon which somehow favours Hamas, just look at yourself, defending attacks on purely civilian targets 'because they didn't start it'. God.
Now here comes the best thing. It was later confirmed by many news sources and even the UN that Israel had infact broken the truce. The Israelis used an apache helicopter during the truce to take down some Al-Qassam soldiers exercising to kidnap israeli soldiers incase of future wars (12 soldiers died). No rockets had been launched prior to that.
And thats how the rocket mass spam started from Gaza.
Funny how you say that information is one sided and pro Israel. While I see the exact opposite in my newspapers everyday. The news in my country atleast is extremely pro palestinian and subjective, that is why I preach unsubtle pro-Israelism to counter the horribly subjective reports of popular news. Western society has long stopped favouring Israel, barely any country in the EU does. Only in the US the jewish lobby is able to maintain a somewhat pro-Israel attitude in their government, but Obama is already reaching out more to Israel's neighbours.
All of your claims that Palestinians are a peaceful people that only wish to live in peace is complete bullshit. Peaceful coexistion being so far out of reach is as much the Palestinians fault as Israel.
If a majority supports terrorism, does that make terrorism right or does it reveal the power of indoctrination? Regardless, any organization that has the destruction of a peoples in its founding charter and attacks civilian targets is a terrorist organization. You also forget that since they have been elected there has been a civil war and Hamas now unofficially controls Gaza against the wishes of the government of the West bank. Hell Human Rights Watch condemned Hamas for human rights violations even against Palestiniansand they execute people left and right. Hamas is scum.
Regardless who started it, Hamas was firing missiles indiscriminately at civilian targets, which a full out war does not even justify. Launching missiles at non military targets is purely terrorism and yet Israel gets all the shit if they hit a school and civilians die, because Hamas was firing mortars from it. Popular opinion is a powerful weapon which somehow favours Hamas, just look at yourself, defending attacks on purely civilian targets 'because they didn't start it'. God.
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Many newspapers are pro-Palestine for a reason. Why is Israel even a country? In all reality it shouldn't be and the region was occupied by Palestinian's previously.Those very same newspapers pleaded for a place to live for the poor jews just after World War 2, because of western guilt feelings about letting the extermination of 6 million jews happen. It's not like Israel carved itself out, western countries and especially your country put them there. Just because maybe sixty years ago a few people made a bad call, doesn't make that a valid reason to condemn every action of that country now on the basis that it has no right to exist.
Huh? When did I mention once that killing civilians is a good thing? Im just saying since Israel keeps spouting out that they want peace and truces, and yet they are breaking truces? And compare the statistics of killing between Hamas and Israel. I remember at one point Hamas fired 3000 rockets and about 5-20 actually hit. Killing a couple of persons and wounding more.
But an Israeli missile has 100% accuracy and seems to kill atleast 30-50 each time, mostly civilians.
And saying Hamas are actually able to "aim for civilians" doesn't make any sense. They just light the Qassam-missiles up and hope for the best.
So the US in WW2 and the UK and many others were terrorists? As far as I can recall much methods of bombing cities to dust regardless of civilians were used then. O and Vietnam, O and Iraq/Afghanistan.My definition of terrorism was indeed lacking, yet, Israel does not indiscriminately kill civilians, but they are very sloppy with collateral damage. Same with the US in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, the aim there was not to kill civilians. In WW2, yes, I would classify that as terrorism. Weakening the public support of your enemy by inciting fear. Nothing can really justify those kind of tactics, but it was a completely different time and war.
People sympathise with Palestine simply because it's quite clear that Israel considers them nothing more than dirt that needs to be swept aside and has done since it's foundation as a country. The only reason they haven't done it is because the backlash from the international community would be very strong. But if Israel was given the opportunity they would immediately do it and I can hardly blame Hamas for what they are doing. They have hit military targets as well as civilian but fact is Israel has far superior technology so what do you expect?This is exactly the kind of subjective thinking that I see in the media everyday. The Arab world considers the Jewish people as nothing more than dirt that needs to be swept aside and have done forever. I can hardly blame Israel for what they are doing in protecting the situation they have been put in by western countries. It is not like they can just go away or something, so the only way Hamas is going to achieve their goal that is stated in their founding charter, is by wiping out every single Jew in Palestina. Can't wait till they get their hands on an atomic bomb, see if they are morally superior.
This is exactly the kind of subjective thinking that I see in the media everyday. The Arab world considers the Jewish people as nothing more than dirt that needs to be swept aside and have done forever.
World War 3 will never happen, that's nonsense.
That's not what I meant. There will be wars, but full scale world war, that's not necessary anymore.
Even if there was such a possibility, I doubt this ongoing thing between Israel and muslim states will start such war.
China and Russia don't care about it, at all. USA is there because of oil and you know it. You guys don't need a huge war, just a quick way to take more muslim oil for "free" (not really for free because military operations cost money but I hope you understand what I meant).
Things could get ugly if China decides to stop selling their goods to USA, they produce materials that are needed to make those shiny things you guys love so much. Also they sell the final product but it's materials that count the most.
Even if you wanted to make things on your own once again, you simply can't do it that easily.
But Chinese are cool so far so everything is fine.
So just because Hamas is very bad at killing civilians makes them better than Israel? The intention of Israel is to disable a threat to them, while the goal of Hamas is to spread fear, hence why I call them terrorists. Violent acts intended to create fear or a feeling of unease: acts of terrorism. Intentions count, not the actual effectivity.
Apart from anything it's only a few weeks till the election in Israel. When this happened in 08/09 it started a month or so before the election. The organisation my girlfriend works with largely thinks it's political posturing from the Israelis because those who take action against Palestine are often more popular in the polls. If that is true then it reduces my opinion of Israel even further.
Politics have no relation to morals.
Who said that again, Machiavelli? He was damn right.
Isn't Machiavelli the guy einstein and Mussolini fapped off to every night?
Politics have no relation to morals.He also says that religious fanatism, racism, chauvinism etc do not have anything to do with politics. Oh how I'd wish he was right on that part.
Who said that again, Machiavelli? He was damn right.
I've read some of his writings and he had a very cold-hearted view of the world, although totally understandable why.If everyone was as cold hearted as Machiavelli the world would be a much better place.
If everyone was as cold hearted as Machiavelli the world would be a much better place.
Am I allowed to wish they both just nuke each other so we don't have to fear about a shitty war over that piece of desert every 2 years?
No, cause the people want peace, but the goverments feels that they need to keep the tension high. Also 2 nations nuking eachother would create a radiationclowd that will probably affect the entire Earth. And if the West wouldnt intervene and mind its own buisness it would be a disaster. Israel might start a genocide or the arabnations would join the side of the Palestinians and start wiping out Israelis with huge hate.
why is it fair for america to give weapons to isreal but not anyone to give weapons to hamas? isnt palestine technically under occupation? and isnt it custom for the occupied to fight the occupier? now lets just use iran as an example, lets say they are giving weapons to hamas, how many wars have iran actually started ? and how many wars have america started and been involved in? so really america and isreal are the terrorists and war mongerers, its just funny how they media made anyone not from the west a boogyman. its just sad that most people have lost commen sence. peace on earth wont be achieved until palestine is free.Most people in this thread have a 20 year old view of the public opinion. U.S. already has a huge reputation has a power hungry warmonger and no country apart from the U.S. favors Israel, since Obama even the U.S. has become pretty much neutral. In most of the EU public opinion is strongly against Israel, and so is the average news agency. Just look at everyone in this thread, clearly favouring the Palestines, that should give you a pretty good view on the public opinion.
nelson mandella once said upon his release from jail :- But we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.
nuke both, problems = solvedNuke you = less idiotic people...
a strong proponent of the spread of liberal values through intervention and a strong proponent of international organisations, obviously they are going to fight more wars.
strong proponent of international organisations
NEW YORK — UNESCO voted Monday to admit Palestine into the organization as its newest member, and the United States promptly responded by cutting off funding for the agency.
The prohibition on U.S. funding of U.N. agencies that recognize a Palestinian state was included in two pieces of legislation that were signed into law by President George H.W. Bush in 1990 and President Bill Clinton in 1994.
Facts (History) > Opinions.I did not state an opinion. I did not condemn or commend anything. I only stated that you cannot compare the number of wars that the U.S. or Iran started, because they are completely different countries in the world system, all my other statements are facts.
And the entire western world was cheering for them. Meanwhile Soviet Russia was also desperately trying to expand their sphere of influence as well, both convinced that the other side wanted world domination. Why would I have to study these cases exactly?(click to show/hide)
I also want to latch on to:It is a fact that the U.S. is a strong proponent of international organizations, they took the lead in creating most of them. All of them based on their own set of values ofcourse. What exactly makes you laugh about that simple fact?
That one made me laugh.
The best help, the best aid, comes via private institutions, not Government.What does this have to do with anything, and I mean anything, I said exactly? I can't help to get the impression that you are trying to have a discussion with me about entirely unrelated things. Read my post again, perhaps.
I did not state an opinion. I did not condemn or commend anything. I only stated that you cannot compare the number of wars that the U.S. or Iran started, because they are completely different countries in the world system, all my other statements are facts.
The private sector making money of a war does not have anything to do with the government in a free market country, you can't blame the U.S. for having citizens who trade with chocolate chip cookie Germany. Not sure what your point is with the entire thing.
American companies =/= American government.
And the entire western world was cheering for them. Meanwhile Soviet Russia was also desperately trying to expand their sphere of influence as well, both convinced that the other side wanted world domination. Why would I have to study these cases exactly?
It is a fact that the U.S. is a strong proponent of international organizations, they took the lead in creating most of them. All of them based on their own set of values ofcourse. What exactly makes you laugh about that simple fact?
What does this have to do with anything, and I mean anything, I said exactly? I can't help to get the impression that you are trying to have a discussion with me about entirely unrelated things. Read my post again, perhaps.
But if you look at the money as percentage, the US is cheap.
You can find more if you look.
That's what I said. The us gives the most RAW dollars(double the next closest donor) but it's only so MINIMAL from gdp.
A comparison of number of wars is really unfair between the U.S. and Iran, U.S. was the hegemonic power for the pas two decades and before that a superpower in a bipolar world and a strong proponent of the spread of liberal values through intervention and a strong proponent of international organisations, obviously they are going to fight more wars.
Some would argue the spread of liberal values isn't necessarily a good thing or in fact that many of the countries needed any 'intervention' in the first place.I know, not saying it is a good thing, but in the Cold War it was accepted as long as it meant preventing the spread of communism.
Double post but just read that bit.
Bringing individuals into a discussion about two peoples, good point.(click to show/hide)
Here is your Israeli victim who deserves to "defend" it's self.
What a fucking hero. Hope a missile hits his home and kills his family in a horrible way.
Bringing individuals into a discussion about two peoples, good point.
So that when ur brother comes home and he sees ur limbs all over the place he will suffer for what he did only on a much larger scale, so not out of an eye for an eye principle.
Okaaaaaay... it is still just as stupid. Why do I have to die, and suffer, for what someone else has done? Thats like saying the kid deserved to be beat up because his father shot a rocket towards the soldiers family.
Because Allahu Snackbar logic. You know in those countries you get your head decapped for embracing western ideals rite?
Great, some pissed off arabs thinks that. Israel DOES IT, every day. They get some rocks thrown at them by some starving illiterate peasant Palestinian? STRATEGIC AIR BOMBING CAMPAIGN OVER DENSEST CITY ON EARTH FOR 2 WEEKS UNTIL CEASEFIRE. (throw in infantry invasion every 5 years for flavor)
End of war death tolls? Usually 3 IDF from friendly fire or accidents, 5 civilians injured from the rockets launched from Gaza (those rockets have fatality rates lower than fireworks) then thousands of Palestianian civilians dead, and way more homeless, families destroyed, forced even further into the worse conditions of abject poverty and slow methodical genocide you can imagine.
Just imagine locking up a dog in a cage, and pissing on it daily while you starve it half to death. If the dog growls or snaps at you when you walk by, you use it as cassus beli to begin beating the dog to death with a baseball bat.
And use it as causus belli to beat every dog that this one in the cage ever gave birth to or every dog who's ass it's smelled
What a savage dog.
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/netanyahu-admits-on-video-he-deceived-us-to-destroy-oslo-accord (http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/netanyahu-admits-on-video-he-deceived-us-to-destroy-oslo-accord)
http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/606/937-heritage-of-israel/ (http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/606/937-heritage-of-israel/)
They didn't make shit on their own.
After World War II and the Holocaust, a massive wave of stateless Jews, mainly Holocaust survivors, began migrating to Palestine in small boats in defiance of British rules. The Holocaust united much of the rest of world Jewry behind the Zionist project.[42] The British either imprisoned these Jews in Cyprus (including many orphaned children) or sent them to the British-controlled Allied Occupation Zones in Germany. This resulted in universal Jewish support for Zionism and the refusal of the U.S. Congress to grant economic aid to Britain. In addition, Zionist groups attacked the British in Palestine and, with its empire facing bankruptcy, Britain was forced to refer the issue to the newly created United Nations.
In 1947, the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) recommended that western Palestine should be partitioned into a Jewish state, an Arab state and a UN-controlled territory, Corpus separatum, around Jerusalem.[43] This partition plan was adopted on November 29, 1947 with UN GA Resolution 181, 33 votes in favor, 13 against, and 10 abstentions. The vote led to celebrations in the streets of Jewish cities.[44] However, the Palestinian Arabs and the Arab states rejected the UN decision, demanding a single state and removal of Jewish migrants, leading to the 1948 Arab–Israeli War.
Im not denying the authencity of the video. But it seems a bit dodgy. Is this video mentioned in any other sources?
Nuke you = less idiotic people...
Sure, God promised it to us
Our God is not theirs.
- David Ben-Gurion, Israel's first prime minister
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I believe in freedom but for me freedom means that you're free to do anything you want but under one condition. You aren't allowed to affect freedom of other individuals. It's pretty simple, but this civilization never followed those simple rules.
They have tech far beyond most countries, even the good ole USA gets tech from Israel.True, though all advanced countries get tech from all the other ones.
Where do you think we got our drones from?
True, though all advanced countries get tech from all the other ones.
Ourselves, actually, designed and developed as both a concept and as individual blueprints/designs, naturally the individual parts may come from a collection of countries, but Israel is a non-factor for US drone development and what parts that do come from there can easily be obtained from another country.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle).
Ourselves, actually, designed and developed as both a concept and as individual blueprints/designs, naturally the individual parts may come from a collection of countries, but Israel is a non-factor for US drone development and what parts that do come from there can easily be obtained from another country.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle)
Regardless, they certainly do pioneer a lot of impressive technologies both military and non-military.
"Personally, when it comes to rights, I think one of two things is true: I think either we have unlimited rights, or we have no rights at all. Personally, I lean toward unlimited rights - I feel, for instance, I have the right to do anything I please. But, if I do something you don't like, I think you have the right to kill me. So where you gonna find a fairer fucking deal than that? So the next time some asshole says to you, "I have a right to my opinion," you say, "Oh yeah? Well, I have a right to my opinion, and my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion." Then shoot the fuck and walk away! "George Carling! :mrgreen:
As always Scandinavians are leading the charge for equality, freedom and justice :wink:
Norway (who is leading the charge) is together with Denmark and the wannabe Scandinavians, Finland, plus Sweden -- they haven't officially decided yet but several parties have already voted yes, though it seems they might cop out and not vote, several high-end politicians in Sweden have strong ties to American politics too -- Are looking to elevate the Palestinian UN status to an 'observer state' which means they will have access and be included in several UN organs plus the ICC (International Criminal Court) -- the latter would be the real winner for justice and freedom, because it would severely limit if not completely stop - in time - the atrocities.
There's also talks about a BAN on any sort of goods that come out of Israeli settlements in occupied territory. (Unrelated to this movement).
The US, Israel and Germany is of course not happy, at all :rolleyes: and will vote No.
Netherlands will most likely vote no too.
Great Britain has demands and might abstain.
France, Spain, Austria and Portugal supports Palestine.
Russia will most likely vote Yes. China and India too.
Well they succeeded :) Naturally Israel have basically implied they'll ignore it and also consider it a violation of previous agreements.Unfortunately it means shit.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/10114#.ULig3OQabnMOh, you got new title... :rolleyes:
If you don't support every action of theirs, you're obviously against them :rolleyes:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/10114#.ULig3OQabnM
If you don't support every action of theirs, you're obviously against them :rolleyes:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/10114#.ULig3OQabnMHell, someone took a look at those comments beneath the article?
If you don't support every action of theirs, you're obviously against them :rolleyes:
Yep, our glorious leader changed my title for the third time.
It is foretold in the Holy Book of false promises that one who obtains 3rd title during his lifetime (without being permabanned), becomes the only true messiah of chadzianity.
i hateAren't you tired of hating? I used to hate ppl, stupid ppl, arrogant ppl, fanatics, etc., and then I realized it's not worth the effort (actually it's not an effort per se but still), so now I don't give a damn about anything except myself :wink:
Aren't you tired of hating? I used to hate ppl, stupid ppl, arrogant ppl, fanatics, etc., and then I realized it's not worth the effort (actually it's not an effort per se but still), so now I don't give a damn about anything except myself :wink:
I'm not sure why the international community is so focused on Israel's actions ("unlawful" though they may be). You don't hear much about Qatar's virrulent racism and exploitation of what basically amounts to slaves brought in from Asia and never allowed to leave. Or the unconditional support the US and other occidental nations give to Saudi Arabia despite it being a totalitarian shithole worse than anything Israel could ever achieve. Or any of a dozen other areas of the world where far worse injustices are meted out daily, but it's politically/economically convenient to ignore it or take it for granted.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/10114#.ULig3OQabnM
If you don't support every action of theirs, you're obviously against them :rolleyes:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/10114#.ULig3OQabnMSure, anitsemitism in the epitome of political correctness and multiculturalism in europe...
If you don't support every action of theirs, you're obviously against them :rolleyes:
A day after the United Nations General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to upgrade the status of the Palestinians, a senior Israeli official said the government would pursue “preliminary zoning and planning preparations” for a development that would separate the West Bank cities of Ramallah and Bethlehem from Jerusalem. If such a project were to go beyond blueprints, it could prevent the creation of a viable, contiguous Palestinian state
Israel to build 3,000 illegal settler homes in occupied territory after UN vote in Palestinian favour (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20552391)...and freezing a shitload of money they would have paid otherwise
Israel kicking so much ass.Kicking the ass of defenseless children mostly (IDF has killed more than 1160 Palestinian children since 2000), perhaps you should choose your heroes with more care.
Arabs should gtfo it's Israel's land, they won it in wars, 1948, 1967, 1973. If they got a problem with getting killed maybe they should stop fighting somebody a million times stronger than them. Go to Egypt or Jordan plenty of room, no jews to bother you either they were all kicked out decades ago. Israel rules!
Star Wars is a sci-fi tale, real life isn't.
If you're going to draw parallels from Star Wars :rolleyes: to this conflict or the current state of the World there is though some note of seriousness to latch on to;
Star Wars & False Flag Terrorism - http://vimeo.com/41963839 (http://vimeo.com/41963839)
This fan documentary, written and directed by David Brennan, reveals how, just as the original Star Wars trilogy was modelled after mythology and folklore, the prequel trilogy was modelled after history. It goes over the prequels story of false flag terrorism step-by-step, and then reveals how George Lucas had this element planned since 1973!
There's also plenty of interviews with George Lucas discussing our history, literature, politics and how we haven't learned from any of those experiences at all - plus how he has weaved that into his art creations (movies).
The Six Day War spawned the special relationship between Israel and the United States of America. Elizabeth Stephens explores the cultural backdrop to this momentous development which resonates in the Middle East to this day
If you're going to draw parallels from Star Wars :rolleyes: to this conflict or the current state of the World there is though some note of seriousness to latch on to;
Star Wars & False Flag Terrorism - http://vimeo.com/41963839 (http://vimeo.com/41963839)
This fan documentary, written and directed by David Brennan, reveals how, just as the original Star Wars trilogy was modelled after mythology and folklore, the prequel trilogy was modelled after history. It goes over the prequels story of false flag terrorism step-by-step, and then reveals how George Lucas had this element planned since 1973!
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Now you're going to ruin a good movie series with more conspiracy talk lol.
Let's see:
Egypt - doesn't "really" have any kind of leadership that could make intervene anything
Iran - they are not stupid, getting there hands dirty is way to risky for them cuz of the World Police watching
USofA - they are bored by their own wars, won't do shit
Russia - they gonna make some noise eventually but they are more busy keeping their own people in check
China - no idea
That's how I see things in my little own world :D