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Title: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on November 08, 2012, 12:51:46 am
I had my hopes...


No more. Looks like SimCity 4 is going to remain the best city managment game for another decade.

I thought they would grow a brain and understand that in a real city, the mayor does not build every goddamn thing... Yet that kind of stupidity is still in. They are literally implementing everything that was terrible in Societies and going away from the awesome ideas that were there from the beginning, but never make it in such as elections or a more realistic decision process. Every signal shows they are making a "myCity" game where you control, or rather design everything yourself. Now you have to place every apartment yourself. How was drawing a zone and watching your sims building the stuff they decided to build there by themselves so bad ? Doing everything yourself is unrealistic, time consuming, boring and will always end up with cities entirely made up of 3 different buildings. /rant

Other than that, it mostly looks cool, especially the multiplayer thing. If the gameplay and mechanics are not too bad, maybe I'll try it. Origin though, eeek.

Edit : ho wait, was confused by some videos that did not show things like they work most of the time. It doesn't look that bad here :




Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Grumbs on November 08, 2012, 03:35:39 am
Don't really fancy getting an EA "Sim" type game now. I expect it will just be like a sandbox city designer without much strategy or depth. Plus I don't want Origin

I expect it will be full of DLC's that ruin the overall experience too
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Vibe on November 08, 2012, 09:09:00 am
Don't really fancy getting an EA "Sim" type game now. I expect it will just be like a sandbox city designer without much strategy or depth. Plus I don't want Origin

I expect it will be full of DLC's that ruin the overall experience too

don't feel bad about pirating EA games

Also, still looks that the areas you can put down are a lot more predefined than it's predecessors. Doesn't look like you can change the size of it at all.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Havoco on November 08, 2012, 09:49:30 am
Multiplayer... Seriously?

Also, when did u stop having to place power lines and pipes?
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Vibe on November 08, 2012, 10:02:07 am
Multiplayer... Seriously?

Also, when did u stop having to place power lines and pipes?

casualize 4 lyf
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on November 08, 2012, 04:55:45 pm
I wouldn't feel bad about pirating an EA game but if it really is good enough I might buy it. I already got Origin running in what is basically a lightweight VM so for me they can spy the shit out of nothing. They can even put viruses, I won't give a fuck. And I'm kinda hooked on management games, playing the same game for nearly 10 years now is getting old, literally. The DLC's might be a real problem if they push the vanilla game to lack content, but I most often don't even care, I'm not the kind of player that needs to know I have the "complete" game (but I still don't like a game with a lack of content).
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Tibe on November 08, 2012, 09:07:15 pm
Looks like it can get boring pretty fast. :?
Just pirate it. EA mainly recycles its own shit while doing as little work as possible.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on November 08, 2012, 10:24:41 pm
I can guarantee I never got bored with SimCity 4  :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 02, 2013, 04:21:01 pm
I was sceptical at the beginning, mainly cuz of the rather small size of the tiles you gonna get to create your city...

...but after watching this 4hours-gameplay, I actually placed a pre-order for the Limited Edition  :mrgreen:

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/2987316/events/1902153 (http://new.livestream.com/accounts/2987316/events/1902153)

The really cool thing is that the small size of your tile gives the whole thing another edge imo. You have to check for the wealth of your people and create space for the certain kind of people you wanna attract depending on where you place the focus of your city.
Wanna do a Las Vegas, you gonna need high wealth people, you're going for industry, then you need middle wealth people and the working population aaand create a high educational standard to keep polution in check. Well, and so on really.

Overall the gameplay footage showed me a really fun, easy to get in but hard to get high, kind of Sim City and I am pretty sure that I gonna have a blast with it.
And then there is the regional and global "multiplayer". You gonna actually ex- and import stuff from the region or world. You can setup trade with other players. And not just "goods" but even export your poo to another city and save yourself from sewage but in return take care of your neighbours garbage and stuff like that... I really like this idea.

So, I was wondering who else will be playing Sim City 4 and maybe if we can try to get into the same region to cooperate? I don't really know how exactly it's working and if there even is the possibility to play "with friends" but I sure hope so.
So, anyone? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 02, 2013, 06:17:08 pm
Will probably play this just to see how it actually plays.  I think there's a good chance it could be a decent time sink but not on the same scale as 4.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 02, 2013, 06:53:20 pm
Well, I can't really say cuz the last SimCity I played was 3000.

...but I have high hopes with this one after actually viewing the full 4h yesterday :P
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 02, 2013, 08:56:25 pm
I knew it already but

60 euros
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Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: SeQuel on March 02, 2013, 09:27:45 pm
I doubt you'll be able to pirate this game.

With it being multiplayer only essentially since you have to have a online connection at all times and can't play any kind of Single Player mode it's gonna be hard/impossible (Not sure if impossible). Not only that but it's a Origin game and Origin cracks have not been around for nearly as long as steam cracks so that just makes it a little harder.

Game looks good, but I refuse to support EA.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 02, 2013, 09:59:30 pm
I support Maxis. Couldn't care less about EA.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 03, 2013, 12:10:40 am
I support Maxis. Couldn't care less about EA.

You don't really get to choose how much money ends up in Maxis hands...
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: NuberT on March 03, 2013, 01:06:11 am
Pirating the game, but donating to Maxis mabe? :D

I had so much fun with their games back in the days..
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yes even SimTower, I think it was the first game released for windows 3.1
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Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 03, 2013, 02:28:24 am
Also, too easy, no subway, incomplete singleplayer experience and the maps are too small.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 03, 2013, 08:19:30 am
I remember Sim Tower. I sank whole days into that game :D

Kafein, did you watch a bit of the stream? I agree that the tile size is rather small but it brings new challenges too.

Besides, I've read a statement that the size was a performance decision and that there is a high chance that they will allow bigger city with a patch at some point.

I still think it's gonna be great. And pirating won't get anything to Maxis. Game sells bad means no patches with freebies and the end of the series. I want Maxis to get w/e money they get so they stay around and make maybe even a new SimTower one day :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 03, 2013, 11:54:33 am
I remember Sim Tower. I sank whole days into that game :D

Kafein, did you watch a bit of the stream? I agree that the tile size is rather small but it brings new challenges too.

Besides, I've read a statement that the size was a performance decision and that there is a high chance that they will allow bigger city with a patch at some point.

I still think it's gonna be great. And pirating won't get anything to Maxis. Game sells bad means no patches with freebies and the end of the series. I want Maxis to get w/e money they get so they stay around and make maybe even a new SimTower one day :D

I watched the entire stream but I'm really concerned about one thing, and that's how little I've seen of what made me play SimCity 4 over and over : budget management and city planning. They seem to be rolling in riches no matter how crappy they do. Money should be one hell of an issue, it isn't. Just look at people playing the beta like retards (each house should have a private police station, yeah) and still not failing horribly. And besides the very obvious things that the UI shows you such as pollution, the city planning seems to be very free in the sense that you are not punished for doing less evidently bad things, such as placing your residential areas too far from the jobs.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 03, 2013, 05:30:25 pm
I completely understand your concerns, really do.

There are effects of air or ground pollution on the residential area, same goes for traffic or not enough commercial around. I guess, considering I played SC2000 as the last one, the effects aren't as drastic as they used to be. Which seems to be connected to the regions they introduced.
You could make a complete city consisting of 80% industry and it would probably still work cuz workers you lack start to commute in from other cities around you. Or the other way around - you build a city with 80% residential and commercial with a lack of industrial, therefore working places, and people start to commute to industry outside of your city.

Concerning the money management... yea, they are pretty rich and it's something that unsettles me too, tbh. On the other hand, the players in those streams are people who worked on the game/QA people who know the game inside out already. Maybe they even cheated their starting money for demonstration purposes... I dunno :)

...but it just looks so nice and seems to play really smooth and I really like the regional/global influence on cities. I think that it's less micro but more macro now.

I am not trying to convince anyone. Don't think I can. Merely saying that I am digging what they showed in detail in those streams.  :wink:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 03, 2013, 05:35:11 pm
After seeing so many youtubers suck at making towns im gunna have to play this...
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Havoco on March 04, 2013, 02:13:43 am
Kinda wondering if we can choose a region size... If so we should make a crpg server for everyone.  :lol: planning on making my first city high-crime tourist attraction.

Edit: Was reading the game info and it looks like max is 16 cities.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 05, 2013, 12:55:57 am
And I'm kinda hooked on management games.
If you want I can recommend you a few, most will be at least five years old and 2d though.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: AreTreble on March 05, 2013, 08:42:08 pm
The metacritic reviews are hard to decipher due to anti-DRM ragers giving 0s and anti-anti-DRM ragers giving 10s.

Can a brother get an honest review from someone here?
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 05, 2013, 08:44:44 pm
Ain't released for me yet...

I've read tho that they had huge issues on release day with the server capacity. Every time the same shit going on...  :?
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Thovex on March 05, 2013, 10:11:47 pm
Ain't released for me yet...

I've read tho that they had huge issues on release day with the server capacity. Every time the same shit going on...  :?

Yea like 3 hour wait time or some shit thanks to the always-on DRM, I heard their also offering refunds already lmao.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Smoothrich on March 05, 2013, 10:19:48 pm
I uploaded a video blog to share my reactions to the launch here.

Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 05, 2013, 11:04:50 pm
I considered pre ordering for a while, then I realised, the things you get from it ain't worth shit. That the release would be a mess was known for a fact last year already.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 05, 2013, 11:47:33 pm
Noones surprised by the shitty release.  Hopefully EU release will be better...
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 06, 2013, 12:20:17 pm
I don't expect to be any better tbh.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Vibe on March 06, 2013, 12:21:38 pm
looks like one of the games you should torrent
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 06, 2013, 12:36:51 pm
Good luck with that. Always on DRM and server side processing of game elements is gunna make pirating sim city a bitch.  That shits annoying but it's effective.

@molly. Im not confident but we can hope.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: [ptx] on March 06, 2013, 12:38:59 pm
Duh, this approach has been tried before. Cracked, and actually makes the pirated versions more user-friendly, since pirates don't have to deal with Origin and the "always connected" crap.

Way to shoot oneself in the foot.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 06, 2013, 12:43:29 pm
Examples? The server side processing is what I think will limit it rather than the DRM shit. Fuck EA and their bullshit.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Vibe on March 06, 2013, 12:44:43 pm
Tbh people have cracked pretty much every game out there, including server side-heavy games like MMOs. Just a matter of time.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 06, 2013, 12:46:50 pm
Yea I don't doubt it will happen,  just gunna take a while. Still as a legit customer I can go and abuse EA support staff and the people on their forums.  :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 06, 2013, 05:12:57 pm
Yea I don't doubt it will happen,  just gunna take a while. Still as a legit customer I can go and abuse EA support staff and the people on their forums.  :D
But, doesn't EA ban your origin account for that? Or are they slightly less fucked than steam in that regard?
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 06, 2013, 05:25:07 pm
830 min wait for ea customer support, i cant even abuse them :(
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Thovex on March 06, 2013, 08:52:57 pm
Yea lol I just saw this visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 07, 2013, 03:55:52 pm
I've read there are huge server problems for EU too and the NA problems aren't fixed completely either  :?

I bought the Limited cheap at a keyseller so I have to wait a bit longer for the Aussie/Asia release... maybe I can log in by then  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 07, 2013, 04:04:28 pm
i should stop doing work and go home so i can wait to play...
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 07, 2013, 05:42:03 pm
Sounds like a plan - everything else would be a waste of time really...
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 07, 2013, 07:38:18 pm
Quote
Dear Mr. X,

We are terribly sorry to inform you that due to official publisher issues with the "SimCity EA Origin Key" product activation and its versions not all languages are still currently available for it in the fully functional multilingual version as earlier described in a product at this point.

Since we do not want to mislead you and send you a version without all mentioned languages included while EA Origin is sorting that problem out, we would like to offer you 3 possibilities until the problem is figured out and solved on their part:

- waiting for EA Origin solution
- getting reward points for the same value (+ addition 500 reward points for the inconvenience)
- getting the full refund

We look forward to hearing from you.

trololo - EA sucks :P

I am not mad tho since I saved 20€ on my purchase after all  :wink:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 08, 2013, 01:42:23 am
Hey, that sounds like a nice keyseller :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 08, 2013, 01:47:23 am
Got in-game no problem, granted it's not prime time but i was expecting people to crush the servers as soon as it went live.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 08, 2013, 12:01:53 pm
Just got my key and played the tutorial :D

My Origin name is "benkei1st" - anyone up for a game?  8-)
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on March 08, 2013, 12:03:55 pm
I'm going to guess they have fixed it now?  :o
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 08, 2013, 12:43:11 pm
When I tried to get it the first time, it said "Server full - wait" but I just chose a server manually and got in instantly...


And I need Origin usernames to friend everyone!!! I wanna send all my poop to Casimir's city :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 08, 2013, 12:49:56 pm
Will be online later. Think my origin name is CasimirX
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on March 08, 2013, 01:27:24 pm
Dammit, I can't buy it off of Origin's website!!!  :evil:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 08, 2013, 01:29:36 pm
Dammit, I can't buy it off of Origin's website!!!  :evil:

Check here (http://www.g2play.net/store/SimCity/) *cough*

Will be online later. Think my origin name is CasimirX
Gonna see if I can add you. Started a new private area with 11 city places called "chadz and friends" :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on March 08, 2013, 02:24:25 pm
Thanks molly but I want to get the digital deluxe version, but Origin is being stupid and wont let me check out when I try to buy the game. This game seems more trouble then its worth, first it wouldn't let people play for what? two days? now it wont let people buy it.... EA seem to be making more and more fuck-ups. :/
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: NuberT on March 08, 2013, 02:46:13 pm
Simcity 4 + Mods is most likely a 100 times better anyway.. I am gonna wait

btw trololo http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/simcity
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 08, 2013, 02:49:34 pm
Can't find CasimirX btw... maybe cuz you're offline.

And about metacritic... Oh well...

I can't really complain so far. Downloaded it, installed it, playing it, having fun so far :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 08, 2013, 03:08:16 pm
Cos meta critic is good for anything.

Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knew EA would goof the launch. Doesn't make the actual game play terrible.

Molly will try and add you when I get home later.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on March 08, 2013, 03:37:52 pm
FINALLY!!! I bought the limited edition and got the British city set separate... Only wanted the deluxe edition for that city set so I saved £13! ha fk you EA!!! Downloading now  8-)
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 08, 2013, 05:08:09 pm
Lol, cheetah speed removed
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Thovex on March 08, 2013, 05:11:51 pm
'EA Threatens to ban for asking for refunds over SimCity'
lmao
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 08, 2013, 05:34:07 pm
Does anyone know how to take a screenshot?  :oops:

Nvm, found it in the online manual :P Press 'c'

Careful, it's big  :mrgreen:

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Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 08, 2013, 05:39:53 pm
I bet that is not a casino town
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Leesin on March 08, 2013, 06:02:40 pm
I was told this is EZ mode compared to the older games, is this the usual EA dumbing down bullshit or is it false information? meh, not that I'm going to pay £45 for a Sim City game anyway.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 08, 2013, 06:14:46 pm
I bet that is not a casino town
Nope, drilling for oil like a boss :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Thovex on March 08, 2013, 09:37:38 pm
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Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 08, 2013, 09:43:07 pm
Been trying to reconnect to West 1 for over 2 hours...
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 09, 2013, 12:44:36 am
I'm positive for a successful try in the morning around 8am  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 09, 2013, 08:52:20 pm
My fire dept consists of a bunch of amateurs -.-
(click to show/hide)

Just came in:

Quote
Something Special for Your Trouble

The good news is that SimCity is a solid hit in all major markets. The consensus among critics and players is that this is fundamentally a great game. But this SimCity is made to be played online, and if you can’t get a stable connection, you’re NOT having a good experience. So we’re not going to rest until we’ve fixed the remaining server issues.

And to get us back in your good graces, we’re going to offer you a free PC download game from the EA portfolio. On March 18, SimCity players who have activated their game will receive an email telling them how to redeem their free game.

I know that’s a little contrived – kind of like buying a present for a friend after you did something crummy. But we feel bad about what happened. We’re hoping you won’t stay mad and that we’ll be friends again when SimCity is running at 100 percent.

SimCity is a GREAT game and the people who made it are incredibly proud. Hang in there – we’ll be providing more updates throughout the weekend.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 09, 2013, 09:38:50 pm
18th is my birthday.  :D

Also I joined your region and have begun polluting it with my masses of industry. Need moar workers god damn...
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 09, 2013, 10:35:24 pm
18th is my birthday.  :D

Also I joined your region and have begun polluting it with my masses of industry. Need moar workers god damn...
As long as those workers come to me to see the Eiffel Tower and gamble in my Casinos... I'm down with it :P

The last fix/patch/server upgrade did a lot I think... seems fine now.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on March 09, 2013, 10:53:19 pm
How you do place monuments? I bought the British city set separately but It hasn't told me how to build it :cry:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 10, 2013, 12:11:26 am
How you do place monuments? I bought the British city set separately but It hasn't told me how to build it :cry:

I got myself the French one.
You have to build the monument and then the buildings around it transform. Kinda stupid. Guess it's Big Ben for the British...

Oh, and gimme your Origin ID so I can invite you to Casimir and me into the region ;D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on March 10, 2013, 12:15:23 am
I don't know how to play properly yet  :lol: also how to I build monuments? I don't see it in the menu D:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 10, 2013, 12:41:00 am
Region specialisation - tourism.

(I don't have any of the city packs so that might be wrong, but that's were all the normal monuments are)
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on March 10, 2013, 12:42:43 am
ok thankyou!! <3 :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 10, 2013, 01:24:51 am
Sent 70K from my industrial city to my newly established worker commune, but it must have been stolen as it went through molly's city.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 10, 2013, 12:31:57 pm
The casinos took it. Mob bosses everywhere... :o

I don't know how to play properly yet  :lol: also how to I build monuments? I don't see it in the menu D:

Doesn't matter, me neither. I make it up as I go along :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 10, 2013, 01:44:07 pm
Both big cities are mine. The little one in the middle is probably Casimirs working force pithole :D
(click to show/hide)

I am thinking about creating a new region tho. Just 5 slots seems a bit small, especially everyone claiming 2 tiles :D

How about a 16 tiles private region? :wink:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 10, 2013, 03:39:30 pm
I'd be up for a big one, city size limit really forces you to switch around.  And yes, i set up the worker commune then decided i should probably do some work :p
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 10, 2013, 04:29:55 pm
I'd be up for a big one, city size limit really forces you to switch around.  And yes, i set up the worker commune then decided i should probably do some work :p
Already set up and running. Name is "crpg" and I've sent an invite... =)
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 10, 2013, 04:31:15 pm
Time to pollute the whole region again.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Havoco on March 11, 2013, 02:40:31 am
From my personal experience the sim city release was still better than diablo 3s. I know that doesn't say much because blizzard and EA are both piles of shit. After I get heart of the swarm and this "free" game from EA, I doubt ill be buying any other games from either of them. Hopefully some of the smaller publishers get a little more popular.

Or better yet, hopefully publishers go extinct.

Aside from the servers, the game is great, aside from a few glitches of course.


Also, does anyone know how to make tunnels?
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 11, 2013, 04:06:35 pm
Also, does anyone know how to make tunnels?

Not advertised, I am pretty much certain you can't.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Havoco on March 12, 2013, 01:31:39 am
Not advertised, I am pretty much certain you can't.
It says it in the road info window that u can, though they spelled through wrong, so it might just be trolling.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Rumblood on March 13, 2013, 05:56:06 pm
From my personal experience the sim city release was still better than diablo 3s. I know that doesn't say much because blizzard and EA are both piles of shit. After I get heart of the swarm and this "free" game from EA, I doubt ill be buying any other games from either of them. Hopefully some of the smaller publishers get a little more popular.

Or better yet, hopefully publishers go extinct.

Aside from the servers, the game is great, aside from a few glitches of course.


Also, does anyone know how to make tunnels?

EA is Satan. Don't support Satan. Even if he offers you a wildly hot Redhead with big tits, he will still take your soul. Only in the case of Simcity, the Redhead also has syphilis and herpes so you lose even before you get to hell.  :P
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 13, 2013, 07:07:59 pm
News from the front :evil:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/12/simcity-server-not-necessary/
http://answers.ea.com/t5/Miscellaneous-Issues/Traffic-quot-AI-quot-This-is-why-services-and-traffic-are-broken/m-p/737060
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/9361396.page
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 13, 2013, 07:30:08 pm
Would explain why my super casino is loosing 100k a day even though i have thousands of tourists visiting my city
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Vincent_Ruth on March 13, 2013, 09:38:50 pm
ur cities sux.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 13, 2013, 09:59:27 pm
that as well
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 13, 2013, 11:20:50 pm
Casimir, would you try the full residential city ? That sounds awesome
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 13, 2013, 11:31:22 pm
I haven't done a whole pure city, although one i made was about 90% residential and that works fine.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Polobow on March 14, 2013, 01:35:35 pm
A reddit user, AzzerUK, managed to remove the DRM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bmce9oIxJag), kind of. He did this by changing the 20 minute offline limit to an infite amount through the debug-menu.
He had posted a thread on the EA forum about this, but it got deleted.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Araxiel on March 15, 2013, 02:01:38 pm
LOL

Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 15, 2013, 02:13:15 pm
You've read the disclaimer below the video too, right? :P
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 15, 2013, 11:04:55 pm
Youtube user Ross Borchers said : "I like to imagine that maxis got super pissed at EA's restrictions and business model and therefore decided to make all of this really easy to discover in a desperate act of martyrdom."
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Araxiel on March 15, 2013, 11:25:17 pm
You've read the disclaimer below the video too, right? :P
No, i havent but still... Good job EA! :D
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: SixThumbs on March 16, 2013, 05:09:23 pm
"I didn't buy the game and I still got hours of entertainment".
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Nehvar on March 17, 2013, 05:39:43 pm
I think this applies here.


Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Tibe on March 17, 2013, 06:36:57 pm
Sometimes being the guy who waits a long time and watches patiently for reviews and gameplay vids does pay off in the long run. Cant imagine acctually spending cash on shit like SimCity 5 and WarZ. Demanding your money back is also a big hassle. Especially when you have to deal with devs like  WarZ had who will blacklist you for telling the truth.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 18, 2013, 10:04:30 am
I know, I repeat myself but... I do like the game and I do not feel sorry for spending some of my money on it (especially by buying from key seller - no regrets here).
But keep raging about a game you most likely haven't played... makes a really strong impression  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Havoco on March 18, 2013, 12:42:43 pm
Yeah, I don't feel bad for buying this game. It has great gameplay even though the release sucked and the bugs it has are irritating but at least they're not game breaking.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Araxiel on March 18, 2013, 01:16:34 pm
It has nice graphics, cool effects. You see your city alive and stuff but thats all about it. AI is frigging retarted, small city sizes and it seems whatever you do, something always goes terribly wrong.

I havent played the game myself but watched couple of lets play videos of different people. This game needs lots of patching.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 18, 2013, 02:36:02 pm
SimCity 2013 may be good at what it does.

It just happens that what it does is not what I want.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Havoco on March 19, 2013, 01:27:39 am
I haven't been able to check my email lately, what do u get for the march 18 EA portfolio they promised?
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 19, 2013, 02:15:56 am
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Our SimCity Mayors are incredibly important to the team at Maxis. We know we messed up and want to sincerely thank you for staying with us. The good news is we have solved all of the major issues and players are really enjoying the game. We’re getting great feedback from our fans and know that many of you are having fun and are exploring this whole new expression of SimCity.

As a small token of our appreciation, we are offering you a free EA PC game download on Origin*. Mayors who have authenticated their copy of SimCity on Origin by 25th March can select a free game through a redemption portal inside the Origin desktop client later this week. We’ll be opening up the redemption portal country-by-country so some of you may see it a little sooner than others. The portal will be live worldwide for everyone to select their game by 22nd March.

We don’t want any of you to miss out your free game, so please note that you must register your copy of SimCity before 26th March 2013 at 06:59am and you must claim your free game by 31st March 2013 at 7:59am. For more information including instructions on how to get your free game and a list of eligible games, please read our FAQ. We’ve included some of the hottest games in the EA portfolio, so pick one and add it to your Origin library on us!

Sincerely,
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Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 19, 2013, 09:30:51 am
List of games that are "takeable":

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    Battlefield 3 (Standard Edition)
    Bejeweled 3
    Dead Space 3 (Standard Edition)
    Mass Effect 3 (Standard Edition)
    Medal of Honor: Warfighter (Standard Edition)
    NFS Most Wanted (Standard Edition)
    Pflanzen gegen Zombies
    SimCity 4 Deluxe Edition
Either Battlefield 3 or NFS MW for me but I haven't fully decided yet.

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Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 19, 2013, 10:00:46 am
Now imagine those same games without EA influencing their development. Would they have been worse ? Better ?
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Vibe on March 19, 2013, 10:05:03 am
http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/03/18/ea-ceo-john-riccitiello-resigns/

Not that it will change how EA operates their games.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 19, 2013, 12:01:31 pm
Now imagine those same games without EA influencing their development. Would they have been worse ? Better ?
It depends, I think. I am not a huge fan of EA but I think that really expensive projects - blockbusters - need a huge financial support from publishers for the developement.
So, lemme ask you in return: Would those games even exist w/o EA backing the studios with all the money?

I wish a lot of games wouldn't be rushed to market like they now often are but I can understand the reasoning behind it.

I guess it's a tradeoff at some point between quality and financial interests.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 19, 2013, 02:56:00 pm
It depends, I think. I am not a huge fan of EA but I think that really expensive projects - blockbusters - need a huge financial support from publishers for the developement.
So, lemme ask you in return: Would those games even exist w/o EA backing the studios with all the money?

I wish a lot of games wouldn't be rushed to market like they now often are but I can understand the reasoning behind it.

I guess it's a tradeoff at some point between quality and financial interests.

Fair point, but nobody needs that much money to make a good game. I doubt a comparison of their development and marketing budgets would contradict me on this. Moreover, excessive marketing funding is mostly there to compensate the weaknesses of a game. Good videogames don't need ads in metro stations to perform well. At least not to perform well amongst an informed consumer base, which is admittedly not what EA is targeting. No doubt many EA titles would be good without the marketing campaigns, though. The sports games ? I doubt that. The budget to make a successful videogame highly depends on who is supposed to buy it. Hence why you also have one man micro budget success stories.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Casimir on March 19, 2013, 03:26:12 pm
really dunno what to get. already got bf3 on console, dunno about buying me3 as ive never played the game before, got sim city 4, nfs games are all the same, bejewled is not a real game, warfighter is terribad, havent plyed dead space 2 yet and plants v zombies looks crap.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Molly on March 19, 2013, 03:31:42 pm
Considering that a AAA-title needs... what? At least 3 years to be gold?

That is a long time you have to pay a 120 men strong company coding/designing the game.

And I am not sure games being successful w/o lots of money. Minecraft is a huge exception. And I hardly can think of any other game that actually went viral w/o being advertised or developed with a low budget. At least as far as I can know... nobody is really giving out numbers on sales anyway.
The informed player base or core-players as they/we are related to lately is a dwindling number as far as I can tell. And I even recognize this on myself already. I like to play something relaxing, slow and just nice to look at even more over the last months, hence why I like SimCity quite a lot :wink:

I decided lately for myself that I am not going into this publisher business anymore when it comes to buying a game. I refused to use Origin for a long time and then I got ME2 for free for some reason I can't remeber right now and installed it...
If I see a game that promises fun and a good time for myself, I gonna get it w/o giving any thought about the publisher. But then again, I am not really buying any CoD/Battlefield/Dead Space-games anyway cuz those are not my type of game (I do own Far Cry 3 though). Guess that makes me not a priority target of major publishers anyway.

really dunno what to get. already got bf3 on console, dunno about buying me3 as ive never played the game before, got sim city 4, nfs games are all the same, bejewled is not a real game, warfighter is terribad, havent plyed dead space 2 yet and plants v zombies looks crap.
I am kinda torn between BF3 which probably won't enjoy all by myself and NFS MW which is, afaik and read, the worst part ever of the series. Dead Space is not my cup of tea anway, Bejeweled is indeed not a game and Warfighter is probably really really bad. So yea, kinda hard to decide.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: [ptx] on March 19, 2013, 04:16:11 pm
Multi-million budgets for games are BS, imo, since most of that goes into marketing anyway.

Minecraft an exception? What? Seriously? Try M&B/Warband ever? Or, well, any number of games that appear on steam under Indie label? Or actually most games not made under E(xtreme)A(ssholes) or Activision?
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Havoco on March 19, 2013, 05:18:45 pm
Hmmm. I was hoping crysis 3 would be on there. Whatever, guess its between mass effect and NFS then. Also, are u able to play mass effect In 1st person? I hate 3rd person side views.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Tibe on March 19, 2013, 05:37:22 pm
Seriuslly. There are bunch of low budget, hardly heard of games that hit it bigtime. Minecraft is just one of those that people can hardly belive that hit it as big as it did.

I think people just hate EA, Activison and Ubisoft just cause of the fact that they published games that basically raped their predecessors older version which gave birth to a broken down newer versions that hardly pleases anyone. But due to the fact it still has the older more awesome and harder worked on versions name on it, they just advertise the shit out of it to attract fans who will give them money for their garbage. Like C&C 4 and NFS:MW(the newer version). Where in return some acctual proper ideas dont get financed and get left in the shadows.

Cause its really not the publishers fault that the game sux. Its still the devs fault mainly. Its the publishers fault when the game aint finished and rushed into stalls with a pretty huge cost. To EAs and Ubisofts credit, atleast their games are always somewhat partially finished, althou the DRM fucks their games hard. Recently its acctually been "Paradox Interactive" thats  been personally bugging me. They basically rushed games like "Sword of the Stars 2" and "Elemental:War of Magic" so fast that these games were hardly even in beta when they were thrown into the stalls fullpriced and advertised as full games. Which was basically throwing the entire devteams infront of a bus. Paradox has really been rushing its games pretty damn fast lately. But to Paradox credit atleast they offered the new elemental(which was improved alot and was playable) for free to those who bought the halfass finished prequel.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Havoco on March 19, 2013, 05:56:24 pm
Meh, got NFS just because I haven't played a racing game since need for speed:hot pursuit 2.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Christo on March 19, 2013, 06:16:03 pm
Like C&C 4

C&C 4

C&C 4

Oh god please no.

I.. I played through the NOD campaign of that.. game. I.. have no words for how bad it is.
For a C&C fan like myself it was.. Heartbreaking.

Let's pretend it doesn't exist at all.

This track is the only good thing that came out of that abomination:

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edit: there is another track like this, called end of all Things which is actually good:
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But compare this to ANY of Klepacki's work and they aren't even close.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Leesin on March 19, 2013, 07:15:34 pm
EA are greedy without a doubt, there are some good games that come out with the EA label on, but there are also a shit ton of games that were meant to be awesome, especially where sequels are concerned, but instead they had their souls ripped out and were just a shinier dumbed down version of their ancient predecessor, leaving the fans of the old game massively dissapointed and the clueless buyers thinking "this game is 'alright' but not that good, I don't understand the hype."

I also enjoy how they have now got into the habit of closing some of their console multiplayer game servers down within 1-2 years of their release, claiming that not enough people play them to warrant the server costs, which is fucking laughable when we're talking about a giant like EA. Though we all know it's because they just want to FORCE people to buy the newer version of that game, even if it is complete dogshit and for some reason never actually took the good bits from the last game and fixed the broken parts, but instead has been re-done all again and ends up with a new mish-mash of good and bad that just looks shinier than the last packaged piece of dogshit.

I seriously try to avoid buying anything with EA's name on it nowadays, they are whats wrong with gaming, especially PC gaming, these fucks point the finger at "pirating" whilst they shit all over the game industry and charge extortionate prices for a game that gets boring after a few hours. Most of the PC games I buy nowadays are all indie games.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Tibe on March 19, 2013, 07:42:05 pm
Ubisoft is the twin brotha of EA nowadays.

Lots of DRM. Blaming their own fails on pirating. Later cant cope with their own fucking DRM servers. Ubisoft is a especially big crybaby when it comes to the matter of piracy. Heard they once said that they would "stop making games completely due to pirating". Also they are especially loud cryiers in the Skidrow site. 

BTW. What will happen to these DRM games in later years when inevitably they will close even their single player servers down? Im left with a completely worthless game by the end, that does not have single nor multi?
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Christo on March 19, 2013, 07:46:19 pm
BTW. What will happen to these DRM games in later years when inevitably they will close even their single player servers down? Im left with a completely worthless game by the end, that does not have single nor multi?

You are forced to buy the next game in the series if you want to keep playing that type of game, and you must stomach the usually bad changes.

It's genius and effective, in a disgustingly greedy economical way.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Kafein on March 20, 2013, 12:10:42 am
You are forced to buy the next game in the series if you want to keep playing that type of game, and you must stomach the usually bad changes.

It's genius and effective, in a disgustingly greedy economical way.

It is as genius and effective as the OPEC increasing petroleum prices one dollar per hour. It may be tough at start, but after a while other countries will have developped alternatives because they were forced to. Always online games that do not specifically require interactions are getting cracked just like all the others. Closing the servers just means buyers will have to pirate the game they bought.
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Vibe on March 20, 2013, 11:58:41 am
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Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Tovi on March 20, 2013, 12:25:23 pm
5 Sim City and always the same game : to build a shiny US city...

Asia, Europa, Latin America still don't exist for US citizens. Wake Up, we are in 2013 and China is going to become the first world power.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Rhekimos on March 20, 2013, 01:13:11 pm
http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=749234

EA CEO fired. :D

Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: [ptx] on March 20, 2013, 02:55:43 pm
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Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Mala on March 20, 2013, 06:02:42 pm
really dunno what to get. already got bf3 on console, dunno about buying me3 as ive never played the game before, got sim city 4, nfs games are all the same, bejewled is not a real game, warfighter is terribad, havent plyed dead space 2 yet and plants v zombies looks crap.

Well thats a hard one.
Mass Effect 3 is not a bad game and the Extended Cut have  fixed a lot of the crap ending but the last mission looks rushed is still quite disappointing for me.
I have hoped for somethinng like, if you have recruited Krogan foottroopers then they they will support you at some point of the battle. Without them it will be a bit harder.
Or maybe some radio messages of STG elements or something like that.
But in the end it did not matter what you have done before, only the digit of your war assets was important but it had no influence on the mission.

Dead Space 3 is not a bad game neither, but is is no match for Dead Space 1 or 2.
It is no survival horror game anymore, now it is a 3rd person shooter with integrated cash shop. (oh, exploits to generate resources and not bying them via the cash shop, counts a cheating at least for EA).
Anyway the story explains the most things and unlike Mass Effect 3 you got a real closure.
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Title: Re: SimCity 5
Post by: Tibe on March 28, 2013, 09:44:53 pm
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/7053-SimCity

Best gamereview ive ever heard. Made me lol hard....

Edit: Man reading more about EA-s Origin after watching this. EA is probably run by biggest moneyhungry shitheads in the gamingindustry....I mean, everybody already knows this...but just wow. Never tought it was this bad.