should really put american election day 2012 :P its not the only country that holds elections ^^
who cares?This.
White house stays black for four more years.YOLO?
White house stays black for four more years.
so Black HUSSEIN Obsama wins four more years as high king of the lizard overlords
terrorists win... for now
FLY THE FLAG of DEFIANCE, keep America FREE!!(click to show/hide)
The Marriage amendment lost in Minnesota (YEAH!) along with the voter id, aka trying to disenfranchise people who typically vote for the Dmeocrat.
Also, Michelle Bachman was re-elected, I blame Malaclypse for that.
The Marriage amendment lost in Minnesota (YEAH!)Meanwhile in russia:
Lol
http://edition.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president#exit-polls
Vote by Race is my favorite :)
Always thought that Black are more racist than White
But thought what Merikka has more atheists :(
On one hand, Obama tried many good things (such as closing guantanamo) but couldn't do them because of the congress.
On the other hand, a government pushing laws by circumventing the congress is being completely antidemocratic. How many wars did the US congress (or senate ? I don't remember) actually declare ?
In the end, I blame the retarded electoral system that no one seems to care to change even though it's terrible.
In the end, I blame the retarded electoral system that no one seems to care to change even though it's terrible.
That is bullshit, I am afraid. Obama signed the NDAA for the fiscal year of 2012. Google it if you don't know what that is. Here's something from wikipedia(click to show/hide)
I will disagree on that. I really dislike the US's healthcare law amendments but Obama had every right to do it. As will republicans have the right to overturn it when the time is right.
Mmh I agree but the guantanamo thing was back in 2008. He signed the paper one day after the elections iirc. Unlimited detention without a right to a legal court following an arrest of anybody by the military sounds bad enough, but torture does even more, or at least is equally trampling any possible human rights bill on earth. These are comparable, but not to the point of saying Obama never intended to stop torture by US agencies (or at least the least discrete part of it).
He had the right to do it by law, but that still doesn't mean it's completely right. I have no idea what the actual and precise content of these amendments are, but I think it should have been accepted by the a priori required majority in congress. The US government already seems not to need the approval of the congress for things as critical as war, and that isn't right.
Now we just need a Mitt Romney skin and have them fight :D
Omg I NEED this modHeh. Sure. I was wrong above, though. This is actually a mod for Medieval 2: Total War. But here it is:
'In the United States, the political system is a very marginal affair. There are two parties, so-called, but they're really factions of the same party, the Business Party. Both represent some range of business interests. In fact, they can change their positions 180 degrees, and nobody even notices. In the 1984 election, for example, there was actually an issue, which often there isn't. The issue was Keynesian growth versus fiscal conservatism. The Republicans were the party of Keynesian growth: big spending, deficits, and so on. The Democrats were the party of fiscal conservatism: watch the money supply, worry about the deficits, et cetera. Now, I didn't see a single comment pointing out that the two parties had completely reversed their traditional positions. Traditionally, the Democrats are the party of Keynesian growth, and the Republicans the party of fiscal conservatism. So doesn't it strike you that something must have happened? Well, actually, it makes sense. Both parties are essentially the same party. The only question is how coalitions of investors have shifted around on tactical issues now and then. As they do, the parties shift to opposite positions, within a narrow spectrum.'
- Noam Chomsky, Interview by Adam Jones, February 20, 1990
Please base your argumentation on specifics in the subject matter, Kafein. No one claimed anything about magical truthfulness, my quote is an argument put forward by another wholly in thread with the political reality of the laws governing campaign financing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United_States) and lobbying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_States) in the United States.
Follow the money trail at opensecrets (http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php).
Please base your argumentation on specifics in the subject matter, Kafein. No one claimed anything about magical truthfulness, my quote is an argument put forward by another wholly in thread with the political reality of the laws governing campaign financing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United_States) and lobbying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_States) in the United States.
Follow the money trail at opensecrets (http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php).