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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Warborn304 on November 05, 2012, 06:22:16 am

Title: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Warborn304 on November 05, 2012, 06:22:16 am
How does it feel to lose 65 tickets of horses and gear to,

Peasants.

Edit:
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1206 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1206)
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Zanze on November 05, 2012, 06:24:14 am
Guerrilla tactics to the max. If only we had kept doing so we could have drained more tickets and armor. However, you guys and your conventional warfare of shield walls and line tactics...

Still hilarious killing coursers/destriers/rounceys and transitional armor while armed with nothing but broken pitchforks and unwashed linen tunics.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 05, 2012, 06:28:16 am
This was the Hosp only versus Some HoC guy right? 130 vs 178 or something like that?

Btw you should always link battles if you going to trash talk. People who just pass by wish to know what is going on.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Digglez on November 05, 2012, 06:54:58 am
lots of fun
1 dead destrier paid for ALL of the peasant gear
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: The_Slim on November 05, 2012, 07:38:01 am
Nothing not normal to be honest, if you have a full roster of peasants you will kill some enemies no matter what gear they are in.  Hospitallers have had probably 10 battles just like this but reversed where Hospitaller peasants take out 50-150 fully geared tickets.  It is just how that game works.

Hospitaller peasants Vs. fully geared enemies:

68 killed
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=873

147 killed
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=871

75 killed
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=737
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on November 05, 2012, 07:44:52 am
Nothing not normal to be honest, if you have a full roster of peasants you will kill some enemies no matter what gear they are in.  Hospitallers have had probably 10 battles just like this but reversed where Hospitaller peasants take out 50-150 fully geared tickets.  It is just how that game works.

Hospitaller peasant battles:

68 killed
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=873

147 killed
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=871

75 killed
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=737

Ya all you need really is some decent weapons, which you can get from dead enemies dont even need armor. I remember one battle a long time ago, i actually think it was hospitaller vs HOC. It was like 150 vs 150 and we (hospitaller) had literally no weapons and no armor. We managed to punch one guy to death and spaniard got his flachon and started killing other people giving us more weapons.  Soon the other side ran out of armor and we wiped them in teh village and went up and started spawn killing them, unfortuntally we had already lost to many tickets and eventually the last few of us died in their spawn and we lost, but very close still.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Aztek on November 05, 2012, 11:41:11 am
Umm, Congrats for killing a few horses!?

But thank you for letting that small group of men through several enemy armies, the goods "0nly" had on him will feed the starving children and maybe.. possible..  buy some of our men some nice new weapons.

But any way.. good fighting to both sides, Sorry I didn't make it! =)
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Garem on November 05, 2012, 03:19:57 pm
Fallen pulled the same on Occitan in the Tadsamesh battle with broken low tier equipment. Hell, we had half as many players too. And they played the match perfectly, it's just how that goes - and why it's important to fight EVERY battle like it matters.

Even peasant suppression costs lives and gear, and it should. Hell, look at what happened at Reyvadin.
Wait, that was a real ba-- oh, my bad. Nevermind.

Just kidding guys! It was a great fight. =D
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Turboflex on November 05, 2012, 03:29:36 pm
well to be fair, it was a hilariously bad map. Huge hill in middle, and another big one on one side so all their cav was basically useless otherwise it prolly woulda been more of a slaughter.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 05, 2012, 04:16:07 pm
Well I went into the battle fully expecting to lose we started with like 20 people (versus the enemy 32) and we ended up with 22 people.  Being down 1/3 of the people in game is a daunting task to overcome no matter what your gear is like.  I was glad we were able to hold out.

Good fight on the peasant side as well, almost able to use having 1/3 more people in game to your advantage.  Wish we could get more mercs signed up for us, guess we'll need to start spamming NA1 more often.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Garem on November 05, 2012, 04:38:46 pm
Well I went into the battle fully expecting to lose we started with like 20 people (versus the enemy 32) and we ended up with 22 people.  Being down 1/3 of the people in game is a daunting task to overcome no matter what your gear is like.  I was glad we were able to hold out.

Good fight on the peasant side as well, almost able to use having 1/3 more people in game to your advantage.  Wish we could get more mercs signed up for us, guess we'll need to start spamming NA1 more often.

Yea, this gets really frustrating very quickly. NA side just doesn't have the number of players to fill rosters like EU does, but we have the same player limits.

Instead of shrinking the roster size to fit the community size I'd hope that we can get over the "who mercs for who" mattering as much as it does now. The community isn't that big, and Strategus in particular is a niche game since it's more about politics and economics than battlefields... much like real warfare back in the day.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 05, 2012, 04:58:47 pm
Yea, this gets really frustrating very quickly. NA side just doesn't have the number of players to fill rosters like EU does, but we have the same player limits.

Instead of shrinking the roster size to fit the community size I'd hope that we can get over the "who mercs for who" mattering as much as it does now. The community isn't that big, and Strategus in particular is a niche game since it's more about politics and economics than battlefields... much like real warfare back in the day.

If more people that were casual players in NA1 or NA2 even knew what strategus was or how to sign up for battles I think you'd have more random pubbies signing up.   But for your average player who's not part of a faction, how would they even know what strategus is, or how to even see the list of battles or sign up? 

I think communication could improve greatly from the devs to the players about strategus and teamwork (how to use the battalion's and move flags).  Just a popup when you join any of the servers explaining in one sentence how to use battalions (Press "P" to join a battalion, hold F1, and release to move that battalion's flagStrategus.c-rpg.net is the multiplayer version of Warband single player.  From c-rpg.net on your main character, click on battles to see a list of upcoming strategus battles (and to sign up))
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Spanish on November 05, 2012, 05:03:40 pm
Yeah that was an amazingly fun battle you brought up Lemmy. Ahh good times and it was sad I killed that guy with my fists and then went on a murdering rampage because the offense wasn't aware of the one peasant dangerously armed. After that people grabbed fallen weapons and the battle turned from peasant slaughter to an actual battle were the offense had to regroup and actually use tactics to overwhelm us. And the map may have been bad for horses but that comes with attacking a village most aren't suitable for Cav and we used that to our advantage just like you guys used the houses for an archer platform it was well done. Sadly I have not been in a fun battle like that this strat.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 05, 2012, 05:13:01 pm
Yeah that was an amazingly fun battle you brought up Lemmy. Ahh good times and it was sad I killed that guy with my fists and then went on a murdering rampage because the offense wasn't aware of the one peasant dangerously armed. After that people grabbed fallen weapons and the battle turned from peasant slaughter to an actual battle were the offense had to regroup and actually use tactics to overwhelm us. And the map may have been bad for horses but that comes with attacking a village most aren't suitable for Cav and we used that to our advantage just like you guys used the houses for an archer platform it was well done. Sadly I have not been in a fun battle like that this strat.

The Teutonic (or maybe it was FCC) raid on Slekz castle was epic two nights ago, felt like we were going to be able to hold out for a while there (damn catapults). 
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Tanken on November 05, 2012, 05:22:57 pm
Yeah Teutonics' raid was great. Wish we had maybe 100 or 200 more troops and it would have been largely more in our favor. Damn raids! Now I know how SWF felt  :| But nonetheless it was a blast. That castle is awesome to defend.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Knute on November 05, 2012, 08:57:01 pm
Yea, this gets really frustrating very quickly. NA side just doesn't have the number of players to fill rosters like EU does, but we have the same player limits.

Instead of shrinking the roster size to fit the community size I'd hope that we can get over the "who mercs for who" mattering as much as it does now. The community isn't that big, and Strategus in particular is a niche game since it's more about politics and economics than battlefields... much like real warfare back in the day.

Yeah there's been quite a few battles that looked like they were going to be good this round but then one side was outnumbered 2:1 or more on the roster so gear or tickets didn't matter. 

It's possible the option to be an anonymous merc or increasing xp for strat battles might help but NA Strategus would just work a lot better in general this round if there were more people playing it.  It's like the siege server, unbalanced with a low population but really good when full.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Gawin on November 05, 2012, 10:04:33 pm
The Teutonic (or maybe it was FCC) raid on Slekz castle was epic two nights ago, felt like we were going to be able to hold out for a while there (damn catapults).
Fallen Engineer squad mate.  :twisted: took down most of first wall and got that little opening! Nice game guys! Really fun battle
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Smoothrich on November 05, 2012, 10:40:13 pm
Yea, this gets really frustrating very quickly. NA side just doesn't have the number of players to fill rosters like EU does, but we have the same player limits.

Instead of shrinking the roster size to fit the community size I'd hope that we can get over the "who mercs for who" mattering as much as it does now. The community isn't that big, and Strategus in particular is a niche game since it's more about politics and economics than battlefields... much like real warfare back in the day.

i;ve always had way too many applicants for battles than slots allowed, except one time.  when hospitallers attacked hero party at 6 AM on a weekday.  we only had a dozen or so people, but of course hospitallers had a full roster.  why?  EU fallen.  get lost nerd
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Garem on November 05, 2012, 11:06:27 pm
i;ve always had way too many applicants for battles than slots allowed, except one time.  when hospitallers attacked hero party at 6 AM on a weekday.  we only had a dozen or so people, but of course hospitallers had a full roster.  why?  EU fallen.  get lost nerd

Indeed. It comes in handy being a good citizen, surely when there is peace but even when there are disagreements between factions. People grow up and realize that this isn't a big community, and reputations grow until they cannot be changed.

Also, good for you in regards to your rosters. Perhaps your time will come, and I sincerely hope that you need not resort to eating crow.

Edit/Add: Furthermore, isn't it unfortunate that anyone on the NA side should rely on players with 120+ pings to fight their battles just as much as you suffered from not doing so?
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Smoothrich on November 05, 2012, 11:18:59 pm
Indeed. It comes in handy being a good citizen, surely when there is peace but even when there are disagreements between factions. People grow up and realize that this isn't a big community, and reputations grow until they cannot be changed.

Also, good for you in regards to your rosters. Perhaps your time will come, and I sincerely hope that you need not resort to eating crow.

Edit/Add: Furthermore, isn't it unfortunate that anyone on the NA side should rely on players with 120+ pings to fight their battles just as much as you suffered from not doing so?

i don't understand most of what you said at all
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Boss_Awesome on November 05, 2012, 11:27:33 pm
i don't understand most of what you said at all

Just because we are badguys doesn't mean we are bad guys. 
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 05, 2012, 11:34:12 pm

Hospitallers are wise enough to make friends, enough friends everywhere that regardless of the time or place or foe, they can usually find people to sign up for them, instead of blindly attacking people due to faction or even nationality. It helps to not be xenophobic. Sure a lot of people don't like them, but there are a lot of people who do so it balances out. *shrugs*


Us Fallen simply want to have fun, and even though we are technically at war with Hospitaller due to that defensive pact of theirs with KUTT, we will still sign up for them if we can spare the time and if it does not directly conflict with our interests (like them attacking us for example  :mrgreen: )  because it is a small community and simply because 'why the hell not?' Battles are pointless and boring if people draw too many lines in the sand and thus force half-full battle rosters, and those that choose to befriend some EU folks to fill in awkward time slots (and vice versa, for EU folks wanting to befriend NA folks for awkward time slots) will have a much easier time.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Smoothrich on November 05, 2012, 11:35:26 pm
Just because we are badguys doesn't mean we are bad guys.

so you want everyone to have reduced roster sizes for NA battles because you are the only faction in this group that can't fill out rosters, due to unpopularity?   i think that is more a diplomacy problem on your part then game balance.  just go back to EU if anything, or leave fallen completely if you want a new NA clan. 
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 05, 2012, 11:38:48 pm
so you want everyone to have reduced roster sizes for NA battles because you are the only faction in this group that can't fill out rosters, due to unpopularity?   i think that is more a diplomacy problem on your part then game balance.  just go back to EU if anything, or leave fallen completely if you want a new NA clan.


Erm, no, that's not what he was saying.  :|


We've only on two occasions that I can think of had too low of a roster, and one of them was due to an awkward time slot for us, and the other was, amusingly enough, us forgetting we had a battle in the first place and signed people up too late  :lol:


EDIT:
The main problem in NA is if a big-name faction attacks an independent/small faction, the small faction no-name suffers from major roster problems as few people bother signing up for them, at least in my eyes. The "headline" battles steal the show in NA and leave the smaller battles that don't make the front news sort of limp along.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Smoothrich on November 05, 2012, 11:46:01 pm
The first thing he said was that it was unfair that NA had the same size roster but not enough players to fill them and that merc diplomacy is a big deal or whatever.  I told him that the demand for battle slots almost always exceeds the cap allowed, unless its at an EU time, when Hospitallers and Fallen both gleefully signed up en masse at a godawful early morning hour in the middle of the week. 

Stunts like that are why people are so enthusiastic for signing up against Hospitallers or Fallen, and most people refuse to sign up for you!

Also if you are implying I am xenophobic, I fight for the UIF or Nords in every battle I can make.  All great clans, cool players, nice leaders, and fun battles.  In fact I enjoy the EU battles way  more than most NA ones, because everyone in NA sucks at the game and has peasant gear and unfun fights, compared to superior EU organization (and carebear economies).  I just don't like the Coalition's side too much  :)
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Boss_Awesome on November 06, 2012, 12:44:50 am
The first thing he said was that it was unfair that NA had the same size roster but not enough players to fill them and that merc diplomacy is a big deal or whatever.  I told him that the demand for battle slots almost always exceeds the cap allowed, unless its at an EU time, when Hospitallers and Fallen both gleefully signed up en masse at a godawful early morning hour in the middle of the week. 

Stunts like that are why people are so enthusiastic for signing up against Hospitallers or Fallen, and most people refuse to sign up for you!

Also if you are implying I am xenophobic, I fight for the UIF or Nords in every battle I can make.  All great clans, cool players, nice leaders, and fun battles.  In fact I enjoy the EU battles way  more than most NA ones, because everyone in NA sucks at the game and has peasant gear and unfun fights, compared to superior EU organization (and carebear economies).  I just don't like the Coalition's side too much  :)

People don't hate us all that much.  Check out this thread.  According to the poll people hate your own clan, Semen Party(semenstorm + hero party), more than they hate us.    http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/what-clan-do-you-hate-mostly-na-(mericaaaa)/105/
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Aderyn on November 06, 2012, 12:53:37 am
People don't hate us all that much.  Check out this thread.  According to the poll people hate your own clan, Semen Party(semenstorm + hero party), more than they hate us.    http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/what-clan-do-you-hate-mostly-na-(mericaaaa)/105/

wait, wheren't we supposed to vote for ourselves?
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 06, 2012, 01:45:48 am
wait, wheren't we supposed to vote for ourselves?


I thought so too, yet some smaller factions still had more votes then we did, psh psh psh


Regardless, just smoothbabe and his loose/affiliated social circle/s for the most part make up the bulk who dislike us, and that hardly concerns me considering that is not the majority. In a wargame, you can't please everyone, and if you did then things would become boring fast.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Garem on November 06, 2012, 02:19:03 am
The first thing he said was that it was unfair that NA had the same size roster but not enough players to fill them and that merc diplomacy is a big deal or whatever.  I told him that the demand for battle slots almost always exceeds the cap allowed, unless its at an EU time, when Hospitallers and Fallen both gleefully signed up en masse at a godawful early morning hour in the middle of the week. 

Stunts like that are why people are so enthusiastic for signing up against Hospitallers or Fallen, and most people refuse to sign up for you!

Also if you are implying I am xenophobic, I fight for the UIF or Nords in every battle I can make.  All great clans, cool players, nice leaders, and fun battles.  In fact I enjoy the EU battles way  more than most NA ones, because everyone in NA sucks at the game and has peasant gear and unfun fights, compared to superior EU organization (and carebear economies).  I just don't like the Coalition's side too much  :)

For what it's worth, what applies to you doesn't apply to everyone. KUTT and Hospis have been struggling, as have smaller factions. We've been doing alright with it, as Tears mentioned.

Beating 20 guys with 50 just isn't as much fun, for either side. And unless you're a real shithead, this game is about having fun. If you are, it's about beating people who don't have a chance because of game mechanics largely beyond their control.

Most people refuse to sign up for Fallen because most people are at war with us.  :D  You can hate us for whatever reason you can contrive. We're outnumbered about [information withheld for security purposes] to one and have no set alliances. Because we're that committed to keeping binary alliances from happening on the NA side a la UIF/anti-UIF. The NA Fallens have been there for two years. What we have today is far, far better. I wish my EU buddies had our opportunity.

I know you'll never listen to me for whatever reason, but for God's sake, don't wish carebearism onto NA. Ever. The bitch of it is that it only takes one side to force the other's hand. Platemail armies aren't worth it.

None of us should ever wish for reducing the game to two sides. NA should never be a place of JUST good guys (us) and bad guys (them). We need to all be independent masters. If not, things will just boil down to wars of attrition, political gridlock will prevent anything interesting or surprising from happening, and less people can get involved in the game because the two "sides" mean that more players are invested in each battle but only a limited number can actually play in them.

Keep NA wild and free, and the UIF can keep their goddamn +3 Heavy Yawshans. So the Knights of Ni can steal all 200k of them again, hahahah.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Keshian on November 06, 2012, 03:01:48 am


Keep NA wild and free, and the UIF can keep their goddamn +3 Heavy Yawshans. So the Knights of Ni can steal all 200k of them again, hahahah.

For all those who want +3 Heavy Yawshans, come to Sargoth - we sell them at 25% discount.  :D :D :D :twisted: :D :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Turboflex on November 06, 2012, 03:20:49 am
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=1255

6pm to 2am night time? seriously?
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Digglez on November 06, 2012, 03:21:26 am
guess their assholes needed a break
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Relit on November 06, 2012, 03:28:22 am
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=1255

6pm to 2am night time? seriously?

Yeah nice work guys. Setting your night time to the prime-time of NA. We even held our attack just to fit into prime-time for you guys instead of attacking at some unOdinly hour.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Keshian on November 06, 2012, 03:35:15 am
Cowards will justify any action that provides some chance of success without risk.  This gives them 5 mor ehours of reinforcement time, its abuse of a feature but not currently bannable.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 06, 2012, 05:11:19 am
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=1255

6pm to 2am night time? seriously?

It's a clan wide conspiracy to fuck over NA out of battles in the prime time. You may have noticed we can field rosters during prime time, but we couldn't even get 30 people to sign up for us last night at 11pm CST.  So why the fuck would we want to push the battle back to 1pm CST?

This would be the result of the fief lord.  I'm assuming it goes by his night time settings?
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Goretooth on November 06, 2012, 06:38:43 am
Cowards will justify any action that provides some chance of success without risk.  This gives them 5 mor ehours of reinforcement time, its abuse of a feature but not currently bannable.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=1246 aren't you guys allies? or just land grabbing banned players fiefs?
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Muki on November 06, 2012, 06:40:51 am
seems like a low blow to me
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Goretooth on November 06, 2012, 06:43:39 am
seems like a low blow to me
http://forum.meleegaming.com/global/strategus-multiaccounting-unban-thread/15/
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Digglez on November 06, 2012, 08:06:48 am
not like they will be coming back anytime soon, so why wouldnt you attack them?  I'd fight for Horseman if they actually had someone to manage the roster, had equipment and it wasnt going to be lopsided
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: BaleOhay on November 06, 2012, 03:52:26 pm
They all got banned. We would be dumb to leave 2 fiefs and a castle open for just anyone to set up shop near our trade lanes. If the pale horse comes back in a form strong enough to properly hold the land we will be happy to give it back to them.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: oprah_winfrey on November 06, 2012, 04:50:34 pm
I see hospitaller and Kutt spamming NA1 looking for mercs to field a roster. Sometimes I will sign up for them in these battles because I like to see equal sided fights, and they don't even bother to sign me up. Just to clarify, I am always around level 27-31, my performance is between 7-9, and I never request any gold.

Also, unless I have a reason to not sign up for a clan/a friend is leading the battle, I will sign up for both sides in the morning and it is never the Hospitaller/Kutt side that accepts me.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 06, 2012, 06:16:09 pm
I see hospitaller and Kutt spamming NA1 looking for mercs to field a roster. Sometimes I will sign up for them in these battles because I like to see equal sided fights, and they don't even bother to sign me up. Just to clarify, I am always around level 27-31, my performance is between 7-9, and I never request any gold.

Also, unless I have a reason to not sign up for a clan/a friend is leading the battle, I will sign up for both sides in the morning and it is never the Hospitaller/Kutt side that accepts me.

If you get accepted by the other side first, then we can no longer accept you.  I'm only around a couple nights and then off a couple nights, but whenever I've looked for mercs in NA1, I would sign up anyone I recognize by name over anyone else.

I imagine that you being hostile and us attacking you may have deterred others, but if we're ever short on mercs, I don't let past grudges into my decision making...if we need mercs, we need mercs.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: oprah_winfrey on November 06, 2012, 06:29:17 pm
If you get accepted by the other side first, then we can no longer accept you.  I'm only around a couple nights and then off a couple nights, but whenever I've looked for mercs in NA1, I would sign up anyone I recognize by name over anyone else.

I am aware of how accepting works, was just pointing out that other clans seem to be more proactive in accepting players, and as such have an easier time of getting mercs.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Turboflex on November 06, 2012, 06:57:27 pm
We pay mercs well, by predetermined formula and with special bonuses! Sign up for us.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Digglez on November 06, 2012, 07:29:50 pm
We pay mercs well, by predetermined formula and with special bonuses! Sign up for us.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: kinngrimm on November 06, 2012, 07:39:55 pm
If more people that were casual players in NA1 or NA2 even knew what strategus was or how to sign up for battles I think you'd have more random pubbies signing up.   But for your average player who's not part of a faction, how would they even know what strategus is, or how to even see the list of battles or sign up?

...
merge crpg website and strategus website completly.
Ladder system and faction system should be at least the same.

If not a complete merge at least a separated tab besides "battles" tab on cRPG website "Strategus", which opens strategus website. It needs to be more closely integrated into cRPG.

But then again, i see so many randomers scratching at rivers or canyons, i think biggest problem is still to give single players a nice game experience within Strategus.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Smoothrich on November 07, 2012, 12:18:23 am
For what it's worth, what applies to you doesn't apply to everyone. KUTT and Hospis have been struggling, as have smaller factions. We've been doing alright with it, as Tears mentioned.

Beating 20 guys with 50 just isn't as much fun, for either side. And unless you're a real shithead, this game is about having fun. If you are, it's about beating people who don't have a chance because of game mechanics largely beyond their control.

Most people refuse to sign up for Fallen because most people are at war with us.  :D  You can hate us for whatever reason you can contrive. We're outnumbered about [information withheld for security purposes] to one and have no set alliances. Because we're that committed to keeping binary alliances from happening on the NA side a la UIF/anti-UIF. The NA Fallens have been there for two years. What we have today is far, far better. I wish my EU buddies had our opportunity.

I know you'll never listen to me for whatever reason, but for God's sake, don't wish carebearism onto NA. Ever. The bitch of it is that it only takes one side to force the other's hand. Platemail armies aren't worth it.

None of us should ever wish for reducing the game to two sides. NA should never be a place of JUST good guys (us) and bad guys (them). We need to all be independent masters. If not, things will just boil down to wars of attrition, political gridlock will prevent anything interesting or surprising from happening, and less people can get involved in the game because the two "sides" mean that more players are invested in each battle but only a limited number can actually play in them.

Keep NA wild and free, and the UIF can keep their goddamn +3 Heavy Yawshans. So the Knights of Ni can steal all 200k of them again, hahahah.

You know I agree with you, I'm the farthest from a carebear.  Every strat faction I've been a leader of just usually happens to get invaded by a mega alliance within the first weeks of Strat, not my fault that people considered LLJK or Hero_Party the most threatening clans on the map (they were always right.)  Northern Empire, Templars, assorted EU clans were usually the culprits.  Some of them are friends now, some are still enemies.  But events like that can end up forming opinions or setting the stage for new conflicts later on.

If you didn't notice, Hero Party is a neutral faction who just got some help from friends when we were against terrible looking odds.  Hero Party did probably the best job I've seen this Strat in defending villages with peasant gear because of all our talented friends mercing, then we beat up Hosps with our counter-attacks.  Our friends moved on to a bigger war, we fought Astralis some, then made peace on friendly terms with everyone to worry about the next wars.

NA community is pretty great when everyone is interested in the game, and this Strat has been the best its been in a while.  I also gained respect for Hospitallers, Astralis, and Chevalieres once I actually talked to their leaders, hung out in their TS, or merced for them in some battles.  Surprising amount of Strategus, and merc recruitment, is public image and friendliness.  I was against Kutt because I didn't like how they treated my friends SWF, then did a karaoke night in their TS and loved the guys and wanted to help some when they were getting beat up.  I merc for FCC because their organization has given NA strat some of the best battles I've ever been in, and they are all pretty cool people.

What it comes down to, is that people will want to merc in your battles, send armies for your wars, or help out with diplomacy if they like, respect, or trust you.  I try to be an honest, chill guy to people, play games or chat with a bunch of Strategus players, and we all just have fun doing things.  If you think allies are drying up, mercs aren't there to be found, or Strategus just seems unfair or stupid, there's usually an easy answer.  Have some fun!  Everything doesn't have to be a contract or a shady deal.  Best alliances are ones made from friendship, not schemes.  Being a douche often ends in getting unfair odds against you instead.  Somewhere in the middle is good diplomacy and the best wars!
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: ednos on November 07, 2012, 03:08:23 am
my friends SWF

I'm not sure if we should "d'awwww" and feel a warmth in our hearts or cower in terror for all the Smoothrich-haters on whose shitlists we have now been put.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Tanken on November 07, 2012, 03:18:42 am
I used to like Smoothrich...then at the beginning of this strat he wasn't my favorite...then I got muted and I hated him more...then he sang Karaoke and now I love him again.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Mae. on November 10, 2012, 12:08:15 am
who doesnt love the smooth?  :wink: :oops: :D
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Kirbyy on November 10, 2012, 12:30:43 am
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How does it feel that you have to attack a retired officer of HoC in strategus simply because he left?  When you gain literally nothing out of attacking him other than the feeling of being 'good', and the fact that you 'got him back' for leaving.  (Not talking about me either lol, I wasn't an officer)
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: bruttus on November 10, 2012, 12:36:33 am
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How does it feel that you have to attack a retired officer of HoC in strategus simply because he left?  When you gain literally nothing out of attacking him other than the feeling of being 'good', and the fact that you 'got him back' for leaving.  (Not talking about me either lol, I wasn't an officer)

not worth of anny HoC members time
if you wanna troll kirby, do it somewhere else, or even better, learn to troll first, then you act
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Kirbyy on November 10, 2012, 03:10:28 am
not worth of anny HoC members time
if you wanna troll kirby, do it somewhere else, or even better, learn to troll first, then you act

In what way am I a troll...?  Please... I'm simply pointing out that you guys should NOT be bragging about anything.

btw...
not worth of anny HoC members time
if you wanna [spell wrong] [Bruttus], do it somewhere else, or even better, learn to [spell correctly & use proper grammar] first, then you act

^ trolling.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Smoothrich on November 10, 2012, 03:21:32 am
no one cares about HoC drama, go back to praising me with adulation, awe, and fear, for i am your god, a god without mercy
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Kirbyy on November 10, 2012, 03:23:55 am
I guess you can be the sand god... look at the strat map lol.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: TurmoilTom on November 10, 2012, 03:31:09 am
Kirby just broke out the spelling and grammar insults...

Shit just got real, motherfuckers.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: bruttus on November 10, 2012, 03:32:35 am
kirby, mine english isn't perfect because english isn't mine native language
so please corect that also, i love to being teacht by a 15y old kid
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Kirbyy on November 10, 2012, 03:35:35 am
kirby, mine english isn't perfect because english isn't mine native language
so please corect that also, i love to being teacht by a 15y old kid


I feel like you insulted yourself...
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: bruttus on November 10, 2012, 03:37:51 am
its called sarcasme
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Kirbyy on November 10, 2012, 03:41:51 am
I'm embarrassed for you  :oops:
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: ForGO_of_Acre on November 10, 2012, 05:09:26 am
Tisk tisk, come now children, have tea in our mighty god smoothrich's honor.
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Weewum on November 10, 2012, 05:11:22 am
Tisk tisk, come now children, have tea in our mighty god smoothrich's honor.
Pagan Scum...
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Kirbyy on November 10, 2012, 05:26:04 am
Will there be crackers?
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: ForGO_of_Acre on November 10, 2012, 05:27:11 am
Lots of crackers! With goat cheese and honey mead..
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Kirbyy on November 10, 2012, 05:49:33 am
Lots of crackers! With goat cheese and honey mead..

Will Smoothrich be there?  Or are we just praising him?
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Smoothrich on November 10, 2012, 06:56:39 am
its too late for pagan feasts, may the pantheon of ye diplomacy gods lay waste to thy first born child of every poster

give us this day our daily mutes
and warn us for our posts
as we have warned others for their posting
and lead us not into +1s
but deliver us from trolling
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: BoneSaw on November 10, 2012, 07:05:24 am
I'm really already bored with all this talk, more retreating!
Title: Re: Dear Knights Hospitaller,
Post by: Kirbyy on November 11, 2012, 06:53:26 am
You'd be retreating if you knew what I knew about HoC in strat. 


Let the witch hunt begin!

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