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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Weewum on November 04, 2012, 11:49:45 pm

Title: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Weewum on November 04, 2012, 11:49:45 pm
Title. I would rather it be  a small delay on heavier weapons, so a long-sword can block 0.05 seconds faster than a Mallet.

Advantages:
Less Maulers/Greatsworders/Uberlongweaponkitingblockers
Better balanced short weapons

Disadvantages:
2h QQ


Edit:Missed a 0 on the delay.
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 04, 2012, 11:50:55 pm
A half a second difference is frigging massive O_o
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Bjord on November 04, 2012, 11:52:33 pm
lol

I got no problem with current system, but this suggestion is just horrible. You want to not only dumb the game down further but also make heavy weapons weaker, which is not only bad for diversity but combat dynamism in general.

In other words: Fuck no.
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Joseph Porta on November 04, 2012, 11:53:06 pm
0,5 seconds?
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Osiris on November 04, 2012, 11:59:32 pm
8 weight is pretty normal for shields. if you use the steel shield you might as well not attack it will take so long to block :P
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Jarlek on November 05, 2012, 12:02:19 am
Quote from: Osiris on November 04, 2012, 11:59:32 pm
8 weight is pretty normal for shields. if you use the steel shield you might as well not attack it will take so long to block :P
Since shields already have a stat (speed rating) for blocking, I guess they wouldn't be affected by this.
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: owens on November 05, 2012, 12:04:40 am
This idea is only fair if more weapons got break block.


I think .05 seconds would be more fair. The fact is everyone can block and fast weapons are very powerful at the moment. A block stun can always bring a long-sword down a notch though.


I like using heavier weapons even heavier 1 handed weapons.

 The fact is if you want us heavy weapon guys to be penalized for realism our damage or a humans inability to block a poleaxe/glaive/big axe/flamberge/billhook/goedendag with a toothpick should be brought into line.


Pick a weapon to get hit with while wearing chain armour irl, long-sword or a voulge??????
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Vibe on November 05, 2012, 08:11:03 am
no fuckin wai
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on November 05, 2012, 08:56:12 am
Quote from: Weewum on November 04, 2012, 11:49:45 pm
Advantages:
Less Maulers/Greatsworders/Uberlongweaponkitingblockers
Better balanced short weapons

Less Maulers? 2hers? Polearmers? sounds like someone is getting killed by every-other weapon class but his own.  :rolleyes:

If someones good at blocking why should they suffer a penalty because their weapon has more weight? sure Realistically it makes sense but this is a GAME doing something like this would totally f**k up the balance.

And Better balanced short weapons? Oh you mean so you can out swing/spam everyone even more with your short sword?

Nice....very nice..
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 05, 2012, 09:24:53 am
Silly idea, but the best thing would be to remove the "stun block" that we agi. guys have to suffer to Str whores.
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Vodner on November 05, 2012, 09:57:56 am
A 0.5 second delay would pretty much guarantee a hit after a feint. There are much better ways of balancing long weapons + high ath vs shorter weapons, such as slightly reducing backpedal speed while attacking, and slightly increasing forward speed while blocking.
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Piok on November 06, 2012, 06:00:08 pm
Oh no spammer paradise..
..next request 120 speed katana ?
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: NuberT on November 06, 2012, 06:23:08 pm
leftswing of many 1h is already pretty much unblockable with long maul..
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Dezilagel on November 06, 2012, 06:33:08 pm
One could say this suggestion...

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Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 06, 2012, 06:33:45 pm
The .5 seconds is too much of a delay, but like shields, manually blocking with melee weapons should haev a speed rating.  Only the lightest weapons should be able to block instantaneously (like 100 shield speed or above).  There should be a speed difference in getting your block up if you have a great maul, versus a longsword.

Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Piok on November 06, 2012, 06:54:31 pm
Blocking with 90 speed bardiche is much more clumsier then with faster weapon..
But some see world from periscope of their 100+ spamblade
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 06, 2012, 06:59:51 pm
Quote from: Piok on November 06, 2012, 06:54:31 pm
Blocking with 90 speed bardiche is much more clumsier then with faster weapon..
But some see world from periscope of their 100+ spamblade

I was under the impression every single manual block was instantaneous, aka the same speed as 100+ speed shields.
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Jarlek on November 06, 2012, 07:15:00 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on November 06, 2012, 06:59:51 pm
I was under the impression every single manual block was instantaneous, aka the same speed as 100+ speed shields.
It is, Piok is just pulling stuff out his arse.
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Piok on November 06, 2012, 07:18:37 pm
Just try it and please don't use longspear..
We have enough of them :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: oprah_winfrey on November 06, 2012, 07:22:20 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on November 06, 2012, 06:59:51 pm
I was under the impression every single manual block was instantaneous, aka the same speed as 100+ speed shields.

It is the same reason that people think that wpf effects their blocking also. It is because of the time it takes for them to complete your attacks that screws up your blocking.
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Piok on November 06, 2012, 08:04:19 pm
something about weapon speed http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons
Title: Re: Blocking Speed Dependent on Weight
Post by: Kafein on November 06, 2012, 08:12:57 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on November 06, 2012, 06:33:45 pm
The .5 seconds is too much of a delay, but like shields, manually blocking with melee weapons should haev a speed rating.  Only the lightest weapons should be able to block instantaneously (like 100 shield speed or above).  There should be a speed difference in getting your block up if you have a great maul, versus a longsword.

This.

As oprah approved (I like when some people don't get the joke), attack speed already matters in "block speed" (mindfvck). It's not always enough, but I would be extremely careful with that setting, as it can ruin combat entirely.