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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Danath on November 04, 2012, 10:44:32 am
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I just can't believe such noobiness actually occured regarding the uber boost of the Maodaio and the nerf of the Danish Greatsword
Take a look at the trades section on the crpg character area, there are literally 30+ offers of peopel selling Danish Greatsword's because of the stupid nerf to it. It was stupid. But not as stupid as what happened to the Maodaio
A masterwork Maodaio now hits for 45c (wtf) and is I believe 97 Speed. This makes it as fast as many one handed weapon, but at a reach advantage. It's so hard trying to fight against it with a danish greatsword it really highlights a terribad decision of whoever is in charge tweaked its stats.
A masterwork great danish is now 44c (OK that was an improvement it was 43c I believe), but nerfed its 92 speed down to 90. Now it's just slow. The second most expensive weapon is now inferior.
Argue a 9 reach advantage of it over the mao if you wish, ultimately its a piss weak advantage over the maodaio when you consider how fast and hard the mao hits.
There is a reason there is 30+ sell offers for Danish Greatswords.
Someone needs to man up and change the stats on the maodaio and danish greatsword. They ruined the Danish Greatsword. I have one, I'm a bit pissed, but I'm more pissed such a Newbie stat change occurred. CRPG is years old now we shouldn't see silly stat changes like this anymore (that goes 70% for the maio 30% for the danish). Boosting the mao and nerfing the danish made it adundantly clear the Danish is now shit compared to other weapons.
Again, there is a reason there is 30+ sell offers for Danish Greatswords. Deny whatever you wish, you royally fucked this stat change up (no offence). I love crpg thanks to all to make it possible.
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Danish Greatsword used to be the best 2h. The best. Now the high end 2h's are more balanced and there isn't one that's absolutely the best of them. So now the former DG users cry. It's normal.
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I just can't believe such noobiness actually occured regarding the uber boost of the Maodaio and the nerf of the Danish Greatsword
Take a look at the trades section on the crpg character area, there are literally 30+ offers of peopel selling Danish Greatsword's because of the stupid nerf to it. It was stupid. But not as stupid as what happened to the Maodaio
A masterwork Maodaio now hits for 45c (wtf) and is I believe 97 Speed. This makes it as fast as many one handed weapon, but at a reach advantage. It's so hard trying to fight against it with a danish greatsword it really highlights a terribad decision of whoever is in charge tweaked its stats.
A masterwork great danish is now 44c (OK that was an improvement it was 43c I believe), but nerfed its 92 speed down to 90. Now it's just slow. The second most expensive weapon is now inferior.
Argue a 9 reach advantage of it over the mao if you wish, ultimately its a piss weak advantage over the maodaio when you consider how fast and hard the mao hits.
There is a reason there is 30+ sell offers for Danish Greatswords.
Someone needs to man up and change the stats on the maodaio and danish greatsword. They ruined the Danish Greatsword. I have one, I'm a bit pissed, but I'm more pissed such a Newbie stat change occurred. CRPG is years old now we shouldn't see silly stat changes like this anymore (that goes 70% for the maio 30% for the danish). Boosting the mao and nerfing the danish made it adundantly clear the Danish is now shit compared to other weapons.
Again, there is a reason there is 30+ sell offers for Danish Greatswords. Deny whatever you wish, you royally fucked this stat change up (no offence). I love crpg thanks to all to make it possible.
Bitch please, did you remember Side Sword which had 32c. Look how much have now. Then tell me again with the straight face that danish was most nerfed.
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This isn't a contest about what else got super nerfed back in xyz.
Danish got nerfed too hard... both damage and speed. It's a dud weapon now not worth buying for any legitimate reason (same with german). That's not arguable.
The Maodaio, my bigger concern, got boosted stupidly high... like hurr durrr high its a killing machine its friggen stupid
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Did it not gain damage? -2 speed but +1 cut and +1 pierce (according to cmp):
They gained some damage.
Bitch please, did you remember Side Sword which had 32c. Look how much have now. Then tell me again with the straight face that danish was most nerfed.
It did not affect them, oh great (kuyak) 2h heroes, they were almost always the ones pulling the strings to get other weapons nerfed because they could not give up 4-6 hp to get a piece of wood and failed to adapt.
also inb4 GTX saying "you really hate greatswords, moncho"
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This isn't a contest about what else got super nerfed back in xyz.
Danish got nerfed too hard... both damage and speed. It's a dud weapon now not worth buying for any legitimate reason (same with german). That's not arguable.
The Maodaio, my bigger concern, got boosted stupidly high... like hurr durrr high its a killing machine its friggen stupid
So why the fuck you named it worst weapon change in history of crapG ? You ought to name it worst weapon change in last damn patch.
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I dunno about Danish nowadays since I retired a while ago, but before I did I tried a MW Miaodao and my god this thing is OP it was amazing to just rush through 20 guys in siege and being able to one hit them all.
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what about awpikes? They got nerfed during my crpg carrier, about 4times btw. Stop QQ!
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Danish = Stab, Miaodao = Can't
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what about bows? they got nerfed about 234546576878656565454567 times in my crpg carrier.StopQQ
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Its Miaodao damnit, not maodaio!
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GS whine! Yeah! Thanks for the nerf! :lol:
Destroy the clone armies!
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If speed rating matters to you for any weapon above 120 effective reach, you should learn to play before complaining.
I agree the miaodao could be a bit spammy even before this change but it was not ppular at all.
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That's great they are trying to balance shit. I don't have any problems with that. But I am asking:
Why the hell the ones balancing don't PLAY this mod? Seriously, how the heck is for example chadz going to know what to nerf and what to boost if he isn't playing (or maybe I am not informed enaugh). A good balancer would be a guy playing daily with every class. Then it could be fair.
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And considering the amount of danish on the market: Danish was always the most offered item on the market, simply because it is the most common 2h.
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And considering the amount of danish on the market: Danish was always the most offered item on the market, simply because it is the most common 2h.
thats dam right!
also: should be happy some things got buffed. patches are usually about nerfing the shit out of everything.
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what about awpikes? They got nerfed during my crpg carrier, about 4times btw. Stop QQ!
That's your own fault!!
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Danish got nerfed too hard... both damage and speed.
Danish damage got buffed, your argument is invalid.
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The lack of 2h lolstab on the miaodao still leaves it underpowered in comparison. It does have some nice stats now, feels just right for a stab-less weapon.
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This isn't a contest about what else got super nerfed back in xyz.
Danish got nerfed too hard... both damage and speed. It's a dud weapon now not worth buying for any legitimate reason (same with german). That's not arguable.
The Maodaio, my bigger concern, got boosted stupidly high... like hurr durrr high its a killing machine its friggen stupid
Bro you so full of shit and wrong info
First of all the Danish has always been huge on the sell/buy list. Everybody including their cat has one. Damage got buffed but the speed got nerfed
Second the Mia's lack of lolstab compensates the fact that its fast and strong. Without the stab a 2h looses half of its charm to be honest. Cant take out cav properly, less attack directions and lolstab is a mighty tool for any 2h. Its easier to fight a guy who uses a Miaodao.
Third I dont see Danish becoming a broken and nerfed to useless weapon. Sofar those who still havent L2P are the ones complainin. And ingame I can tell the danish users are more than a match for me who uses a MW Gsword which has a speed of 94. I quess yea, the patch did sorta made it harder to duel with a danish, but its a very capable weapon still.
AND FORTH. Why the fck did you think everybody including their cat owns a Danish? Cause it was OP like hell.
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Let's clarify something for some herpa derps that have responded.
Miaodao without stab is still OVER POWERED. By a shitload. If you do not understand why then do not respond as you are either too stupid or have not used either weapon properly.
You really have to get a MW Miaodao to know what I am talking about. The thing is just nuts. Just so stupidly nuts it just kills all credibility of whoever applies these weapons tweaks - he has very little idea whats going on himself - clearly. Even the stock Miao is now nuts. It's just a superior 2H end of story, yet it's far lower on the list.
Also to these fools who say Danish is popular etc etc, Yes. THERE IS A REASON THERE ARE NOW 30 DANISH GREATSWORDS FOR SALE MAGICALLY APPEARING OVER NIGHT. It got overly nerfed and there are better weapons. <--- If you are too stupid to understand what this means I will translate: It means they realise their sword is now a dud unfairly, and want a new weapon and hope to sell or trade their now dud sword, away.
Huuuurrrrrrr Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Terribad stat changing has been proven
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Looks like I was mistaken; this is not a game balance thread, it's a whine thread.
No need to continue.